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300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. * 6
    #23469739 - 07/23/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

LSD apparently has a rather sharp dose curve. I took 200ug of 1P (which was totally indistinguishable from ALD52 in effects) and had a strong but easy trip. I wanted to increase dose from something like 4 grams to 6 grams. "People take ten strips all the time" I told myself "I'm sure this will just be a tad stronger." I was so incredibly wrong.

T+0:00 Probably pure placebo, but I felt as though I began to feel effects almost immediately.

T+0:10 By this point there were already body effects including slight nausea/general weird body feelings, a feeling of vague tiredness, and I became quite cold.

T+1:00 I was riding at a full on +++. Patterning and flowing were common. I became slightly paranoid and afraid. Glowing lattice like golden spiderweb type patterns covered any surface I looked at. My body felt as though it were underwater. I felt almost drunk in a strange way. I couldn't think straight. Tracers or like images under a strobe light begin to following along behind everything I did. Anything that I focused on would be amplified in my mind in ideas and focus and association a million times over. It was as though my entire mind including my vision would get lost in any thought, idea, or sight that I saw. There was a kind of fuzzyness, and my mind felt strangely shattered as if I was only using a part of my mind at any given time. Snot and saliva begins dripping down into my throat causing me to cough further irritating my throat and giving me generally bad body feelings. I probably should have taken allergy medicine before tripping.

T+1:30 +++ I am so far gone that I could no longer act normally or function in any capacity in normal society. The idea of having to deal with another person was frightening. I felt simultaneously stimulated and sedated as if my stimulated mind was fighting against my shattered mental state. Anything I looked at took off into a thousand fantasies. Lego people in a lego land helping each other build things, cartoon mushrooms growing from the ground, people in robes gathered for some sort of ceremony. The burning sensation in my throat turns into a psychedelic pattern that matches the visuals I see.

T+2:00 +++ Everything was moving faster and faster and faster all the time. Unlike my previous trip with 1P, I couldn't seem to control the visuals as well because they were moving too fast and too forcefully and too chaotically. I put on some music, and it sounded good but it was too fast. I wanted to physically reach out and grab the music in my hands out of the air and stretch it out so that it played at a quarter or an eight of its speed.

I thought for sure that by hour 2 I would be fully up, but I was still going up. My body began to feel incredibly strange, and I began to have difficulty telling what was real and what was not.

T+2:30 ++++ Suddenly, the chaos subsides. All the images and fantasies that formed in every surface I looked at that moved faster and faster and rushed into each other, suddenly all of that slowed to a stop. It was as if I had been on a storm at sea, and suddenly in an instant the storm had calmed, and I was sailing on the crystal clear plane of perfectly blue water. The visuals were still just as strong, but instead they simply sat there.

I began to notice a kind of hall of mirrors effect. Everything I did or said or thought was echoed in my mind and in my focus and in my ideas and even in my visuals over and over and over a million times, but it was clearly an echo or a reflection. I could think about a thing and the thing would be echoed in my mind and in my sight and in my whole being a million times over until my whole being was consumed in the reflection. I could almost hear the reflections of my thoughts bouncing off walls in my mind.

When I looked at the patterning on the desktop of my computer, it was like looking at a reflection in a perfectly still pond. I noticed that it too had a hall of mirrors effect. The visual itself began to mirror itself inside of itself, and as it did, the hall of mirrors effect got longer, and longer. I saw the visual I was looking at repeated in itself over and over, further and further into the distance. It rushed on, and on in an instant, out away from me in a hall of mirrors that quickly reached it's crescendo as it reached an infinite distance. This was the moment when everything changed.

When the hall of mirrors effect reached an infinite distance, I suddenly felt as though my entire reality had been forcefully washed away. I don't even know how to describe it properly without resorting to DMT like terms. It felt as though I was no longer seeing through my own eyes, but was seeing through something else entirely. The whole world, reality itself changed somehow. It was as though I was in another dimension looking back at reality. I can't even begin to explain it properly. It felt as though my old reality had been totally replaced by this different, strange reality. It wasn't about the visuals I was getting, it was the very way in which I experience the world which was fundamentally changed. It was like looking at the world, but not through eyes or through biology, but through something totally different. There was this crystal clarity and smoothness as if the limitations of my biological sight had been erased. But it was so much more than that. The way that I existed in the world, the redness of red, the blueness of blue, the way that our vision fits together with the rest of our body, it was all fundamentally different.

I was incredibly excited by this. It was absolutely magnificent. I had never experienced anything like it before. I felt as though my conciousness were somehow disconnected from my body, looking back at it with this magical feeling and clarity.

Where before my body felt discomfort, suddenly there was only clarity. Where my vision had been crowded by waving constantly changing fantasies, suddenly there was this beautiful smoothness, consistency and clarity as if I had broken through into a completely different mode of experiencing reality.  It was like existing in a completely different reality that functioned on completely different rules.

I was incredibly fascinated and excited by this, but the effects continued to increase. Suddenly, there were moments in which I felt legitimately disconnected from my body. Something would happen, I would look just for an instant at a fantasy image in the carpet, and the fantasy image would continue down below the lowest level of my sight, far below, and I would be swept up in it, and I would leave my sight and the whole experience of my physical body behind.

It was as if my vision could continue infinitely in any direction, and I became afraid that I would get swept up in a vision and would never find my way back to my body. When I did get back to my body after being swept up, I felt more and more faint every time, as if I would pass out. The moments of disconnect from my body grew in frequency and in intensity until I was sure that I would not be able to remain in control of my body for much longer. I tried to prepare my house as best I could for when I completely lost contact with reality which I felt was inevitable.

Initially, I was swept into these fantasy realms for much too brief of a period for me to really understand or get a good feeling for what it was like while I was swept up and away from my body. It was initially more like a flash, and then I would be back, but increasingly I was away for longer and longer, and I could get a better and better not quite "look," "look" isn't the right word because it was an experience of neither looking nor thinking, but both looking and thinking.

I locked myself in the bathroom and turned off the lights (a safe place to be if you're planning on losing control over your body for an extended period of time). For a few moments in the dark, there was a fantastic fantasy playland/wonderland all around me in a million plastic colors. Thought and idea and reality merged into one. I saw this kind of kalaedescope maze being filled with different colors, and the maze and the colors penetrated through me, they penetrated through my vision into my mind and my identity and my reality. The visuals took over my being.

Suddenly I was swept away, far away, I no longer could see in the traditional sense, it was like being unconcious, but there was this other thing, this kind of strange feeling of order and patterns and divinity/spirituality. Suddenly I began to have moments in which I was neither conscious nor unconscious. There was this strange third state in which I was still "awake" in the fact that I was still experiencing things. None of my senses existed any longer, there was instead this other kind of existence. I've felt it once before on very high dose mushrooms. It was like existing in a totally different form in a totally different reality. A place of patterns and order and this strange wonderful feeling of magic and power. All of my senses were mixed up, there was no clear line between thought and experience and idea and memory and chaos. Thoughts occurred in my vision, vision occurred on my body. Everything experience was as if cut up into stripes and placed at random over everything else.

Suddenly there were moments in which I came out of that other state into a "more normal" state. It happened in a kind of flash at first. I was totally away from my body, next to some kind of repeating metallic structure seemingly hanging in space. I began to have more flashes such as these, of being somewhere completely different, as if I had been tossed into an actual other world. There was a feeling of space and of structures. At one point, I was in a kind of massive tunnel in space, but it was as if I was riding on a river, and there were structures built on the sides of the tunnel, and I was riding on something in the middle of the tunnel down the tunnel, and it felt as though I was in space and weightless.

Then there was this feeling, this magical feeling, like a kind of signal, I cannot explain it. It was like this wondrous magical signal, like something calling to me, but not as if it were calling to me, but as if it were already there. It was a magical feeling of singularity, and it radiated through my being like sunlight. I'm trying so hard to explain it, but it had an almost spiritual/divine feeling to it. It was the feeling of the experience itself, this underlying magical feeling totally seperate from all of my other senses that had built in intensity. I cannot link the signal to any given sense, it was as if it was its own sense. It was a feeling of uniqueness and one-ness and almost intelligence. Not that the magical feeling was intelligent, but that its existence was somehow unnatural as if created.

There was a kind of sinister aspect to this magical feeling, as if it was partially divine and partially malevolent. It felt beautiful and dangerous. It was so clear and strong and bright, but there was this feeling like it shouldn't exist. There was this feeling like its mere existence was somehow unnatural or sinister and unknowable. I began to wonder what kind of a thing it was. It was the experience itself. The magic was so strong that it was as if being in its presence was radiating energy me. It was like the magic itself or the source of it was calling to me. I cannot explain further than that. I can't even understand it myself. It was as if a brand new qualia had come into existence and that qualia was some kind of unnatural magic. I know this all sounds like DMT talk. I can't understand it myself.

There was this feeling of unity, and I was pulled away again and again to strange sci-fi lands. I couldn't even feel my body when this happened, and I would worry that I would drift away from it too far and never find my way back. My body was in the upper left of my experience and I was diving down deep into the right.

There were planets, and stars, and strange structures, and then that magical feeling, like a black-hole, I was almost orbiting the feeling itself. It was like I was caught in its gravitational pull, but there was this whole simultaneously wondrous and strangely sinister aspect to it. There was something almost intelligent about its existence, like it had been intentionally created, and yet it was the feeling of the experience itself inseparable from the experience. I can't explain.

My consciousness felt as though it were constantly being sliced up, pulled higher, stretched out, lowered, rearranged, changed, reoriented, and so on and so forth.

T+3:00-4:00 I was utterly lost in another reality as described above.

T+4:00 I began to come back to my body more often, and realized that the danger of passing out was over. My body no longer felt faint. The moments when I was completely away from my body were subsiding, and the ones that remained were easier to deal with. I was still tripping at atleast a ++++. The ordinary rules of reality no longer seemed to apply. I existed in multiple realities at once, and each of them seemed valid.

There was a great feeling of sacredness and holiness, a feeling of almost divine power and importance. Time was heavily distorted. There were moments when I did not know if I had already done something, if I was about to do something, or if I was in the middle of doing something. When I walked back and forth through my place, it was as if I could feel myself passing by the spots that I walked both in the past and in the future. There was this magical feeling like I could almost watch myself take actions in both the past and the future, but I could only affect the present.

There was this feeling of monumental importance and a thousand connections to everything I did.

I was amazed that I was still alive and conscious and had not been arrested, and I became paranoid. Had the neighbors heard me in the bathroom? What if my body had been loud when I was away from it? What if everyone knew? What if they had already called the cops on me and it was only a matter of time? How would I conceivably manage to deal with the cops in such a state?

T+5:00-6:00 There are moments when I felt as though I was coming down, but soon I was nearly back to where I was in the bathroom. I lay down on the bed and watch the ceiling turn into a unified pattern.

Suddenly, an old delusion from past psychedelic use reoccurs to me. (This is a repeating theme in some of my trips). I was staring at the ceiling in bed watching the ceiling dissolve into a fractal. It starts with me getting the feeling that I've done all this before, but it's a specific feeling. I become quite convinced that I've had an experience exactly like this before when I was an infant. I begin to feel quite confident about it, that when I was perhaps 2 or 3, I would stare at the ceiling and experience the same effect. The more I think about it, the more convinced I grow that when I was a child I was able to stare at the ceiling for long enough for this exact thing to happen.

Then it turns in the direction it always turns in. I become paranoid that I was secretly insane as a child and everyone hid it from me. There is no rational basis for this belief, and it is a recurring delusional theme I have on psychedelics. The moment I see it turn in this direction, I know instantly that it's the same old delusion I've had before. I grow angry at this, but I can't help but shake the feeling that I'm absolutely positive that when I was 2-3 I could stare at the ceiling and have this exact same thing happen.

This unshakable feeling disturbs me greatly, and I get up and begin to pace back and forth and think about my life.

T+7:00 I retread my own steps over and over wandering around my apartment, and thinking, and trying to wrap my mind around what had happened. Every step is filled with this kind of grim sad importance. It had the somber contemplative mood of a funeral complete with the vague undertones of death. Sometimes the feeling would overwhelm me, and this incredible feeling of importance and magic would wash over me, and in my mind I would hear bits and pieces like "our father who art in heaven, blessed be thy name" "thy kingdom come, thy will be done" just fragments as if rising out of mud at moments of overwhelming magic.

There was a kind of sad feeling, as if I was unable to break free from retracing my steps in my apartment, but it was about more than that. I felt unable to break free from retracing the steps in my life. My life felt just like what I was experiencing, where I could look forward and see the steps that I would tread, but I was powerless to change it. I went back and forth thinking "how many times am I doomed to do walk these same steps again? How many times am I doomed to follow the same old paths in my life, paths leading nowhere?"

T+8:00-11:00 Effects very gradually diminished to a high ++ low +++ by hour 11. Around hour 11 I finally felt well enough to venture outside onto my patio. The moon's light ran in a straight line across my glasses and formed a kind of crooked cross in the night sky. Staring at it was like staring at something divine. Everything was filled with this calmness and slight sadness and this kind of concrete reality feeling. My mind began to come back together, and I began to think more normally.

T+12:00-16:00 There was some residual stimulation and occasional visuals.




There was absolutely zero difference in effects for me between ALD52 and 1P LSD. The only difference was strength. This is a drug, far and away above all other drugs, that you would instantly know if there was even the slightest difference. There was none. These drugs have the same effect. In fact, that effect is so unique, so defined by its uniqueness, that it is lunacy to suggest that these are different drugs. And by extension, if ALD52 and 1P are the same drug, then that drug must be LSD. This is such an incredibly obviously unique drug that it is borderline insulting for someone to suggest that these are different drugs. No drugs are THIS similar, not in THESE ways. This was completely identical reaction including identical special uniqueness.

Not only were there moments completely away from my body in some kind of alternate reality, not only was the experience filled with a kind of strange wondrous yet somehow unnatural and sinister magic, but there were moments in which I was completely away from anything approaching normal reality. There were moments in which all of my senses were mixed up with each other in a totally different kind of existence. I've felt a state like that only once before, on very high dose mushrooms. I did not think I would feel it again in my lifetime.

The signal bothers me. It was like pure magic, the magic that made up the experience itself, and it was as if it had been intentionally created. It almost had a kind of vaguely sinister or malevolent feeling. It's implications bother me. The implications of my consciousness becoming completely disconnected from my body bother me. This trip left me rethinking and questioning my fundamental beliefs. It also took me into states that I was not aware existed for extended periods of time.

There is a kind of magic in LSD that is not found in anything else. I can see now why people have been trying to find it since the invention of LSD. This drug has effects that are clearly neither serotonin based nor dopamine based. There is this other kind of magical almost perhaps "supernatural" effect that is unlike any other drug I have ever taken. It is totally unique. In fact, it is defined specifically by its uniqueness. It is its uniqueness.

There is some kind of strange, unnatural action in this drug. I cannot think of another thing that I have ever done that is anything like it, except perhaps extremely high dose mushrooms.

This (LSD) is quite possibly the greatest and most important drug of all time.


Edited by nooneman (07/23/16 04:01 PM)


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #23469818 - 07/23/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Outstanding reports, so much fun to read! I'll probably reading it again later for fun, lol.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman]
    #23469834 - 07/23/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

another excellent write-up, buddy


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #23469897 - 07/23/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Absolutely brilliant write up, dude. :congrats:

This omnipresent sense of malevolence and divine energy you experienced - what do you think it could have possibly been? You mentioned traveling through a tunnel, if i read correctly, over water to get to it, no?

Various levels of Hades come to mind when reading that... perhaps one of the five rivers or even the Elysium Fields


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: 404]
    #23469942 - 07/23/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the comments guys! Glad you liked it :sunny:

I have absolutely no idea. It's very hard to even put into words. I've never experienced anything like it before.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman]
    #23472471 - 07/24/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just wanted to update that I'm quite sure now everything I experienced was just hallucinations caused by my brain, but man that was some pretty out there stuff. I'm sure there was nothing truly supernatural or otherworldly about it, but it was a very deep experience. I'm not used to going that far out. Truly a wonderful drug.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #23472886 - 07/24/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Damn......this is one of the best trip reports I've ever read! Never tried ALD-52, but 300 mics is a super strong dose of LSD, and sent me on rides like you described. 200 mics has as well. Incredible substances.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: Dark_Star] * 1
    #23473045 - 07/24/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I am completely perplexed by your opening sentence:

"LSD apparently has a rather sharp dose curve. I took 200ug of 1P (which was totally indistinguishable from ALD52 in effects) and had a strong but easy trip. I wanted to increase dose from something like 4 grams to 6 grams. "People take ten strips all the time" I told myself "I'm sure this will just be a tad stronger." I was so incredibly wrong."

It mentions THREE drugs - LSD, 1P-LSD and ALD52.  Then it mentions an utterly nonsensical dosage of 4 - 6 GRAMS with respect to those 3 chemicals.  Are we now talking 4 - 6 grams of mushrooms?  WTF did you take to get so spun?

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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23473123 - 07/24/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm sorry, I meant that I was looking to increase my trip only slightly, as if on mushrooms the difference between 4 grams of mushrooms and 6 grams of mushrooms. That was roughly the equivalent amount of how much stronger I wanted the trip to be. Instead, I found it more like jumping from 4 grams of mushrooms to 10 grams of mushrooms in terms of effects.

1P and ALD52 are both prodrugs for LSD. There is some debate about whether or not they have effects of their own, but having tried 1P and ALD52, I found zero difference between them. This would imply that both are pure prodrugs for LSD. As a result, 1P=ALD52=LSD in terms of effects because 1P and ALD52 are prodrugs of LSD. Thus they also share the dose curve of LSD.

LSD is apparently quite strong at 300ug, which I had no idea about. I always hear about people taking 10 strips of LSD, which some people claim to be upwards of 1mg LSD, so I thought 300ug wouldn't be THAT much stronger than 200ug, but I was very wrong.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman]
    #23474452 - 07/25/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

OK...so that trip report pertains to a presumptive dose of 300ug of LSD equivalent.  Got it.

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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23477608 - 07/26/16 03:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice report. If you see that tunnel again you should go through it


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23479887 - 07/26/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks man!

I just want to say I'm really glad all you guys liked it. I've been trying for a while to write better trip reports, and so it's really great to know that people are enjoying this one (and maybe I'm improving!)

So thanks guys. You guys all rock :sunny:


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman]
    #23494072 - 07/30/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome report msn, I wouldn't write off all three of those drugs as one and the same though. They may be for you personally, but not necessarily for other people. Every drug effects every person differently. For example when it comes to me I go to a very strange alternate reality when I do shrooms that is almost impossible to describe and I have yet to find anyone who has described having even a similar experience. I tried LSA one night which as you probably know is supposed to be a sort of natural LSD with a few of it's own little quirks, but instead of having an LSD like experience like so many people describe having on it I had a trip extremely similar to mushrooms except for a good amount more intense. I even started to clear as day taste mushrooms. There's always this theme of deja vu where I know for a fact I have experienced that place, but I believe it's not something I experienced while alive, it's in between lives. Yet I can do over 1,000ug of LSD and not have anywhere close to the sort of experience you described, my LSD trips never feel spiritual at all.


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    #23494381 - 07/31/16 01:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Glad you enjoyed it! :sunny:


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman]
    #23495415 - 07/31/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice  trip report


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: dodmtdolsd] * 1
    #23499042 - 08/01/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Another excellent report, and a superb experience. I'm so glad you felt reasonably well, even during the harder parts. Trips this strong can easily induce panics, mania, hysteria, and/or hyperventilation-like effects. So, good you pulled through!

Of course I especially liked your description of the both divine and malevolent signal. Even calling it a signal is a brilliant stroke in the history of trip reporting IMO.

Could it perhaps be called "god"? I've had similar feelings, although I've never been so close as you describe, but the thing I took away from it was that people often like to believe their god is good, but that really, god can be so good that if your eye to eye it is totally terrifying. Not terrifying in a sith-lord way (for lack of words), but in a way that says ultimate goodness is a scary and almost repelling thing. It goes beyond life and death and can obliterate the individual.

I also like the idea that god is both good and naughty, and that creation is one of his better jokes, a wild prank on the void. Something very similar to your signal whispered this into my ear and I had a good laugh about it feeling one with all...


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: Hanz]
    #23499448 - 08/01/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you so much again, I'm really happy you liked both of my reports!

I still have a hard time figuring out certain parts of the experience because I have to sort out delusions and weird trippy thinking from reality. At the time, I don't know, there was a kind of order, like some kind of grand order, but it was like it was right next to me or in front of me, like something that was calling to me. It's difficult even to explain, and at the time my mind was pretty deranged, so I have to sort out how I felt about it then from how it really was.

At the time, it felt like an artificial signal that was almost calling me from across the universe, except it wasn't across the universe, it was right next to me. That's a very DMT like description/thing in a way, and like with DMT it's hard to really deeply pick apart what I think about that.

Do I think it was a hallucination generated by my brain? Absolutely, but at the time it felt very otherworldly and my mind was deranged enough to believe in it on some level. Do I believe in it now? No, but at the time it was a very convincing hallucination, but again my mind was quite heavily deranged.

It was however a terribly beautiful and terrifically fantastic sort of hallucinatory experience. Really unique.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #23500839 - 08/02/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps the distinction is not one between mere hallucination on the one hand versus actual objective reality on the other.

I like to avoid this dichotomy by saying to myself that the point is that it was an experience. Real or not, it was something I experienced. And as such it has a certain meaning to me. I can experience some objective truth, like climbing a real and actual mountain. I can also experience more fantastic things, like understanding in what sense a legend or fairy tale applies to my own life.

The central concept here is meaning. We humans give meaning to all kinds of things, real or not. It is what makes us human. And the meaning we give to a psychedelic experience is what makes it important. Not whether it is actually, physically true or not.

I mean, sometimes even the meanings we give to abject falsehoods can be very important in shaping our lives. So why not admit that it can be possible, and even important to give meaning to a powerful and very distinct lsd induced hallucination?

It's the meaning that you take with you for the rest of your life. And your life is very very real.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: nooneman]
    #23610245 - 09/04/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

took me a long time to begin searching for reports on ALD52

BAM!
this is a good one, you are one hell of a writer and your natural person-ness accommodates the reader really easily.

the observations/hallucinations are complex and meaningful.

thanks for taking the time to do this.

I agree that there is a bit of confusion in the first paragraph - but fortunately the bold title about 300ug ALD52 irons out the pervading tangle that declares 1p & ald & lsd are all versions of one unique thing.


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Re: 300ug ALD52: My hardest trip, left me rethinking the nature of reality. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23611539 - 09/04/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it :thumbup:


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