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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
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Apostle said: So the wonderful muslim you met isn't actually muslim.
I guess i do believe you afterall.
He was raised Muslim. His parents are from Pakistan.
So he's a non-practicing Muslim. There are indeed gay Muslims and ex-Muslims, but the backlash that they face from their community is outrageous.
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
#23467526 - 07/22/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I was little, my parents sent me to something called "pre kindergarten" because I was/am, ah, a bit special. This is for kids who aren't ready for kindergarten upon completing their course of study at preschool
Anyway, the pre-K was called "mustard seed" and my mom didn't get the reference and my dad didn't question it. This turned out to be my first direct experience with Christianity. The teacher told us to say that we love Jesus and I was like "how can I love somebody I don't even know??" The teacher was not pleased
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
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Apostle said: So the wonderful muslim you met isn't actually muslim.
I guess i do believe you afterall.
He was raised Muslim. His parents are from Pakistan.
So he's a non-practicing Muslim. There are indeed gay Muslims and ex-Muslims, but the backlash that they face from their community is outrageous.
I've known quite a few gay people with a Muslim upbringing, and I never got the sense that their parents or community had issues with them. I dated a guy who was a practicing Muslim and went and stayed with him and his family for a week. I got no sense there was any problem and he was totally out of the closet. Frankly, it's the gay people with a Catholic upbringing that seem to have the biggest problem with their families, or even being comfortable with themselves.
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
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Apostle said: So the wonderful muslim you met isn't actually muslim.
I guess i do believe you afterall.
He was raised Muslim. His parents are from Pakistan.
So he's a non-practicing Muslim. There are indeed gay Muslims and ex-Muslims, but the backlash that they face from their community is outrageous.
I've known quite a few gay people with a Muslim upbringing, and I never got the sense that their parents or community had issues with them. I dated a guy who was a practicing Muslim and went and stayed with him and his family for a week. I got no sense there was any problem and he was totally out of the closet. Frankly, it's the gay people with a Catholic upbringing that seem to have the biggest problem with their families, or even being comfortable with themselves.
There's actually frequently debates over whether you can be Muslim and gay at the same time, popular consensus among mainstream Muslims is that you cannot be both, you either have to be one or the other. I watched this one, Nawaz can be seen speaking in it.
The 2 ladies at 14:12 and 15 minutes are very clear about their belief that you cannot be gay and Muslim at the same time, Majiid Nawaz completely obliterates them and exposes their hypocrisy at 15:45 and again at 18:06 
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
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Just as Christianity has never been disputed as a religion of peace, so too has the ability of gay Christians to live and love and worship as equals never been an issue at debate for the ultra progressive Christian faith
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Do Christian countries still execute gays, following Christian law? No, they don't.
Only in supposed "Christian" or secular countries can openly gay imams even exist.
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23467695 - 07/22/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And which religion was responsible for Ghana's kill the gays law, again? You have remarkably selective memory.
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Sorry, I am only referring to developed countries.
Yet, even in a country as wealthy as the UAE, you would think that they have developed human rights for LGBT. Not quite so. The penalty for same-sex relations ranges anywhere from deportation, to chemical castration, to prison time, to death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
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That's right, the people who brought the death penalty for gays to Ghana were American Evangelical Christians.
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Mob rule is an african tradition.
Theyd warp whatever religion came their way.
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Ghana has its own set of problems, such as female genital mutilation.
Amazing how Abu Dhabi and Dubai are still called "The progressive, new Middle East," I find absolutely nothing to be progressive about it. Men and women must still refrain from hugging in public, one must cover themselves including their shoulders and legs even in the sweltering heat, it's a crime to be gay or drink alcohol outside of a hotel, etc.
Not only that, but the UAE has the strictest customs agents. They have arrested people for having 3 poppy seeds on their shirts that fell off from a bagel. Or arrested people for microscopic amounts of marijuana found on the bottom sole of their shoe.
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23467728 - 07/22/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought the conversation was on bringing people with a Muslim background into the country, not how horrible the countries they are trying to often flee from are.
Edit: not directed at anyone in particular. I just see a lot of threads on Islam turn into this same circle jerk conversation about the benefits of Christianity over Islam. Both religions have not cases, both have secularism. Historically Christan cultures have secularized faster in most places, but there are plenty of secularized Muslims as well.
Being a fundamentalist dick bag is the common denominator.
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: PatrickKn]
#23467758 - 07/22/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edit: not directed at anyone in particular. I just see a lot of threads on Islam turn into this same circle jerk conversation about the benefits of Christianity over Islam. Both religions have not cases, both have secularism. Historically Christan cultures have secularized faster in most places, but there are plenty of secularized Muslims as well.
Being a fundamentalist dick bag is the common denominator.
Please then, kindly explain why radicals such as Osama Bin Laden, Hassan al-Banna, Abdullah Azzam, and Ayatollah Khomeini have the largest following among Islam. These followers are not in the thousands, but in the millions and millions.
I don't respect Christianity either. But at least, Christians in this country, don't preach about the killing of infidels, and all this extreme nonsense. For the most part, Christians in this country are secular.
And if Christians were to start propagating and practicing such nonsense, I would think it's time to start a holy war against them. Clearly the solution to extremism is not to tolerate it, that's how this nonsense has exploded so out of hand in the first place.
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
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so you are in support of a crusade against the Islamic terrorists?
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle]
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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle]
#23467799 - 07/22/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What did he say?...
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