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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23467808 - 07/22/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Crystal I'm in love with you. :pm: me.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23467831 - 07/22/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

An extended and more cringey version of that^

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle]
    #23467837 - 07/22/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Let me guess, you're talking to the guy I blocked.

I don't even know who he is, he was being extremely fucking annoying so I nignored his ass.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23467838 - 07/22/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

inb4 :burn:


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23467842 - 07/22/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That's a shame, apparently he loves you.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle]
    #23467847 - 07/22/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Not anymore :cookiemonster:


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23467850 - 07/22/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Apostle said:
Mob rule is an african tradition.

Theyd warp whatever religion came their way.



You make this excuse for Christianity, but don't recognize that essentially this is what has been happening with Islam.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23467855 - 07/22/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Islam doesn't need to be changed one bit to be a barbaric death cult.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23467891 - 07/22/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sorry, I am only referring to developed countries.

Yet, even in a country as wealthy as the UAE, you would think that they have developed human rights for LGBT. Not quite so. The penalty for same-sex relations ranges anywhere from deportation, to chemical castration, to prison time, to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates



These are not first world countries. They are third world countries who just happen to be sitting on a resource that is worth a tremendous amount of money.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23467921 - 07/22/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I will agree, Islam is as much of a religion of war as it is a religion of peace.

But, Christianity is also perverted, and we shouldn't perpetuate or encourage any kind of religious dogma.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23467928 - 07/22/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well, i Agree with the first part.


I respect your opinion on the second but i disagree.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23467937 - 07/22/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Sorry, I am only referring to developed countries.

Yet, even in a country as wealthy as the UAE, you would think that they have developed human rights for LGBT. Not quite so. The penalty for same-sex relations ranges anywhere from deportation, to chemical castration, to prison time, to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates



These are not first world countries. They are third world countries who just happen to be sitting on a resource that is worth a tremendous amount of money.




Well technically, the terms "first world" and "second world" are to do with Cold War allegiances, more than they are to do with social or economic prosperity.

Bear in mind though that both UAE and Saudi Arabia are considered developed countries, they are actually listed as more developed than other countries such as Portugal, Chile, Argentina, and Hungary.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23468058 - 07/23/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Countries with a resource curse have oppressive governments because the government does not depend on the populace to support itself aka tax revenue. It can support itself completely on the revenues from a valuable resource that takes no labor or input from the populace. In fact the populace becomes dependent on the government in this fashion. So the UAE has no incentive to democratize or provide more rights to its citizens.

Also, islam.

Edited by ohcrapitsnico (07/23/16 12:26 AM)

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23468279 - 07/23/16 03:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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And yet there is over whelming data to suggest that most Muslim, even moderate, wish to live under traditional Islamic law.

Are there any true secular, majority Muslim populated country's left in the world?



Show us this data. Especially for the US. The situation in Europe is not really comparable to North America.



I agree, America has not had mass Third World Muslim immigration comparable to Europe over the last few decades.

Support taking in millions of these people like Obama and the Dems want tho and see how that changes over the coming decades :wink:

Most of the data comes from country's that have high, or majority Muslim populations. But there are surveys now coming out of country's like the UK, which show a similar trend in a rise in support for Sharia, with a rise in the Muslim population!



Based on these findings by PEW, it puts the total number of Muslims around the world in support of Sharia, at roughly 1 billion people!

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23468282 - 07/23/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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And yet there is over whelming data to suggest that most Muslim, even moderate, wish to live under traditional Islamic law.

Are there any true secular, majority Muslim populated country's left in the world?




Of all the Muslim leaders and activists out there, the only respectable secular scholar that I've found is Maajid Nawaz, it's no wonder though, considering he's pro-homosexuality and pro-women's rights, how unpopular he is among mainstream Muslims. :cookiemonster:



Sounds like a great guy to me :grin:

I'm surprised that no one ever seems to pick up on the fact that Muslims are never referred to as Liberal. That's maybe because they don't really exist. They are always either moderate, or conservative.

It's funny watching Liberal Westerners arguing in defense of highly conservative religious people :lol:

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23468287 - 07/23/16 03:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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That whole link is very confusing. Originally they said 3 suspects, then it was 1. It was an Iranian German suspect, but also there was another suspect screaming about foreigners. And at the same time, somebody else, another suspect presumably, keeps screaming Allahu Akhbar in the background.

That whole link needs to be purged and cleaned up.




An Iranian Neo-Nazi :lol:

The guy has been confirmed as Iranian and they're blaming the attack on the German right wing :rolleyes:

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Bubbles85]
    #23468303 - 07/23/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
That whole link is very confusing. Originally they said 3 suspects, then it was 1. It was an Iranian German suspect, but also there was another suspect screaming about foreigners. And at the same time, somebody else, another suspect presumably, keeps screaming Allahu Akhbar in the background.

That whole link needs to be purged and cleaned up.




An Iranian Neo-Nazi :lol:

The guy has been confirmed as Iranian and they're blaming the attack on the German right wing :rolleyes:




Well, an Iranian ISIL supporter is actually just as absurd as an Iranian Neo-Nazi. It would be highly unlikely for an Iranian to be either an IS supporter OR a Neo-Nazi. That's what makes this thing so bizarre.

But perhaps he was something else, such as Hezbollah. Iranian Hezbollah fighter is much more likely than an Iranian ISIS supporter.


Oh, and regarding Sharia Law, this is apparently what Italian Muslims think about how women should dress:


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Bubbles85]
    #23468309 - 07/23/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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It's funny watching Liberal Westerners arguing in defense of highly conservative religious people :lol:




Yeah, and just imagine how strict drug laws would be under Muslim law. Probably this entire website would be considered haram and shut down. Us speaking ill of the religion or for making cartoons of Mohammed would mean we would be sentenced to death.

Apparently UAE has the strictest customs in the entire world. They've sent foreigners and tourists to prison for 5 years or more, for ridiculous things, like finding 3 poppy seeds on their T-shirt that fell off a bagel. Or finding like 0.01 micrograms of marijuana underneath the sole of a shoe, which by the way, is an amount you would need a magnifying glass to see. Are they the most thorough agents who do their job ever or what?

They have also set up these BS Sharia Law kangaroo "courts" in Britain, which of course have no legal jurisdiction over anything, but often give horrible advice to Muslim women who seek counsel from them.

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Take also al-Darsh’s successor as president of the ISC, the aforementioned Maulana Abu Sayeed, who remains one of the organisation’s three trustees to this day. A cleric who sits in judgment over the marital disputes heard in its courtrooms, he made headlines in 2010 by telling an influential blog that men who rape their wives should not be prosecuted, because ‘sex is part of marriage’.
‘Clearly there cannot be any rape within the marriage. Maybe aggression, maybe indecent activity,’ he said.
Abu Sayeed added that women who say they have been raped should not immediately go to the police. Many of them are lying, he claimed, ‘because they have got this idea of so-called equality, equal rights’.
Asked about those outwardly misogynistic comments, the ISC said: ‘Maulana Abu Sayeed is a deeply respected scholar. He was quoting traditional Islamic discussion regarding rape within marriage.’




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Elsewhere, in the same building, a third hearing is taking place, presided over by a much younger cleric, Furqan Mahmood. In front of him sits a nervous-looking Muslim couple, who have several children.
They are, they explain, concerned that their marriage, conducted several years ago, might somehow be invalid. To blame is a technicality of Islamic law: the woman divorced her first husband in the UK courts, but failed to also obtain a religious divorce, or Talaq.
So the couple are worried this inadvertent breach of Muslim custom could, on paper, mean that she is living as an adulteress.
The cleric certainly seems deeply concerned. ‘It is going to be a difficult case,’ Mahmood, who wears long white robes, tells the couple. ‘We are going to ask our scholars to give you the answers.’
One potential way to adhere to the letter of Islamic law would be for the couple to undergo a process called Nikah Halala. This would begin with them divorcing, a step that would allow a cleric to legally declare the woman’s first marriage over.
Then, before re-marrying her second husband, the woman would be required to have a temporary marriage, to a third man.
‘She will need to have sex first [with the third man], divorce him, [and] wait three menstrual periods,’ reports a witness to the hearing. ‘Then she can return to the father of her children.’
This medieval-sounding procedure apparently derives from a passage in the Koran that stipulates it’s ‘not lawful’ for a divorced woman to sleep with her ex-husband ‘until after she marries a husband other than him’.




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Finally, there is Shaykh Haitham al-Haddad, who was a trustee of the ISC until last year, serving as its treasurer.
Often dubbed a hate-preacher, — which he denies — he has been quoted saying that ‘Muslims should rule the entire planet with Islamic law’ and can be seen on YouTube describing female circumcision as an ‘honour’ and arguing that ‘Islamic law has no minimum age for marriage’.
He openly criticises ‘the scourge of homosexuality’, and has had talks at a number of universities postponed and cancelled.
He has also been quoted calling Jews ‘the descendants of apes and pigs and the enemies of God’.




This was actually quite a good read, unlike most of the stuff usually posted on DailyMail, I actually enjoyed reading this whole thing: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3358625/Inside-Britain-s-Sharia-courts-EIGHTY-FIVE-Islamic-courts-dispensing-justice-UK-special-investigation-really-goes-doors-shock-core.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36388560

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23468342 - 07/23/16 05:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

you're asking for secular religious people? i'm confused? does anyone actually know the differences muslims besides TV rhetoric? anybody know what a wahabbi is? has anyone studied capitalism or neoliberalism? does anyone know the history of US invasions and murders (ex. shooting down passenger jet of Iran), supporting repressive regimes (Saudi, former Shah of Iran), US corporations destroying villages for mining or oil (any country in sub-saharan Africa)??? Take a look at whats really going on, talk to muslims themselves no other people who get all their info from the TV. Muslims arent much different than us, they wanna eat, watch tv, and laugh. When the worlds people can see past their differences that are put into them by the TV then we can start looking at who the hell is really fucking us all, rich white guys in suits and ties. The working class people of the West hate the working class people of the east all in the interest of elite business people and politicians. Its a sad day when the puppet master rules.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: anthiawe]
    #23468348 - 07/23/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Now i have a friend from the UAE and friends from saudi, many of whom I smoke up with. These tall tales of prison instantly is false. all arab states have judicial systems. I dont like these states per say, i do beleive they are far too strict on many things, and thats why a gram of weed can be up to 150.00USD. For Saudi it is likely you will get jail time for anything about a couple of grams, below is a fine. For dealing is death. again, rhetoric for the television and large broadcasters in the west are biased towards western interests, and that means fostering hatred and fear of the east, so when they invade for the large weapons manufactures, bankers, and oil companies, their people wont protest because they already hate them (thanks to the TV news propoganda).
Peace to all my muslims bros and sis and america/western secular pals!


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