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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: 404]
    #23463143 - 07/21/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That has nothing to do with the chemtrail theories, however.  Testing a technology is a whole different thing from the widespread spraying of chemicals over the U.S.  There is zero evidence of the latter.


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #23463151 - 07/21/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The practice isn't.  The "chemtrail" nonsense is about the claim that persistent contrails in the air are part of a government spraying program.  Nothing in that video supports that claim.




What is your definition of "government spraying program?" Because Cloud Seeding is an established practice and has been for years.

I am sure they have at least researched and experimented with some related technologies for a variety of purposes :shrug;


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: musiclover420]
    #23463164 - 07/21/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cloud seeding isn't what chemtrail theorists are talking about, though.  Chemtrail theorists claim that the government is spraying chemicals over the U.S. and that persistent contrails are actually the spraying taking place.



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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: Enlil]
    #23463176 - 07/21/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Stratospheric Aerosol Injection = 'chemtrail'

the term 'chemtrail' is just the colloquial term given by the public to the practice that's suspected to exist, that now is confirmed to be a real concept in Geoengineering - a project that ... actually exists. Why are you having such a hard time with this? It's not some crazy conspiracy that climate change is happening and that governments all over are likely looking for ways to combat this problem.

Another add-on to this project will likely come in the form of 'Carbon-engineering' where carbon is actively taken out of the atmosphere via fans and filters... that technology also exists and is being currently investigated for efficacy in it's implementation.

I made no such claim that these projects or technologies were in any way, shape, form, or fashion attempts by the government to control the minds of the masses or even poison them.


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA (moved) [Re: 404] * 4
    #23463180 - 07/21/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: 404]
    #23463188 - 07/21/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If anything when it comes to toxins and chem trails my main concern lies not in some nefarious plot to poison the general population but the concern that while researching cloud seeding and related practices things may get sprayed that shouldn't and could have a widespread negative impact. Either directly or down the line once time has allowed such things to build up and or degrade into dangerous levels of metals heavy metals and who knows what else.


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: 404]
    #23463251 - 07/21/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Basically confirming what I've been reading for the past few years, it is part of a larger process called "Geoengineering" and the exact process is referred to as "Stratospheric Aerosol Injection"

It's part of a project allegedly to fight global warming.


see for yourself.





I thought this was well known by now... it's still not "chemtrails" in the sense that the U.S. gov is deliberately and maliciously poisoning its own people to keep them docile, but it is controversial for other reasons. It's done to ease the impact of global warming, which is probably a good idea, though I've heard mixed messages on exactly how safe it is...


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: 404] * 2
    #23463277 - 07/21/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Geoengineering is now humanities only hope of survival.

We have fatally damaged global ecological systems and only radical Geoenginerering can possibly save us from extinction as a consequence.

Assuming it works and we do it right. At this point we have no choice but to try.

The military is well aware of the looming Eco apocalypse and I can only hope there massive budget and secret projects will include some new technologies that can save us from the consequences of ecological tipping points we have blown past in the past two hundred years .


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: demiu5]
    #23463329 - 07/21/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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404 is hearing what he wants to hear. Brennan doesn't say we are spraying anything.

Chemtrail believers think that discussing potential technologies means we have been doing it for 25 years. It really is the most pathetic conspiracy theory of them all because it reeks of scientific illiteracy





i'm sorry, but the PNW is ground zero for this.  years of soil samples showing ever-increasing rates of barium and aluminum.  i have multiple friends whose blood tests over the last 3 years show ever-increasing levels of barium/aluminum


i've seen rain-storms dissipate after 10+ trails were sprayed within an hours time



come check it out, brah



fyi, i'm not a conspiracy theorist, by any means



Yeah you are.

Soil is literally made of aluminum, so I have a hard Time believing your claim about that


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23463351 - 07/21/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Basically confirming what I've been reading for the past few years, it is part of a larger process called "Geoengineering" and the exact process is referred to as "Stratospheric Aerosol Injection"

It's part of a project allegedly to fight global warming.


see for yourself.





I thought this was well known by now... it's still not "chemtrails" in the sense that the U.S. gov is deliberately and maliciously poisoning its own people to keep them docile, but it is controversial for other reasons. It's done to ease the impact of global warming, which is probably a good idea, though I've heard mixed messages on exactly how safe it is...




Well it would decrease the amount of sunlight that reaches the earth. It could have implications for agriculture.


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: koods] * 1
    #23463362 - 07/21/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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other add-on to this project will likely come in the form of 'Carbon-engineering' where carbon is actively taken out of the atmosphere via fans and filters... that technology also exists and is being currently investigated for efficacy in it's implementation.




You can scrub CO2 out of the air using hydroxides. The problem with this technology is that hydroxides are made from carbonates and to make them releases CO2 into the environment.


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: koods]
    #23463371 - 07/21/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

D'oh!


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: Enlil]
    #23463376 - 07/21/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That has nothing to do with the chemtrail theories, however.  Testing a technology is a whole different thing from the widespread spraying of chemicals over the U.S.  There is zero evidence of the latter.



I seriously doubt they've tested this stratospheric injection thing either. It's not exactly somethjng that you can test on a small scale. It's theoretical based on data from natural stratospheric injections of sulfur dioxide during volcanic eruptions


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: koods]
    #23463413 - 07/21/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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404 is hearing what he wants to hear. Brennan doesn't say we are spraying anything.

Chemtrail believers think that discussing potential technologies means we have been doing it for 25 years. It really is the most pathetic conspiracy theory of them all because it reeks of scientific illiteracy





i'm sorry, but the PNW is ground zero for this.  years of soil samples showing ever-increasing rates of barium and aluminum.  i have multiple friends whose blood tests over the last 3 years show ever-increasing levels of barium/aluminum


i've seen rain-storms dissipate after 10+ trails were sprayed within an hours time



come check it out, brah



fyi, i'm not a conspiracy theorist, by any means



Yeah you are.

Soil is literally made of aluminum, so I have a hard Time believing your claim about that





soil is made up of a composition of minerals, carbon, and organisms


while aluminum is included, it is false to say soil is made of aluminun


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: demiu5] * 3
    #23463486 - 07/21/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How is that false? Aluminum makes up 8% of the earths crust by weight. It is ubiquitous in the environment. In a one acre field six inches deep, there is about 150,000 pounds of aluminum, in various forms (mainly aluminum oxide and aluminum-silicon oxides)


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: koods]
    #23463605 - 07/21/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I imagine that volcanic activity in the PNW might have something to do with increasing aluminium in the soil. Could be wrong though.


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: koods]
    #23463614 - 07/21/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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other add-on to this project will likely come in the form of 'Carbon-engineering' where carbon is actively taken out of the atmosphere via fans and filters... that technology also exists and is being currently investigated for efficacy in it's implementation.




You can scrub CO2 out of the air using hydroxides. The problem with this technology is that hydroxides are made from carbonates and to make them releases CO2 into the environment.





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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: 404]
    #23463656 - 07/21/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I am completely ignorant to Chem trails. "Assuming they're real" What are they exactly and why should I be angry about them?


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #23465453 - 07/22/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Enlil how can you assume to know everyone's take on chemtrails? I've always thought they are a weather modification attempt nothing more. The weak minded ones who fell for the lizard disinfo is very few and far between. It's just more assumptions on your part in a weak attempt to discredit the truth


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Re: 'Chemtrails' are real - confirmed by John Brennan, Director of the CIA [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23465641 - 07/22/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I imagine that volcanic activity in the PNW might have something to do with increasing aluminium in the soil. Could be wrong though.



Soil is made of primarily of aluminum, silicon, oxygen, carbon,and iron. There is no increasing level of aluminum in the soil because it is already the one of the most prevalent elements in soil. There's 96 MILLION POUNDS of aluminum per square mile of earth (six inches deep) you think somebody could ever spray any in the air that would significantly increase the already natural prevalence?


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