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Alcohol or Psychedelics.
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Simple.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead] 1
#23467548 - 07/22/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No both option, invalid poll.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: vandago]
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Probably burn down banks.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead] 2
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i like to drink on psychedelics.
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I choose booze just because it is hard to fry around family. Psychedelics are not really a family drug.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead] 3
#23467574 - 07/22/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i love frying around my family.
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sanchothestoner said: i love frying around my family.
Well I never!
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23467591 - 07/22/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Both
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: vandago]
#23467596 - 07/22/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Beautiful family. Which shit eating grinned asshat are you? xD
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: vandago]
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vandago said:
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sanchothestoner said: i love frying around my family.
Well I never!

damn dude, what were you, 17?
didn't know you had so many siblings
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: vandago]
#23467620 - 07/22/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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vandago said:
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sanchothestoner said: i love frying around my family.
Well I never!

lmao ur a ginger
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sanchothestoner said: i like to drink on psychedelics.
This. This so fucking hard.
Honestly man I haven't tripped for years without drinking copious amounts of alcohol on the shit.
That said, if I had to pick, it would easily be psychs. Psychs is just an entirely different league.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead] 1
#23467632 - 07/22/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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years ago, my answer would've been psychedelics, hands down, no contest, EVAR
current day, i'd probably have to go with alcohol. i've found a great appreciation for a nice, steady buzz. nor do i think my heart could handle psychedelics anymore.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: demiu5]
#23467637 - 07/22/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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demiu5 said: nor do i think my heart could handle psychedelics anymore.
It is tough, man. A lot of trips nowadays, as much as I love them, I often find myself "surviving" the trip if you know what I mean.
They're exhausting.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: demiu5]
#23467642 - 07/22/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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demiu5 said:
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vandago said:
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sanchothestoner said: i love frying around my family.
Well I never!

damn dude, what were you, 17?
didn't know you had so many siblings
Hahaha, this was taken in 2010 on christmas. 25
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Niffla]
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Niffla said:
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demiu5 said: nor do i think my heart could handle psychedelics anymore.
It is tough, man. A lot of trips nowadays, as much as I love them, I often find myself "surviving" the trip if you know what I mean.
They're exhausting.
i can definitely dig it. Even cannabis sometimes causes palpitations. can't imagine what 3-6 hits of strong L would do.
My heart stopped on n,n-dmt once, translucent shards (super clean). i don't know an exact time frame, but i imagine it to be at least 20 seconds, possible longer. that was 8-9 years ago. i definitely pushed things to my physical limits back in the day
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: vandago]
#23467652 - 07/22/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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vandago said:
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demiu5 said:
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vandago said:
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sanchothestoner said: i love frying around my family.
Well I never!

damn dude, what were you, 17?
didn't know you had so many siblings
Hahaha, this was taken in 2010 on christmas. 25 
whaaaaaaaaaaaat!??
i guess anytime we kicked it you always had a beard, or at least a lot of scruff
don't feel bad, i barely look 18 when i shave/have short hair
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: demiu5]
#23467658 - 07/22/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I never thought much about psychedelics stopping hearts, but in 2011 or 12 I was at a concert with a friend and we were on shrooms. He had a heart attack in the middle of it. He was 20 at the time.
He had bad heart health already, but he shrooms didn't help.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: PatrickKn]
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PatrickKn said: I never thought much about psychedelics stopping hearts, but in 2011 or 12 I was at a concert with a friend and we were on shrooms. He had a heart attack in the middle of it. He was 20 at the time.
He had bad heart health already, but he shrooms didn't help.
that's shitty to hear, man. anything that affects blood pressure can result in an infarction
edit: did he survive? and if so, any long-term brain damage?
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: demiu5]
#23467669 - 07/22/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'll pass on both, thanks.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23467688 - 07/22/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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demiu5 said:
My heart stopped on n,n-dmt once, translucent shards (super clean). i don't know an exact time frame, but i imagine it to be at least 20 seconds, possible longer.
damn that shit's nuts man
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PatrickKn said: I never thought much about psychedelics stopping hearts, but in 2011 or 12 I was at a concert with a friend and we were on shrooms. He had a heart attack in the middle of it. He was 20 at the time.
He had bad heart health already, but he shrooms didn't help.
I think I remember you mentioning this. Scary stuff to say the least.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Niffla]
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I can't be sure but dmt probably is a chemical your body makes to stop/slow your heart to save your brain and nervous system. Wouldn't that be some shit xD
Now that I think on it I could microdose around my family for sure.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead] 1
#23468201 - 07/23/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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My friends eye got semi-permenantly googly, like bent off to the side after smoking a bunch of dmt. It's not so noticeable until he drinks a lot or is very tired.
Like this
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: trees]
#23468203 - 07/23/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck drugs lol
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23468209 - 07/23/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Niffla]
#23468311 - 07/23/16 04:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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sanchothestoner said: i like to drink on psychedelics.
This. This so fucking hard.
Honestly man I haven't tripped for years without drinking copious amounts of alcohol on the shit.
That said, if I had to pick, it would easily be psychs. Psychs is just an entirely different league.
was 6 month without drink, But when I trip I let myself have at least couple of beers.
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There's nothing like sipping some fine liquor after the trip is starting to wear off
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23470517 - 07/23/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alcohol > Psychedelics
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23470615 - 07/23/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hate alcohol so psychs easily
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Ezuma]
#23470786 - 07/23/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like to drink on a psych comedown. I drink a few times a week sometimes, sometimes every day, sometimes not for a few weeks. There was a point where it was every couple months, but that was before I realized beer and other grain based alcohols really don't agree with me. Now I drink all the time, more than I trip out these days. Really it's a tie between the two and weed. Weed is good. I'm hella shitfaced fuck
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Psychs by far for me! I don't drink anymore I think the last time I had a beer was around new years probably lol. To me theres nothing like an LSD or mushroom trip. Cant forget my mary jane either there nothing like that plant.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23470919 - 07/23/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alcohol makes me feel like Christ. So why do I need acid lmao for real alcohol is so clinch you guys.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23470925 - 07/23/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No custies in the alcohol game, hella! Fuck my dog just farted
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XLCaps said: No custies in the alcohol game, hella! Fuck my dog just farted
Wine is the way.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23470932 - 07/23/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sure some lsd and red wine go together like no other though..
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23470946 - 07/23/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wine 
Man I've tried but I can't do wine. Too dry. The few times I've gotten drunk on wine I've woken up in strange places and had to walk home long distances like some kind of lonely vomit covered nomad.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23470953 - 07/23/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wine is the way.
Wine is good man, but that shit is a slippery slope for me.
Too easy to start day drinking and such
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You should try it again but drink it like it's the blood of Christ. Or have Christ with you while you smash a bottle or two.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23471349 - 07/24/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't like getting drunk. I will drink a small glass of whiskey or Bailey's once a week. (At most). I like the taste.
I prefer psychedelics by far..though they can be exhausting. I want to try some hash brownies sometime though.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Glameow]
#23471481 - 07/24/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alcohol is only good to a point for me.. anymore than 5-6 pints and I'll just end up paying for it the next day.. Good for socializing though!
Reckon I prefer psychs more though but they only work well in some social situations for me.
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: Shiithead]
#23471893 - 07/24/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: I'm sure some lsd and red wine go together like no other though..
Now drinking a glass of some tastey wine would prolly be really good while one some doses!
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: AVShroomer]
#23471923 - 07/24/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wine is good but I prefer the hard stuff
Tequila is my favorite but good tequila is hella expensive so I usually just drink bourbon or rum
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: AVShroomer]
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Shiithead said: I'm sure some lsd and red wine go together like no other though..
Now drinking a glass of some tastey wine would prolly be really good while one some doses! 
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Re: Alcohol or Psychedelics. [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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Crown Royal Apple is really good too, the crisp apple flavor is on point
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ElectricNoodle said: Alcohol is only good to a point for me.. anymore than 5-6 pints and I'll just end up paying for it the next day.. Good for socializing though!
Reckon I prefer psychs more though but they only work well in some social situations for me.
5-6 pints over a couple hours is a lot of alcohol, especially if they are 6% or above

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