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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23484585 - 07/28/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

This is still only a very small fraction of all immigrants here. 2000 of 4 - 5 million isnt exactly representative.




:facepalm: What horrible math.

First of all, ALL of Germany has around 2 million migrants total that arrived this year. That's in ALL of Germany, not Cologne. Only a fraction of those are in the city of Cologne. A smaller fraction out of those were even AT the Cologne Festival the night this occurred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Cologne

According to the demographics of Cologne, the total population is around 1 million. German citizen population is 800,000, so we can assume that the remaining 200,000 are immigrants.

I'm quite certain that out of those 200,000 immigrants, a sizable percentage of those immigrants are not migrants or refugees, but other types of immigrants such as Polish, Romani Gypsies, British, Eastern European, Indians, East Asian, Nigerians, etc.

And don't forget roughly 30% of refugees are women, so you would have to omit 30% of the refugee population automatically from the numbers that you are calculating as well.

Then, out of the remaining numbers of immigrants that ARE male migrants or refugees, I'm quite certain far less numbers attended the Cologne Carnival. Pretty certain old men and women, and men and women who have families, and children, were far less likely to attend. And there's a fairly sizable portion of these types of people who compose the migrant population, who likely wouldn't have attended the carnival.

So basically, you would have only had to include young, single men (not women, since they were not the perpetrators at Cologne), who were also part of the refugee/migrant population living SPECIFICALLY in Cologne, that also attended the Cologne Festival at the night of the event.

Now, how many refugees do you think that is? 5,000? 10,000? 20,000?

I am very surprised that you overlooked this, I thought Germans are supposed to be good at math?

According to the Wiki article you posted, around 2,000 men were involved in the attacks. And assuming 10,000 young, male refugees and migrants attended the party that night, then that makes 1/5th of the migrant population attending there guilty of the Cologne attacks, now wouldn't it?


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23484587 - 07/28/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

and in your mind what would be the correct response to this?


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23484671 - 07/28/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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howsyournaggerdoin said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

This is still only a very small fraction of all immigrants here. 2000 of 4 - 5 million isnt exactly representative.




:facepalm: What horrible math.

First of all, ALL of Germany has around 2 million migrants total that arrived this year. That's in ALL of Germany, not Cologne. Only a fraction of those are in the city of Cologne. A smaller fraction out of those were even AT the Cologne Festival the night this occurred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Cologne

According to the demographics of Cologne, the total population is around 1 million. German citizen population is 800,000, so we can assume that the remaining 200,000 are immigrants.

I'm quite certain that out of those 200,000 immigrants, a sizable percentage of those immigrants are not migrants or refugees, but other types of immigrants such as Polish, Romani Gypsies, British, Eastern European, Indians, East Asian, Nigerians, etc.

And don't forget roughly 30% of refugees are women, so you would have to omit 30% of the refugee population automatically from the numbers that you are calculating as well.

Then, out of the remaining numbers of immigrants that ARE male migrants or refugees, I'm quite certain far less numbers attended the Cologne Carnival. Pretty certain old men and women, and men and women who have families, and children, were far less likely to attend. And there's a fairly sizable portion of these types of people who compose the migrant population, who likely wouldn't have attended the carnival.

So basically, you would have only had to include young, single men (not women, since they were not the perpetrators at Cologne), who were also part of the refugee/migrant population living SPECIFICALLY in Cologne, that also attended the Cologne Festival at the night of the event.

Now, how many refugees do you think that is? 5,000? 10,000? 20,000?

I am very surprised that you overlooked this, I thought Germans are supposed to be good at math?

According to the Wiki article you posted, around 2,000 men were involved in the attacks. And assuming 10,000 young, male refugees and migrants attended the party that night, then that makes 1/5th of the migrant population attending there guilty of the Cologne attacks, now wouldn't it?




What about the cities that have huge refugee populations where almost nothing happend ? I dont think its good to judge all of them for what happend in cologne.

Ive actually never heart that stereotype.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23484729 - 07/28/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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and in your mind what would be the correct response to this?





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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23484785 - 07/28/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Antisocial kids speak in a very loud, confident voice, and speak up first when asked a question in a group? News to me.




I don't think antisocial is meant in the sense of introversion here. AFAIK antisocial is another word for sociopathic or psychopathic ie lacking in empathy and remorse, which the people who carry out terrorist attacks clearly are.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle]
    #23484786 - 07/28/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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and in your mind what would be the correct response to this?





We need another Crusade.




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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23484793 - 07/28/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What about the cities that have huge refugee populations where almost nothing happend ? I dont think its good to judge all of them for what happend in cologne.

Ive actually never heart that stereotype.




You mean the cities where refugees are locked in camps all day, and don't associate with outsiders? Has there been any more grandiose public festivals or carnivals where everybody is getting drunk in the street?

Apparently you don't realize that they had to change the refugee camp staff to all males, because the women were all getting sexually harassed and assaulted. Not only that, but some female refugees have been raped in the camps by other asylum seekers.

Apparently there were so many sexual assault cases against the women who were the cleaning staff at this one refugee camp, that they had to change to all male staff, and hire security guards: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3276067/Migrant-women-forced-10-time-prostitutes-German-asylum-camps-sexual-assaults-everyday-event-violent-clashes-frequently-break-out.html

Oberhausen apparently has taken in close to 25% of the refugee population. According to this chart, Bavaria and Oberhausen have taken in the most refugees.

I am certain there is crime, you just don't know about it. Apparently the police are refusing to go public about crimes committed by refugees.

But here, you're German. Surely you can read this (I actually use Google translate to read Swedish and German publications that don't make it to the states or get translated in English): http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2069675-13-jaehriges-Maedchen-aus-Asien-von-Landsmann-missbraucht-Verdaechtiger-in-U-Haft-Polizei-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-Im-Fluechtlingsheim-vergewaltigt-Oeffentlichkeit-soll-nichts-erfahren

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Police in the Bavarian town of Mering, where a 16-year-old-girl was raped on September 11, have issued a warning to parents not to allow their children to go outside unaccompanied. They have also advised women not to walk to or from the train station alone because of its proximity to a refugee shelter.

In the Bavarian town of Pocking, administrators of the Wilhelm-Diess-Gymnasium have warned parents not to let their daughters wear revealing clothing in order to avoid "misunderstandings" with the 200 Muslim refugees housed in emergency accommodations in a building next to the school. The letter said:

"The Syrian citizens are mainly Muslim and speak Arabic. The refugees have their own culture. Because our school is directly next to where they are staying, modest clothing should be worn in order to avoid disagreements. Revealing tops or blouses, short shorts or miniskirts could lead to misunderstandings."

A local politician quoted by Die Welt newspaper said:

"When Muslim teenage boys go to open air swimming pools, they are overwhelmed when they see girls in bikinis. These boys, who come from a culture where for women it is frowned upon to show naked skin, will follow girls and bother them without their realizing it. Naturally, this generates fear."




This is really a big, big shame. Germany used to be one of the most liberal countries. They have co-ed saunas where you could go bathe fully naked with men and women, Germans don't care about censoring anything, even hardcore BDSM sex scenes on TV or in advertisements. It'd be a real shame if they had to become more modest just to appease some feeble-minded religious turds.



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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23484826 - 07/28/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

This is still only a very small fraction of all immigrants here. 2000 of 4 - 5 million isnt exactly representative.




You do realize that there were many Muslim attacks in cities across the EU on NYE? http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/more-cities-reports-of-muslim-sex-attacks-on-new-years-eve-in-zurich-helsinki.html/


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23484830 - 07/28/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I doubt Germany is going to change its customs to "appease" the migrants.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23484831 - 07/28/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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and in your mind what would be the correct response to this?




Deportation, it's going to save thousands if not millions of innocent Muslim lives.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23484856 - 07/28/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've even heard reports of refugees calling female aid workers in Hungary and Austria "Christian whores." I haven't been able to definitively prove this evidence, since in all the news reports, it was only paraphrased from an anonymous unnamed female aid worker.

But if it is true, then these women are helping the migrants, and they don't even show any gratitude, they berate them and call them whores. Why are they letting these people who do this in the country?

Here are a couple (in Germany I assume) caught calling a reporter a slut and whore for wearing a dress on air:





This video is absolutely disgusting. Shows a bunch of guys in Yemen saying what they really think of women, as "a disgrace," and some of them say they would kill their sister if she ever went out, because that's something "only American women do." I really admire the little girl in this video though. :heart: Now somebody like her, SHE can stay. She seems open-minded and sharp and witty, she doesn't need to be around garbage like that.





Here we see a Christian Arab woman who was attacked physically for wearing a crucifix:





Can somebody who speaks Swedish translate this video? The title says that it is an interview with a Muslim man living in Sweden, and apparently he says that calling women whores in his culture is common:



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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23484862 - 07/28/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I doubt Germany is going to change its customs to "appease" the migrants.




They already are. They are sending letters telling parents to "cover up their daughters" when going to school, and they have even taken the cross off a church in one city so as not to "offend" the incoming refugees.

And with all the sexual molestation and attacks happening in gyms and bathrooms and saunas and pools, you really actually think they're going to continue doing the nude sauna tradition?!


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23484868 - 07/28/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I doubt Germany is going to change its customs to "appease" the migrants.



Well that's probably because you aren't following the situation at all.

Else you wouldn't make that comment.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23484871 - 07/28/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Progressives have fought so hard for equal rights for women and gays, and now they are flooding their countries with millions of people who despise and repress both, it's absolutely mind boggling they embrace such barbarism


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23484886 - 07/28/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What's amazing is that you give a shit about women and gays all of a sudden. You support a guy who praises the leadership of Putin, someone who has done more harm to gay people than the entire religion of Islam.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23484893 - 07/28/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What's amazing is that you give a shit about women and gays all of a sudden. You support a guy who praises the leadership of Putin, someone who has done more harm to gay people than the entire religion of Islam.




Who are you talking about? Trump? I don't support that guy.

I'm pretty sure you're not talking to me, but I've always fought for women and gays. I was very active in the LGBT community, I was a volunteer at the gay and lesbian center, as well as numerous feminist organizations.

My primary concern is for women, which is why I'm generally tolerant of female Muslims, as I see them as victims of a barbaric practice, rather than the perpetrators. Muslim women are not the ones committing rapes and violent crimes.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23484900 - 07/28/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea but alot of them approve of honor killings.

Don't be so quick to think they haven't soaked up the ideology as well.(not that you said that)


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Apostle]
    #23484911 - 07/28/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea but alot of them approve of honor killings.

Don't be so quick to think they haven't soaked up the ideology as well.(not that you said that)




Women are almost always the victims of honor killings, they are basically bullied into covering up their head and body, if they don't they are called whores or possibly beaten, so they are the victims here.

This is classic female subjugation under the guise of religion. Why would liberals ever support a patriarchal ideology that only serves to put men in extreme power?

I'm sure if only female refugees were accepted into Europe, the country would have almost ZERO violent crimes related to them.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23484918 - 07/28/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What's amazing is that you give a shit about women and gays all of a sudden. You support a guy who praises the leadership of Putin, someone who has done more harm to gay people than the entire religion of Islam.




Who are you talking about? Trump? I don't support that guy.

I'm pretty sure you're not talking to me, but I've always fought for women and gays. I was very active in the LGBT community, I was a volunteer at the gay and lesbian center, as well as numerous feminist organizations.

My primary concern is for women, which is why I'm generally tolerant of female Muslims, as I see them as victims of a barbaric practice, rather than the perpetrators. Muslim women are not the ones committing rapes and violent crimes.




I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the hypocrite who thinks that gays should support Donald trump, despite the anti-gay rhetoric of the republican platform.

Trump is now praising a dictator who has led a pogrom of terror against gay people for years


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Crystal G]
    #23484937 - 07/28/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Oberhausen apparently has taken in close to 25% of the refugee population. According to this chart, Bavaria and Oberhausen have taken in the most refugees.



Oberhausen is a city what you mean is probably "north rhine westphalia". The reason why so many refugees are in this state is because it has the highest population (17 mil). That picture is a bad bit outdated tho. Heres a more recent one :



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I am certain there is crime, you just don't know about it. Apparently the police are refusing to go public about crimes committed by refugees.

But here, you're German. Surely you can read this (I actually use Google translate to read Swedish and German publications that don't make it to the states or get translated in English): http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2069675-13-jaehriges-Maedchen-aus-Asien-von-Landsmann-missbraucht-Verdaechtiger-in-U-Haft-Polizei-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-Im-Fluechtlingsheim-vergewaltigt-Oeffentlichkeit-soll-nichts-erfahren



This link actually has a followup :
http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2070694-Kripo-Lippe-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-ueber-die-Vergewaltigung-eines-Maedchens-14-in-einem-Fluechtlingsheim-Opferschutz-hat-Prioritaet

I cant be assed to translate all of it but it pretty much says that the police holds back information when sexual crimes happen to protect the victim. Thats their standard protocol when it comes to things like that.

The german ministry of crime (dont know if translation is accurate) has released a report on crimes commited by refugees and the conclusion is that a majority of refugees arent criminal:
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Kurzmeldungen/lageuebersicht-kriminalitaet-kontext-zuwanderung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile


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