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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: overthrow]
    #23469547 - 07/23/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Get yourself a PC and make some small jars or bottles of sterilized water, and scrape about a square centimeter of the print into it to make syringes with. I use sterilized flat tip toothpicks for this. About 100 to 200ml of water to about 1 square cm of print is a good ratio for a beginner. The PC will also allow you to make agar dishes and grain jars properly. Patience is a virtue in mycology, better to wait and do it right that rush and have an epic fail.


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23469613 - 07/23/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

A pencil-tip sized dot per syringe would've been better.  A quarter of a print per syringe is a bit much..


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: overthrow]
    #23469632 - 07/23/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Today I made two 10cc syringes using a bit less than half of the print. I had no idea whether it would be packed or what. It was a very decent print of a very small shroom.

Learning about agar now and also I might have to move away from cakes and maybe think of grains or something else since I definitely can find jars, just not the ones appropriate for the PF Tek.




1 print should make 20 syringes easily, less is more when it comes to spore inoculation.

yeah agar usually means grains, but you dont NEED wide mouth canning jars, you dont even have to birth the cakes you can just open the lid and put them in the sgfc!
just try to find jars that are about as tall as they are wide, those gives the fastest colonization and doesnt stall as often as taller ones do.


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: overthrow]
    #23469642 - 07/23/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fuckkkk yeaaahh, i started the exact same way, used FSRE (they are saints in sporetorn areas) and even chose B+ :offthehook:

Don't sell yourself short, agar is definitely the way to stretch spores and cultures and is necessary (extremely helpful) down the line.
( https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976 , https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023

I'd personally choose to make Liquid Inoculant to shoot up your cakes with over making a LC
( https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20429745 , https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22833314 )
Once you get into agar this hobby gets really fun.


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23470151 - 07/23/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ordering is fine, receiving is not. A couple of months ago my friend in the US sent me 2 t-shirts as a gift and they got stuck in customs after over a month. They tax anything above 25USD if I remember well and the volume of packages is big so it is a major cluster fuck to even pay for the taxes and receive anything from abroad. My friend asked for the package to be returned and sent it to my home country instead where it arrived in two weeks at my parents place just fine, no hassle.

Also my roommate from the US once ordered something online that came from Korea or China and even though I received the required notice letter that the package was in customs (which I did not for the t-shirts), I could not go get it for him and pay the taxes for him because it was on his name and he had already returned to the US when it got here and he wouldn't be back for a few months.

I'm going to be in my home country for a month in October and could try then, but most likely will wait until December to get them in the US.

There must be other teks that I can follow 100% that do not require shoulderless jars so that's what I am thinking I'll do for now even though I am sure I'll need a PC but am fine with that.


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23470179 - 07/23/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the incentive MysticMoteToter!

I am definitely sold on the usefulness of agar and it's my next project before I even try another tek.

My next choices of strains are golden teacher, thai and brazil. Let's see what they send me next time.


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23470219 - 07/23/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tip... as a noob you just feel the need to actually see the spores in the water and I get it now that I had/have a very decent print and didn't have to worry about that. Will buy more syringes and use way less this time. I'm using bottled distilled water for now but as I put my hands on a PC, it sure seems a lot more practical to just do it in the final recipient, scrape the spores and suck it in :smile:


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23470229 - 07/23/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can too many spores cause a problem? I've seen in videos/pics of spore syringe suppliers and some of them come really packed to the point you have to break it up and water gets dark. Wondering if that is more of a marketing thing than it is practical.


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Re: Low on spores, safest way? [Re: overthrow]
    #23470240 - 07/23/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Stop bumping your thread. It's hard to respond to a question when 3 new ones popup instantly. It's also against the rules.

You can do BRF in shouldered jars. You just can't birth it. Simply leave the cake in the jar, case the top and fruit from the top. It does fine.

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