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Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues')
    #23468887 - 07/23/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do you guys ever experience speaking in tongues after tripping?

I tend to do it a lot, though almost exclusively with DMT and when I'm alone. It just flows out so easily, it even sounds like some actual ancient or dare I say alien language. There's construction in there, almost like there's grammar and a vocabulary involved. There are recurring sounds and words. I think the sounds often mirror the stuff I've felt during the trip, not so much in the meaning of the 'words' but in the way they sound. I specifically noticed this when my trip took a darker turn, there were a lot of K's, R's, T's, S' and U's in there. Almost like Uruk-Hai or something.

I actually recorded some of it last time. I'm looking into a somewhat anonymous way to upload it.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604]
    #23468896 - 07/23/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

same with me, it sounds fucking alien and only happens on heroic pharmahuasca or psilohuasca trips.

its like an incredible urge that i cannot control but it happens for me just after the peak usually. But its like strange broken syllables that i put together so flowingly.
but everytime it happens to me i seriously wonder if im an alien or some shit cuz it doesnt seem like a normal thing people do.

but yea imo it sounds incredibly alien and the higher dose im on the more flowing and strange and aesthetic the "speaking in tongues" is


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604] * 1
    #23468909 - 07/23/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Until I upload the actual soundfile, here's my try at a transcription. I tried transcribing as best as I could, but it's weird stuff. A lot of the sounds are very different to the language(s) I speak, so it's hard to put into the alphabet we know.

"Ishtanan nanang gwainana
Honatawan nainanga
Kingar statangwa
Inana pangwa stangleinene
Kiwana pangein nanaste

Uhununu iwantanteinene
Ilanana kwaaar
Ilana kwaarnene

Intenkwa nonogeine stenge nitwan
Auwankande tingwande stongo

Urunkwa! Urunkwa! Urrrrunkwa, kastangwoooo.
Nontwarech!

Eleneneintinge. Eleneneintinge."


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE]
    #23468926 - 07/23/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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same with me, it sounds fucking alien and only happens on heroic pharmahuasca or psilohuasca trips.

its like an incredible urge that i cannot control but it happens for me just after the peak usually. But its like strange broken syllables that i put together so flowingly.
but everytime it happens to me i seriously wonder if im an alien or some shit cuz it doesnt seem like a normal thing people do.

but yea imo it sounds incredibly alien and the higher dose im on the more flowing and strange and aesthetic the "speaking in tongues" is




Exactly! It just comes pouring out. I can stop it, sure, but it feels great to do it. I don't feel like stopping, don't feel like I have a reason to. With all due respect to what other people believe, I don't want to go into spiritual mumbo jumbo territory, but it feels like I'm actually 'channeling' something.

But the more I sober up, the harder and less appealing it becomes to do it. It starts to feel forced, like actively trying to find sounds to make instead of just letting it happen naturally. I also start to feel kind of stupid and wonder about my sanity, babbling nonsense like that.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604]
    #23468928 - 07/23/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Im interested to see if we all speak in the same style of tongues on heavy psychedelics. It feels so natural and impulsive that it must sound similar in people.
The sounds and "words" almost seem like some occult spell or something and it weird because i feel like i can navigate and control the visions with my tongyes speaking. Like there is a link between the things im saying and the things im seeing.

On time on amt the tongues was a spell that exploded me instantly into a level 5 trip


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604] * 2
    #23468931 - 07/23/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely man, I start beat boxing in some alien language.. it's awesome but only happens on DMT yeah and just flows naturally.

We aliens or some shit?


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE]
    #23468932 - 07/23/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly it sounds so shitty when u force it thats why i never do and i literally trip and hold it back to make sure that when i do it it is 100% impusle and primal


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23468933 - 07/23/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think we aliens


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23468978 - 07/23/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, it's usually after vaped DMT that I do it. During the actual trip I'm waaaay too occupied and too far out there to speak or make sounds. Not as much with changa, either. Which is weird because the caapi in there is enough to make me feel fucked. But since my changa feels like poison and gives horrible, flu-like hangovers I tend to not use it much anymore.

It always happens after the trip, when I still experience some after effects like the afterglow and the zaps, but the visions are long gone. I do feel like I control at least something with the speech, yeah, though it's hard to pinpoint what exactly. I'd say it's something like 'mood', 'temper' or some aspect of 'feeling', but  in the emotional sense.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23468986 - 07/23/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I think we aliens




Well, we are. Kind of. At least to some folks far out there in the cosmos.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604]
    #23468989 - 07/23/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Man. Post the sound file.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Moabfighter] * 1
    #23468999 - 07/23/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

ive never had it with smoked dmt. strange. only oral experiences


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23469029 - 07/23/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, here it is. Not gonna lie, I sound fucked. Like, proper fucked. I kind of cringe hearing myself like that.

http://www45.zippyshare.com/v/k0uwdkDM/file.html


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604] * 1
    #23469100 - 07/23/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Well, here it is. Not gonna lie, I sound fucked. Like, proper fucked. I kind of cringe hearing myself like that.

http://www45.zippyshare.com/v/k0uwdkDM/file.html




This is great.  Don't cringe, we should all share more! Mine are usually not vocal but I do hear em.......


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SynKyd]
    #23469117 - 07/23/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

maybe this is how language happened lol. cavemen take some dmt (mushrooms) and start communicating rather just grunts. :haha: highdeas man


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: rickjamez20]
    #23469204 - 07/23/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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maybe this is how language happened lol. cavemen take some dmt (mushrooms) and start communicating rather just grunts. :haha: highdeas man



ive wondered about this as well


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE]
    #23469246 - 07/23/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I believe it's one of the big themes in McKenna's Food of the Gods: language originating from a more developed sense of feeling and communication, which in turn was brought on by psilocybe mushrooms. I think.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604]
    #23469260 - 07/23/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i think that was one of mckenna points
seems possible because it doesnt seem like being able to speak a language like english has any effect on how the tongues sounds or our ability to produce the sound.

im sure that someone that doesnt speak any languages will start vocalizing it in similar ways so mckenna point can definitely be possible


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604]
    #23469288 - 07/23/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hi I have seen this before only via you tube as I have not experienced it yet but would love to but I cannot get hold of it yet I'm in such an amazing spiritual way  and feel it is my time what was the whole experience like for you And oh how envious I am of you are u based in the uk x


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: SleepyE]
    #23469296 - 07/23/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Amazing I am yet to experience it as I cannot get it


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Higher state]
    #23469381 - 07/23/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The stoned ape theory talks about this kind of thing. Apes coming down from the hills and feeding on mushrooms in the valleys.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Higher state]
    #23469422 - 07/23/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, dude, I'll try to answer as best I can as your message is a little.. Rambled. If you don't mind me saying so. :smile:

I'm not going to disclose my location for now, but it's not the UK.

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The experience itself was a very good one, though not the best. It had been a while since I last did DMT and this particular batch has been around for quite a bit. As such, the DMT oxidized and has become orange. It is still very effective, though it does become a bit more.. Rushy? It's rougher around the edges, the body load is heavier and the ride is generally wilder than with fresh DMT. After it's over, I get a lot more of those 'brainzaps' and it is also just that smidge harsher to vape. But those things aren't too bad. :smile:

Now, this time I smoked a nice pipeful of plain caapi leaves before taking off. I have to say I enjoy smoking caapi leaves: it's smooth, the taste is nice and it seems relaxing. It's not something that'll get you stoned, but more relaxed and even somewhat dreamy. I did once make changa with 11x caapi and just the caapi in it will get me hazed and blurry as fuck. I do not particularly care for that.

After the caapi, I loaded up DMT in my machine. Took two or three very large tokes and I was off. Immediately I noticed that the come up is so much more gentle after smoking caapi. I drift into these wonderful colours and patterns instead of feeling like my face was being bashed into the most beautiful brick wall ever by a rocket ship. The caapi also gave it a bit more of an organic, jungly feeling. I saw elephants and monkeys, while the last time on DMT alone I saw a ship, covered in thousands of metallic faces in all colours. I wouldn't say I broke through, though.

The trip itself was a visual spectacle that kept going on for longer than usual, so thanks caapi. Putting what I see into words is already hard enough because it is all so abstract, but there's also soooo much of all of it.

On the come down I was crying, without really feeling any emotion that would fit it. Another side effect of the orange DMT is that I gag on the come down. It's strange since I don't feel like puking and probably won't puke, but it all just tenses up in my chest and throat. I get more brainzaps too, which feels really funny.

Then, in the afterglow of the experience, came the glossolalia. And the more I sober up, the more the ability to fluently speak in tongues disappears.

I wanted to go to sleep. Sorry if I'm being a little basal and too detailed, but DMT makes me horny. Very horny. The stuff has a very sexual influence on me. I masturbated, which was very intense, after which I hit the sack. The next day I woke up fresh.




Now, as for you, I don't believe there is such a thing as 'the right time' to use DMT. Obviously you should mind stuff like set and setting, but there will never be a holy message, a light shining down or a letter from some upper being telling you 'Thou may now partaketh in the spice, thou art ready.' If you get some, pick a nice day and go for it. Yes, you will be anxious. Afraid, even. But that is only healthy: DMT is powerful stuff, man. Respecting DMT ultimately equals respecting yourself. 

Procuring spice on the market can be hard and incredibly pricey. Producing your own is neither. Go for it. If you can follow a cake recipe, you  can make DMT.

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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604]
    #24995662 - 02/15/18 05:21 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Hello Satyr604,

I am very curious about the glossolalia recording that you posted here some year ago. However, the download link is no longer available. Could you possibly upload the recording again?

Also, would anyone else have similar material to share, either in audible or written form?

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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: thelastquestion]
    #24995696 - 02/15/18 05:55 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

This has happened to me once.

Coming down after a pretty heavy shroom dose I decided to vape some dmt.
It wasn't particularly visual (I believe that was due to my head being fried from the shrooms already) but I had this immense pressure on my head. Almost like something was being inserted.
The pressure built and built until there was a "snap" of sorts, and outpoured this crazy sounding "language" out of my mouth.
The more I spoke, the more the pressure released, the better I felt. Once I had came back to baseline this crazy ass thought popped into my head, "Holy shit I have lived a past life. My name was heratogwea".
Turns out there is a church in Japan that uses glossolalia to recall past lives... I will try to post link here when I get more time.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: heratogwea]
    #24996514 - 02/15/18 01:31 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I've also experienced this on DMT, but I don't attribute it to anything significant or spiritual. At least in most cases, the people that speak in tongues with a specific intention (to recall a past life, communicate with a higher power, or w/e) actually have no idea what the language means or if they're speaking it "correctly" or not. Linguists have broken down the syllables people from different languages use for their glossalalia and found that they borrow specifically from the language they already know, not an ancient, shared language called glossolalia. English speakers still use a mix of English syllables, Japanese use Japanese syllables, and etc. Doesn't seem very mystical once you know that.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Icon]
    #24997300 - 02/15/18 07:13 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I've had it happen a handful of times with smoked DMT. Just a bunch of jibberish and stuff pouring out of my mouth with out my control or consciously thinking about it.




I've also experienced something similar at least once before during sleep paralysis...It straight up felt like an "entity" was prying its way into me and speaking through me, it was super bizarre. When this happened I was camping out in the wilderness of the sierra nevada mountains, in the absolute black-darkness and dead silent/stillness of the night. It was super fucked up to have that happen out there lol, talk about a mind fuck.








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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: heratogwea]
    #25000320 - 02/17/18 01:26 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

This sounds interesting!

Do you have a recording/transcript of your glossolalia? I would be very curious to hear/read it. :eek:


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Icon]
    #25000326 - 02/17/18 01:32 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Do you remember what the linguistic analysis was or where it can be found?

Also, have you ever encountered an archive of recordings/transcripts of glossolalia (spoken under the influence or otherwise)? I'm actually looking to do some research around this area, searching for any possible patterns, or a surprising syntax that might emerge.


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Re: Glossolalia ('speaking in tongues') [Re: Satyr604]
    #25000469 - 02/17/18 04:42 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

That looks similar to Hindi language for me.

I also recognize there name Inana ( Inanna, Ishtar, Astarte ) it's a name of Sumerian goddes.


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