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Invisiblecrissel

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Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything?
    #23472293 - 07/24/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I lately realized that I might not have this friend or these friends.
I would really love to talk about philosophy, purpose in life, challenges in life and other topics that help me to grow.
Sometimes when I a start a conversation about these topics they would just laugh and say it is kind of weird. Their topics are always the same: what did you do today, what did you eat today, how is work, did you buy a new xxxxx... and so on. I am not saying anything wrong with these topics.

I really wish that I could talk to someone seriously and not just about some superficial consumerism shit.

Do you guy have a friend that you can talk about anything and not getting these weird glances?


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23472310 - 07/24/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

One. Been tripping together for 12 years :smile: Crazy stuff
happens when you put some shrooms and booze in us :lol:


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23472319 - 07/24/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Usta have a couple of them

(pretty close with my wife though)


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23472447 - 07/24/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23472988 - 07/24/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No. Every friend that ever promoted themselves to me as this did not hold to it. A man who told me that he was MY BROTHER and would share ANYTHING completely dumped me as a friend about 2 years ago because I refused to agree with him on an intellectual subject. I offered no malice or insult but received much nastiness in return. Then he stopped communicating with me. His loss...


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #23473063 - 07/24/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I do, have one, like that, also have a brother like that.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23473081 - 07/24/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I only have one, we all should have at least one you can spill your guts too, divulge all lol :smile:


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #23473373 - 07/24/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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No. Every friend that ever promoted themselves to me as this did not hold to it. A man who told me that he was MY BROTHER and would share ANYTHING completely dumped me as a friend about 2 years ago because I refused to agree with him on an intellectual subject. I offered no malice or insult but received much nastiness in return. Then he stopped communicating with me. His loss...




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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23473495 - 07/24/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How is the mountain dog walker?


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23473543 - 07/24/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

When I last checked in, well over a year ago, and asked if he wanted me to call him, he said only if I promised to be entertaining. I never called.

The End.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23473935 - 07/24/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There are several people in my vicinity I feel I can open up to about intimate subjects, and others have come and gone. I live with two of them now. While travelling I had brief but deep connections with quite a few people I may never see again. 

The relationships all form different synergies, so maybe I wouldn't open to all of them about anything, but trust and acceptance are the common factors, such that there is little need to hide. I tend to be a recluse though, so they more often reach into my world to pull me out, but it goes both ways.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23473965 - 07/24/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
No. Every friend that ever promoted themselves to me as this did not hold to it. A man who told me that he was MY BROTHER and would share ANYTHING completely dumped me as a friend about 2 years ago because I refused to agree with him on an intellectual subject. I offered no malice or insult but received much nastiness in return. Then he stopped communicating with me. His loss...




*cough* Frozen Terran *cough*




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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #23473988 - 07/24/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

When I went to visit my best friend in California on the anniversary of having my world turned inside-out (see: My Existential Crisis), I was dying on the inside almost the whole time, but had to force a smile and pretend I was doing OK. No way I could open up to him.

The two people (one man and one woman) that supported me the most, both live on the other side of the planet and I have never met them.

Different people fill different roles in our lives.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23474155 - 07/25/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, I have friends that I can confide in every stupid, mortifying thing I have ever done, but they seem to grow fewer as I age.  When I was a little kid and just seemed to gel with people I figured that as I grew older I'd just accumulate more and more people that 'really got me'.  But as the more time elapses, anything could be further than the truth.  It seems that people prefer to live in their personas than their actual his-story or her-story..


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No. Every friend that ever promoted themselves to me as this did not hold to it. A man who told me that he was MY BROTHER and would share ANYTHING completely dumped me as a friend about 2 years ago because I refused to agree with him on an intellectual subject. I offered no malice or insult but received much nastiness in return. Then he stopped communicating with me. His loss...




*cough* Frozen Terran *cough*




I offered to bring some K to some isolated, island of a man that ran hot and, well, icy, with people......as one last chance to experience what I considered a very painless psychedelic state.  He said he would, but couldn't chance the opiate czar testing him and taking away his pain meds.  :ohwell:  Never did meet....

We now have a Ketamine clinic in Portland to treat depression, PTSD, and relieve chronic pain symptoms...... http://www.portlandketamineclinic.com/Ketamine.html

:shrug:


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23474257 - 07/25/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have one friend like this but I feel hurt/abandoned by him right now because he just up and moved to Oregon on me, with only a week's notice.  I know he needs to do what is right for his life and it has nothing to do with me, I just feel lonely now because he was my only real friend that I actually liked, trusted and saw on a regular bases. Now Im back to spending all my time alone.

I want to get a girlfriend but I am afraid girls will think I am weird because I dont have any friends or socialize much and because I am weird.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23474284 - 07/25/16 01:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Own your weirdness, do you just want to be another pinko? Fuck no!  In my personal life, getting over my fear of rejection was one of the most liberating aspects of my life.  Shamelessly hit on the most beautiful women you encounter.  A lot will reject you, but I assure you if you keep pressing it, one of them is feeling lonely too and just wants some attention.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23474469 - 07/25/16 05:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

tis why they have forums like this :cool:


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23474562 - 07/25/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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When I last checked in, well over a year ago, and asked if he wanted me to call him, he said only if I promised to be entertaining. I never called.

The End.




I promise to be more supportive if you promise to be entertaining.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23474666 - 07/25/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I had a great therapist, but she started getting severe memory loss. I had to stop going.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23475508 - 07/25/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you guy have a friend that you can talk about anything and not getting these weird glances?



Unless I can talk about anything with a person, I would not count them as a friend.

One of those 'weird glances' (I get them a lot) automatically discounts a person from being someone I would dedicate any of my time to. It pretty much sends me in the other direction, unless there are mitigating circumstances.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23477949 - 07/26/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Own your weirdness, do you just want to be another pinko? Fuck no!  In my personal life, getting over my fear of rejection was one of the most liberating aspects of my life.  Shamelessly hit on the most beautiful women you encounter.  A lot will reject you, but I assure you if you keep pressing it, one of them is feeling lonely too and just wants some attention.





Yeah, I am beginning to understand this. I have been working on myself emotionally this summer, healing myself and becoming more confident and also letting go of the cultural programming that society has programmed us with like "its bad if you get rejected" or "you can't just go talk to any girl you find attractive".

I haven't approached any girls in a while because I actually feel like I am making so much progress emotionally right now that I am better off continuing to heal/build confidence but eventually I am going to reach a point where my frustration of not having a girlfriend for such a long time (Ive only had two girls in my 32 years) will boil over and I will start approaching girls like im on a mission.


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Edited by Peyote Road (07/26/16 07:51 AM)


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #23490494 - 07/29/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have 2 that I tend to talk about things with that never come up in conversations with other people. 

One is a good buddy that I used to play soccer with from age 8 - 18.  We were never really that close, just good friends because we hung out in the same group most of our lives.  The past couple years since I moved back home we have hung out quite a bit just us two doing things like kayaking/fishing, playing strategy games against each other, hiking, psychedelics, etc. During these times we are able to really pick each others brains and discuss things of said nature.  I am moving in a couple weeks out west and am pretty bummed about not being able to hang out with him regularly.  I should let him know how awesome he is before I move. 

The other person is my girlfriend, which is why I feel so connected with her at times.  A lot of the time it will be while we are laying in bed, lights off, and I am almost going in and out of sleep.  We will just lay there for an hour or two talking about 'life' and how it relates to all sorts of things.  We see the world with very different eyes as she is an artist and I am more of a scientist in the way we look at life.  It is always great to hear a different perspective than mine, I love how much I learn from her every day.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: dodgem]
    #23491379 - 07/30/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

do a thread about that? about your scientific perspective and her artistic perspective? would be very interesting. I went to art school too


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? *DELETED* [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23491730 - 07/30/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23491749 - 07/30/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

how much and how often?


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23491998 - 07/30/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thats personal bro


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    #23492468 - 07/30/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: psychobla] * 1
    #23493052 - 07/30/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You should keep your thoughts and problems to yourself.  Nobody cares, and if they do, they will eventually use their knowledge to punish you for non compliance with their regime.  Tell no one anything you wouldn't want them repeating.  Loose lips sink ships. Today's friend is tomorrow's foe.  Backstabbing bitches abound.



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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23495029 - 07/31/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

usually they don't want me to talk about just "anything"


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23496548 - 07/31/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You should keep your thoughts and problems to yourself.  Nobody cares, and if they do, they will eventually use their knowledge to punish you for non compliance with their regime.  Tell no one anything you wouldn't want them repeating.  Loose lips sink ships. Today's friend is tomorrow's foe.  Backstabbing bitches abound.




So basically it's okay for you to lie to people but others are the backstabbers?


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: sudly]
    #23497328 - 07/31/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You should keep your thoughts and problems to yourself.  Nobody cares, and if they do, they will eventually use their knowledge to punish you for non compliance with their regime.  Tell no one anything you wouldn't want them repeating.  Loose lips sink ships. Today's friend is tomorrow's foe.  Backstabbing bitches abound.




So basically it's okay for you to lie to people but others are the backstabbers?




So, basically, what the fuck?  Do I know you, do you know me?  What the FUCK with this accusation?  It's OK for me to lie to people?

I'd say more, but frankly you are not thinking clearly, or if you think you are you need to read the fucking rules of the forum.

AH.

OK here's the real deal.  You've added nothing but some weird picture of the nervous system, since coming onto the forum.  You are smugly unknowing of anything.  You basically make zero sense, yet are prickly about thinking you do.

Am I "connecting" here?

Fuck.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23497333 - 07/31/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tell no one anything you wouldn't want them repeating.  Loose lips sink ships.




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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23497336 - 07/31/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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usually they don't want me to talk about just "anything"




Start making sense and your shill payoff goes up.  I'd explain it in more detail but years of trying to interpret your babble has me not wanting to even try.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: sudly]
    #23497340 - 07/31/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tell no one anything you wouldn't want them repeating.  Loose lips sink ships.







Nice touch, DB.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23497365 - 08/01/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There is only one person who I have much contact with these days, and that is an ex co-worker of mine. We love talking shit about work and do plenty of venting, but she's one of the very few people who I connect with on an emotional level. We share similar struggles, as we're both pretty lost as far as what we are doing with our lives, or whether it's all even worth it anymore. We don't always agree on everything, but she knows me better than most people and accepts my faults, as I do hers. The mutual respect is there. Other than that, I'm a pretty hardcore loner. I'd say 96% of the time, I'm alone. It's what I've always known though, so it's all good.

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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23497605 - 08/01/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tell no one anything you wouldn't want them repeating.  Loose lips sink ships.







Nice touch, DB.





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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: psychobla]
    #23498764 - 08/01/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Right now though I'm unwilling to open up those that I care about to my problems because I don't think they should have to suffer with me.



I've actually found the opposite of this to be true. Opening up to my friends has brought about a huge amount of bonding since I started doing so. Plus, much merriment and laughter. Opening up to others seems to inspire them to open up to you in return, and in doing so, I find we end up finding a lot of humour in the cruel ironies of life.


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Re: Do you have a friend that you can talk about anything? [Re: crissel]
    #23499892 - 08/01/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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crissel said:
I lately realized that I might not have this friend or these friends.
I would really love to talk about philosophy, purpose in life, ...




will gladly settle for someone with whom spontaneous hysterical laughter happens frequently

but many settle for a pet

discussing "purpose in life" etc. is over rated
you know?... like the period in Woody Allen's career when he stopped making comedies and did all those draggy New York City relationship movies

if some one wants to totally open up
there's holotropic breath therapy
but a steady diet of emotional release is very unbalanced

it all comes back to balance
when we get energetically congested
intimacy can seem like heaven,
too much intimacy and privacy and solitude seem like heaven ...


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