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Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song?
    #23467280 - 07/22/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

While on mushrooms recently my hearing was enhanced and I heard the robot voice clearly in song. I had listened to this song many times but this voice was never clear or stood out to me.
As you all know hearing is enhanced on psilocybin. The song is Keep Talking, from the Division Bell album. The lyrics start in a robot type voice
"For millions of years mankind lived just like the animals
Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination
We learned to talk"
Wow! Very much in line with Terence McKenna's stoned ape evolution theory.
Anyone else believe there's any similarities?


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Headrush]
    #23467457 - 07/22/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well there's a similarity in that both the lyric and McKenna focussed in on a certain 'event' which spurred on the evolution of the genus Homo into Homo Sapiens.

However, it is still shrouded in much mystery, and the best we have at this moment are theories. The song doesn't seem to make mention of a specific chemical being the initiator of the change, so it doesn't seem highly relavent to the Stoned Ape Theory, but hey it sounds like a cool experience! :heart:


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23467474 - 07/22/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hence the term "mind manifesting" . I felt at the time it all made perfect sense and I was so overwhelmed. I guess our minds,especially on trips try to make sense of things.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Headrush] * 1
    #23467490 - 07/22/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I wanna say thats steven hawking ill look it up though


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Mike4aco] * 1
    #23467523 - 07/22/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's the voice of Stephen Hawking and it was lifted from this TV commercial. Story goes that this commercial brought Gilmour to tears, and that's why they used it. Maybe he was tripping when he saw it?



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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Universe]
    #23467532 - 07/22/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes thanks.  Google was being slow due to me being over mh data limit


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23467553 - 07/22/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My friend who has since passed said the wall was written about his life while on LSD the odd part is it really does seem to fit him but I guess it's not an uncommon upbringing


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23467555 - 07/22/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I wish David Gilmour could open up a little more on psychedelics. He's such a gentleman in interviews.
I did see a recent video on Liptv where Paul Simon's son interviews David and he commented that lysergics and cannabis are benign unless pre disposed to underlying problem.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Headrush]
    #23467569 - 07/22/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The Wall is Roger Waters story. I believe LSD had a lot of inspiration into all of their music.
Just fits together too much to be a coincidence.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Universe]
    #23467594 - 07/22/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Universe said:
It's the voice of Stephen Hawking and it was lifted from this TV commercial. Story goes that this commercial brought Gilmour to tears, and that's why they used it. Maybe he was tripping when he saw it?





Wow,thanks for the info about Stephen Hawking. I really appreciate the information.
I love the shroomery people,where else can people like us exchange information like this! I guess we all have to "Keep Talking"
And the video has apes? Wow


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Headrush]
    #23467610 - 07/22/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This guy was raised without a father by a protective mother, when I hear the wall that's what stands out the most to me besides it being so damn good, it's just perfect
His personal story being a big infulance makes "comfortably numb" ironically uncomfortable tho


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: BaronVonBud]
    #23467747 - 07/22/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This guy was raised without a father by a protective mother, when I hear the wall that's what stands out the most to me besides it being so damn good, it's just perfect
His personal story being a big infulance makes "comfortably numb" ironically uncomfortable tho



Great point, seems to fit into lives of so many people. Not only us,but for generations to come. Truly timeless music.
Darkside of the Moon is universal to all people, it's a masterpiece about life, in chronological order!


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    #23469163 - 07/23/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: psychobla]
    #23469617 - 07/23/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I totally thought you'd be referencing the gnome song :grin:
Terence McKenna referenced this one himself.



IMO Pink Floyd is made for psilocybin :pipesmoke:

It's pretty interesting that psychedelics can bring such vastly different people with different upbringings to fairly similar conclusions about the universe and spirituality.



Great song, definitely seems to reference mushrooms.
Also seen new BBC documentary on YouTube where David is walking through grass with reporter and he stops to pick mushrooms, likely just edible, but made me wonder.
Your right on with fan diversity, got to be the most diverse range of age and social class of any band. Got to see the in 1988 in Chicago.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Headrush]
    #23469995 - 07/23/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Is there any evidence to say that the entire band used to take psychedelics? Ive always wondered.

I know one of them used a lot.. Forget his name though.

Floyd is one of my favorite bands. I just dont keep up with the artist names of bands i like. Dont hate me haha.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: ak47myth]
    #23470087 - 07/23/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Syd Barret. The Wall was about him. Shine on you crazy diamond was about him, etc.. He was pre-disposed towards Schizophrenia. And yes, the whole band did acid. They were THE cutting edge of "psychedelia" in the UK. The house band so to speak. Listen to "The piper at the gates of dawn".
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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: ByCoverOfNight]
    #23471322 - 07/24/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There ya go. Yeah, Syd is the one i knew about who definitely tripped. Didnt know if the others had.

I always hoped they all experienced similar stuff like myself. Their music is just too perfect for tripping.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: ByCoverOfNight]
    #23472309 - 07/24/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How much do you think they tripped? ( other than Syd Barrett, that crazy diamond )

I always kind of got the sense from Gilmore and maybe some of the others that they were pretty experienced with it, but treated the psychedelics as tools rather than a lifestyle.
Like they had moved on from taking them at a certain point, so to speak.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23472381 - 07/24/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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How much do you think they tripped? ( other than Syd Barrett, that crazy diamond )

I always kind of got the sense from Gilmore and maybe some of the others that they were pretty experienced with it, but treated the psychedelics as tools rather than a lifestyle.
Like they had moved on from taking them at a certain point, so to speak.




That sounds about right. Most of the Floyd albums sound like they were made to be listened to while tripping. I always got the impression that the members of Pink Floyd (post Sid) applied their psychedelic experiences to their song writing but it wasn't, as you put it, their lifestyle. Sid's downfall may have been a big reason.

I always felt that those early albums were a little rough - hard to listen to. The stuff with Sid is like a whole different band, IMO. Poor sound quality, the musicianship isn't quite up there like the rest and the songs are pretty out there. I don't think they achieved perfection until Dark Side. That last album, Final Cut, was terrible. I don't think I've ever gotten through it in it's entirety. The two post-Waters albums are really great to listen to tripping, but again, it's like a different band. In my mind they are Gilmour solo albums. I saw them around 1989-90 when they were touring for Momentary Lapse - great, great show! I wanted to trip so bad, but I was with friends who don't trip and I was driving.


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Re: Terence McKenna's theory in Pink Floyd song? [Re: Universe] * 1
    #23472510 - 07/24/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nah Pink Floyd was just Pink Floyd. That music was the sound they heard in their heads & felt in their hearts. It does go well with psychedelics, but the band members themselves were not fans of the drugs. Syd Barrett lost his shit & became a hermit. They blamed LSD, which he did abuse & did precipitate his descent into schizophrenia. So the remaining members were not cool with psychedelics, and said as much in interviews. Shine On You Crazy Diamond is an album for Syd. Listen to the lyrics in the title track, and you'll hear their thoughts on the matter.


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