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Mould or bruising?
    #23464859 - 07/22/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Seems to be on the end of a few grains but as its first time with grains I'm unsure what this is. If someone could let me know. I have isolated the jars from the others and will bin as soon as I find out.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466107 - 07/22/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

looks okay to me, id keep them going. imput from someone else is probabaly a good idea though. :shrug:


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: stackzilla]
    #23466135 - 07/22/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

shake it and see how it recovers.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23466192 - 07/22/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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shake it and see how it recovers.



Already shook twice to get to this point. Recovered both times


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466338 - 07/22/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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shake it and see how it recovers.



Already shook twice to get to this point. Recovered both times



Looks bacterial. I see the first signs of the mycelium reacting to bacteria, which is those long strands extending out from previously colonized grains.

Also if u shook twice and still have that big of an uncolonized patch... chances are high for bacteria. Shaking should produce even colonization, without big patches like that.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23466502 - 07/22/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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shake it and see how it recovers.



Already shook twice to get to this point. Recovered both times



Looks bacterial. I see the first signs of the mycelium reacting to bacteria, which is those long strands extending out from previously colonized grains.

Also if u shook twice and still have that big of an uncolonized patch... chances are high for bacteria. Shaking should produce even colonization, without big patches like that.




For the bin you think ?


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466554 - 07/22/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Depends. Are you one of those people that will go through a lot of trouble for just a few shrooms? Try a dryer prep.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23466590 - 07/22/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nah not fussed got loads more jars on the go. That is hawain cubes and the agar got infected plus now it looks like the grains are bacterial, my Ecuador MS however is doing great after G2G.
What is dryer prep?


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466600 - 07/22/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know how you prep your grains. But something that might help is to lower the moisture content of the finished grains by altering your process to achieve this. You will have to figure that part out, as you know your process and I do not.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23466604 - 07/22/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

looks more like a case of dirty inoculant to me. bacteria wouldn't be my main concern with such whispy weak mycelium. I suspect mold too.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23466611 - 07/22/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't know how you prep your grains. But something that might help is to lower the moisture content of the finished grains by altering your process to achieve this. You will have to figure that part out, as you know your process and I do not.



The grains in the jars pictured were too dry to start with. I soaked longer with my second batch and achieved a more adequate moisture level. They are rocking along while these were very slow and whispy...


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466629 - 07/22/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If your grain prep is on, thenkeep trucking. Sometimes this just happens. No big deal. Happened to me on my last jars and I've been prepping the same way since time began.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23466646 - 07/22/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is second transfer of hawain. This may be bacterial also. is there anyway of transferring this out?


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466658 - 07/22/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Of course. Take a very small section from a leading edge that looks clean.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23466677 - 07/22/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

some parts of the stuff right below your agar wedge looks OK but the pic/lighting is kinda crappy so :shrug:
I really dont like the stuff growing up top on that pic.

and what you mean "hawain"? cubensis I pressume?


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23466725 - 07/22/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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some parts of the stuff right below your agar wedge looks OK but the pic/lighting is kinda crappy so :shrug:
I really dont like the stuff growing up top on that pic.

and what you mean "hawain"? cubensis I pressume?



Only got iPhone 6 to take pics with. No digi cam unfortunately. Hawain cubes I meant to say mate.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466726 - 07/22/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just wondering if I should bin agar and that jar of grain?


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466736 - 07/22/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shake the jar and see how it recovers :shrug:

I would take a transfer from anywhere along the red line I drew on your pic, far away from the sketchy (possible) satelite contams



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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23466826 - 07/22/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Shake the jar and see how it recovers :shrug:

I would take a transfer from anywhere along the red line I drew on your pic, far away from the sketchy (possible) satelite contams





If it recovers and smells of healthy myc will it be good to spawn?
Thanks for taking time to show me where to take a good transfer. In making a fair load of plates tomorrow so will do that.


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466852 - 07/22/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

no, if it looks healthy DURING recovery, not after, and is 100% done in 24-48hrs its good. most likely. but I have serious doubts :shrug: only 1 way to find out!


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23466873 - 07/22/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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no, if it looks healthy DURING recovery, not after, and is 100% done in 24-48hrs its good. most likely. but I have serious doubts :shrug: only 1 way to find out!



Given good shake will report back with pics. Cheers bro


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Re: Mould or bruising? [Re: Psykronik]
    #23466888 - 07/22/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:

take a pic when the grains start fuzzing up again, that's when its the most visible IMO, when its all white its harder to tell.


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