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Rhizohunter
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Bill_Oreilly said: I have come to find that psychedelics do not really cause this phenomenon
The culprit?
Heavy marijuana use
Marijuana will put you there, as will many other psychoactive compounds, but it is more real than just that. I experience it with no drugs at all.
Maybe I am more fucked than you, it is a possibility, but highly unlikely after hearing about your experiences bill.
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Psychosis is not understood at all in the medical profession from what can gather. I used to do normal amphetamines years ago and had some quite unusual experiences that were different to the normal amphetamine hallucinations. I used to hear voices; overhearing conversations of people who simply were not there and occasionally it would be very real and not like a hallucination at all.
I think genuine psychic mediums could be categorised under psychosis, and to them it is maybe a gift where as to someone having a hard time with a psychosis might see it as a curse.
Iv'e also experienced a kind of psychosis for a while a couple of years ago which to me had the effect of a kind of enlightenment and step up in intellect. Iv'e since gone a lot more back to my old self, yet with a bit of wisdom gained from that experience.
The doctors don't know what they are talking about in regards to understanding the workings of the mind and so it's down to everyday people to figure out what it really all is.
I think we are all connected on a level and psychic communication is something real but somewhat rare. Iv'e experienced my own psychic abilities a few times but it's something that only seems to happen when things are just 'right' for it.
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Im saying that if you didnt do a drug in your life, you wouldnt be going through this.
Atleast i wouldnt.
I believe this is a drug induced psychosis.
Psychosis is usually triggered by drugs thus spilling over into sober reality until the person takes a major break from all chemicals or anti psychs get involved
Ive been going through this for years and it only happens because of drugs. That doesnt mean you need to be high to experience psychosis.
That said, it doesnt make it any less or more real
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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You need to take better care of yourself. You will get better.
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Re: explain this logically [Re: Shiithead]
#23469305 - 07/23/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It depends on the persons mental makeup
I bet BHO triggers psychosis in me more than meth does...unless no sleep was involved
I dont do meth tho..just adderall sometimes. Never got 1 synced thought on adderall
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Anyone can retrain their brain. Or retrain someone else's for that matter. It takes work though.
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Is it consistent?
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Rhizohunter said: at the time I had the belief that I am getting millions of dollars
It's too bad this one wasn't true...
What are some more examples?
I'm sure you have plenty of thoughts that aren't announced seconds later...is it selective?
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Rhizohunter...it happens all the time to me
Today i had a psychotic episode where my train of thought ended and I thought i came up with 2 words that can explain everything
Those 2 words are "spin cycles"
Then i started making all these connections with electrons and spin resonances and everything in the universe made sense and i felt like our future existed on Saturn
This is what my daily life is like.
Fucking delusions.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Oh ya rizo i also had the belief i was going to be rich.
I thought i was going to recieve a credit card made of gold that i could swipe until i die, never having to pay for anything again
It never happened and i realized i am already rich.
That's called "defeating a delusion"
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23307768
Are they all things like this?? Because that's just kind of silly stuff...
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Well Bill, I agree and disagree. I agree that what happened to me could have been triggered by drugs, but I also know that my grandfather was schizophrenic and he experiences the same thing I do without drugs.
He does not do drugs, but he has gone through very similar things where he believed things and heard voices. I believe that this is in your genes. They say it was triggered by drugs, but that is just an idea.
Chances are that I actually was predestined for this already. My grandfather before he died last year was receiving messages from a higher source and he believed he was a healer. At 78 years old, even after taking all his meds, he got hooked into this alternate reality.
He brought me into his room to speak with me. He said I was possessed by a demon and started speaking tongues. When he did this I allowed the entities I speak with to translate. What came through was "I am the lord god almighty and I command these demons out of you". I am very connected with this other world, so I laughed. I then said to my grandfather "do not believe everything they tell you, because they lie".
He looks at me and says "I understand" and we walked out of that room more connected with each other than anyone else in the family.
We are not crazy, we are different. There are things in this world which everyone turns a blind eye to because they are unaware of this other phase of consciousness that seems to manifest in us.
Maybe everything I said is bullshit, I really don't know, but for me it was a very meaningful experience that few could understand.
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Re: explain this logically [Re: Apostle]
#23469338 - 07/23/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Apostle said: Actually , i do believe the mentally ill are more in touch with the 4th dimension..
Are you mentally ill?
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Bill_Oreilly said: Oh ya rizo i also had the belief i was going to be rich.
I thought i was going to recieve a credit card made of gold that i could swipe until i die, never having to pay for anything again
It never happened and i realized i am already rich.
That's called "defeating a delusion"
Yes, we all have similar delusions, I just don't look at one piece of the puzzle and throw out everything else I have experienced. You shouldn't either.
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Re: explain this logically [Re: koods]
#23469354 - 07/23/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Apostle said: Actually , i do believe the mentally ill are more in touch with the 4th dimension..
Are you mentally ill?
Most would say yes.
I'll have an official diagnosis soon.
I'm still torn on whether or not i have a legitimate mental illness but there is definitely some behavioral disorder at play.
Lets say that i AM mentally ill, i think my self-awareness and healthy skepticism makes me the less dangerous kind.
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Re: explain this logically [Re: Apostle]
#23469372 - 07/23/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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My last doctor said I have a personality disorder. Probably why I believe I am god.
I see a lot of people who believe they are god on here, but not one of them has a good story about how they became god.
Oh boy do I have the story.
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Re: explain this logically [Re: Apostle]
#23469377 - 07/23/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Apostle said:
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koods said:
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Apostle said: Actually , i do believe the mentally ill are more in touch with the 4th dimension..
Are you mentally ill?
Most would say yes.
I'll have an official diagnosis soon.
I'm still torn on whether or not i have a legitimate mental illness but there is definitely some behavioral disorder at play.
Lets say that i AM mentally ill, i think my self-awareness and healthy skepticism makes me the less dangerous kind.
You are a lot more level headed and funny off the heroin.
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Rhizohunter said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: Oh ya rizo i also had the belief i was going to be rich.
I thought i was going to recieve a credit card made of gold that i could swipe until i die, never having to pay for anything again
It never happened and i realized i am already rich.
That's called "defeating a delusion"
Yes, we all have similar delusions, I just don't look at one piece of the puzzle and throw out everything else I have experienced. You shouldn't either.
its impossible to throw out these delusions.
This is what happens though...further along your mind will start eliminating the useless delusions(like winning money) and will keep the important stuff. Then those will even be further strained until you are left with "delusions" that actually make perfect sense. Its amazing, actually.
and of course not all schizo is from drugs..but i like to think most are
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Yeah bill, you get it, but the ones you are left with aren't delusions anymore. You have weighed out all the possibilities and are left with only rationalities
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Re: explain this logically [Re: koods]
#23469397 - 07/23/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You are a lot more level headed and funny off the heroin.
Appreciate that.
Heroin is the love of my life though and i really mean that on a romantic level. I doubt we'll stay apart for long and i'm ok with that.
She'll be nicer to me this time around, i'm sure of it.
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Rhizohunter said: Yeah bill, you get it, but the ones you are left with aren't delusions anymore. You have weighed out all the possibilities and are left with only rationalities
Exactly
I believe psychosis is a gift from God and that anyone who is luckily enough to experience it in all its glory, must have given up something to get it. For example a psychotic is more likely to have lost his/her mother at a young age or something like that. A sacrifice.
Thats just a developing theory of mine, though
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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