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XUL
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Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" 1
#23465381 - 07/22/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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For the sake of this web-argument, in my friends favor, I will vouch for him and tell everybody that he is a good person, and most likely did not do it -- although I was not personally there. Yet, nobody was there.
My friend and I work at the same factory. Today he was using the restroom and upon entering and exiting there was a pile of feces on the floor. My friend proceeded to use the bathroom and then exited. Some time later safety management was called and my friend was blamed due to the janitor's accusations that he was the last one out of the bathroom before the feces were found. *please note: both janitors are women and cannot enter the bathroom unless closing off the door.
After being accused my friend simply explained that it was not him. The safety officials proceeded to flush the feces down the toilet. The floor manager wanted to fire my friend, while his temp agency manager did not want to fire him. Instead they sent him home and told him to call his temp agency.
Without a doubt, this scenario seems very questionable. 1.) They did not have actual evidence as to who released there bowels onto the floor. 2.) They did not save or identify the feces in order to find a valid answer. 3.) Every piece of evidence against my friend is essentially hearsay.
My question: what actions can my friend take in order to remedy the situation?
Any advice would be useful.
We are going to look up the labor laws in the state; we are going to use logic and facts to argue his case; and lastly, if it goes this far, we are going to contact a representative from the state, find a lawyer and sue.
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Edited by XUL (07/22/16 09:42 AM)
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Patlal
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: XUL]
#23465391 - 07/22/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Man, I've been elbow deep in other's people shit to unclog toilets in my house... If they an't pick up a turd with a shivel and flush without bitching, they're assholes.
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sanchothestoner
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: Patlal]
#23465408 - 07/22/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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who pooped the bed?
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ReposadoXochipilli
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: sanchothestoner] 1
#23465443 - 07/22/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i can't see how they can legally do this without proof, him being the last one seen leaving does not prove anything.
all in all a silly shitty situation, who shits on the floor when there is a toilet right there in the designated room for that purpose.
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Morel Guy
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Unless there is a contract they can fire without any reason.
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Shroomslip
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: Morel Guy]
#23465471 - 07/22/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not entirely true. They can't fire him because he's gay or black for instance. I'm not sure where "shit on the floor" falls under the at will policy. I kinda wanna say they need to have proof but I feel safer saying they aren't obligated to actually prove it.
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SirShroomsAlott
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Quote:
ReposadoXochipilli said: i can't see how they can legally do this without proof, him being the last one seen leaving does not prove anything.
all in all a silly shitty situation, who shits on the floor when there is a toilet right there in the designated room for that purpose.
You'd be surprised, worked at mcdonalds in my teens, at one point someone not only shit on the toilet seat instead of the toilet, but actually picked it up and smeared it across the walls and threw it at the ceiling....I almost got fired that day for refusing to clean it up.
That also wasn't the only time we found shit where it wasn't supposed to be.
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Shroomslip
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: SirShroomsAlott] 1
#23465515 - 07/22/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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People take revenge shits at stores and restaurants and the like. Like seriously my very first week working retail, some guy comes in, whips his dick out and starts pissing on the ATM in my store. The ATM is 3 steps from the front door and adjacent to the front cash registers. There were customers in line checking out when he did this.
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Konyap

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Yeah man you insult these h***'s and the first thing they do is smear shit on the walls
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SirShroomsAlott
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: Shroomslip]
#23465524 - 07/22/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I felt so bad too because they had an autistic girl who was very antisocial as the "lobby" person who basically just did all the janitorial work and she was always the one who had to pick it up and clean it, they basically made her do anything that no one else wanted to do
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Great Scott
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: XUL] 19
#23465534 - 07/22/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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MommaSmurf



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I would have definitely gotten fired that day if they told me to clean that up..
I worked at a supermarket in my teens and at least once a day an old person would come in and shit/piss his or herself. So the isles they went down would be dripping with piss and (sometimes) diarrhea dribble all over the floor.
Like FUCK if you can't hold your bowl movements wear a fucking diaper
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: MommaSmurf] 1
#23465560 - 07/22/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your friend is screwed and there is nothing you can do aside from speaking to management. Temp agencies hire you, not the place you're temping for. That's a big reason why factories and such like temps. As a temporary worker you expect to not stick around, that's common sense. Without a contract with the company you're directly labouring for, you inherit no right to a reason for dismissal. The labour board can do nothing about this, that is the terms for temporary and/or probationary work.
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: Great Scott]
#23465671 - 07/22/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
PeyoteZen said: This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
You nailed it, dude.
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danielx
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Quote:
XLCaps said: Your friend is screwed and there is nothing you can do aside from speaking to management. Temp agencies hire you, not the place you're temping for. That's a big reason why factories and such like temps. As a temporary worker you expect to not stick around, that's common sense. Without a contract with the company you're directly labouring for, you inherit no right to a reason for dismissal. The labour board can do nothing about this, that is the terms for temporary and/or probationary work.
I was about to post this. Exact reason temp work blows.
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: XUL] 9
#23465735 - 07/22/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Always love me a good poop on the floor at work story
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: danielx]
#23465754 - 07/22/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't believe OP is so worried about this shit terrible job? Is he a felon or something? Why is everyone so keen on blaming him? Do they think he's a jerk? If my place of employment tried to fire me for taking a dump on the floor when I didn't then I would quit anyway.
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SirShroomsAlott
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: Hippocampus] 2
#23465760 - 07/22/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Id just take a dump on the floor if i got fired when i didnt take a dump on the floor
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XUL
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: Hippocampus]
#23465772 - 07/22/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The job is important to him because our entire house works there. But I think he will find work elsewhere.
I have been searching other sources to I and the answer seems to be the same. Oh well.
Wrong place, wrong time. Bad luck.
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Re: Friend fired for "pooping on the floor" [Re: XUL] 2
#23465827 - 07/22/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The twist to the story.
It was actually XUL that pooped on the floor.
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