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3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias
#23471017 - 07/23/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello. So far only like 3 tiny shrooms (3-5 mm) (with a red dot in them) appeared. Are there going to be more without damaging the already grown ones, or should I relocate the cake to the fruiting chamber?
The jar is ALMOST fully colonized, there are still some spots where the mycelium is not as strong white.
Edited by jkbgpsz (07/23/16 11:51 PM)
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471179 - 07/24/16 01:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471231 - 07/24/16 02:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just wait for it to be fully colonized and put it into your fruiting chamber.
You should be fine I've had this happen to me before and the cake always is okay.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: psillyshrooms]
#23471235 - 07/24/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, on the photo you can see that the top of it is not colonized, but it seems like it's not going to be, maybe it's dry or something. The rest is OK, but somewhere it seems like as if the white is not so thick, can I still relocate?
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471536 - 07/24/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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is there a dry verm layer on top? if so, is that what istn colonized? because it isnt supposed to be.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: mupetmower]
#23471602 - 07/24/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK, but can I put the cakes into the fruiting chamber if the entire glass (except the top layer) is white, even if there are some parts that are not as thick?
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471669 - 07/24/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dunk/roll that thing and fruit it, they want out, that is why pinning.
Upload photos to shroomery and post as thumbnails so they don't take up a whole page.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: TheChief]
#23471736 - 07/24/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took them out. Plastic box + perlite + water + cakes. I don't have a spray right now, but I am going to buy and be able to spray water in like 24 hours. Is it OK?
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471754 - 07/24/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You got holes in the tub? 1/4 inch holes all 6 sides 2 inches apart?
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: TheChief]
#23471760 - 07/24/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, I have got the holes. I have a problem though! There was a "midge" (some really small fly) in the perlite, and I didn't notice it. Then it was walking around the cake and whatnot. Do you think it contaminated my cake? It wasn't longer than 30 minutes, and there was a single one only.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471783 - 07/24/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, the fly just hanging out probably like the fungus smell. They can't hurt your grow, just pests.
Don't forget to dunk your cake for a few hours in water to hydrate it, then roll in dry vermiculite as casing.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: TheChief]
#23471824 - 07/24/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I got the cakes in a container with perlite and water in it. I sprayed some water in the container. Do you think it's going to work? I hope it will get humid by tomorrow morning (around 14+ hours).
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471827 - 07/24/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Post pictures of your setup. Can't give any suggestions until we see what your dealing with.
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#23471832 - 07/24/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471841 - 07/24/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Problem #1 that I can see: You did not remove the dry verm contam barrier after taking out jars. #2: Did not dunk and roll. #3: Your holes and FC are fucked, you did not follow a proper technique.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23471863 - 07/24/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341
That is a link to SpitballJedi Basics to Growing. What you want to read is the cakes in SGFC part very carefully. Also much other useful growing info in there. These are proven methods, do not stray away from the instructions and follow to a T. Do not change anything or try to experiement until you have a very good understanding of this organisms needs.
You can't expect good results winging it in this hobby, the proper use and knowledge of proven methods is a necessity.
All that being said, your cakes look like they are probably still saveable, if you follow the proper directions I have explained and also given a link to read over. Should you have anymore questions, feel free to ask them.
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jcbowling1985 said: "Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: TheChief]
#23473924 - 07/24/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello.
"The fresh air flows in through the bottom holes and rises up through the damp perlite assisting in evaporation."
Where exactly are the "bottom" holes? I don't assume they are on the bottom, right? Wouldn't perlite just flow out of it?
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23474020 - 07/24/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, the bottom holes are the most important ones, airflow up through the bottom is what keeps the humidity up in your tub. I believe it works by natural evaporation off of the damp perlite? Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
They are only 1/4 inch holes, a few tiny perlite chuncks may fall through at first, once it settles it wont fall out anymore. The holes on the sides and roof would be more for steady fresh air exchange.
You want the holes on ALL 6 sides of the tub, 2 inches apart, in a grid pattern. As many as you can drill like that without messing your tub up (dont drill into corners or other structural areas of the tub). Making a template can help but just going by eye won't hurt. Just try to make sure you keep in the grid dimensions mentioned or you may end up with too little or too many holes.

Try not to get too frustrated drilling a few hundred holes, you don't want to rush and crack your tub in the process. Your cakes will be fine in the other chamber until you get the new one finished.
Don't forget, you need a LOT of perlite in the bottom. 5-7 inches deep is fine.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: TheChief]
#23474580 - 07/25/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, it's going to take a while because I don't have a drill. I will have to heat a metal rod up and use that.
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: TheChief]
#23474591 - 07/25/16 06:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also... how wet should all the perlite be? Just make sure it sucked all the water in?
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23474849 - 07/25/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK. All is good, except... the container might be a little bit too small. Is it going to be a problem?
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Re: 3 tiny shrooms appeared in jar but no other primordias [Re: jkbgpsz]
#23474905 - 07/25/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Get a drill. Don't cut corners, I already stated something along those lines...
You also went and posted another thread, about the same subject. 
Your going to try and heat up a prong, melt each hole like that, hundreds of times over because you don't have a drill? Breathing in all that melted plastic and other shit vs just going to buy or borrow a drill...? Not to mention your holes will be fucked, and not to SGFC spec, again.
If you can't follow simple instructions, just give up. You won't make it in this hobby.
I think I am pretty much done here, helping this poor chap.
Good luck.
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jcbowling1985 said: "Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."
Edited by TheChief (07/25/16 10:01 AM)
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