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(Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass
    #23462546 - 07/21/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Guys your inputs on this will be very much appreciated.
These BRF cakes are in the works for 3rd week now. The myc looks healthy with no visible signs of contams & smells neutral. However, it seems the myc is so fluffy and is growing into space between the BRF cake and inner glass wall. Is this normal ? Is there a reason to TOSS It ;-).

The reason might be that the BRF substrate is extremely loosely packed and as the myc grows the cake shrinks and creates a space between cake and inner wall. The myc is attempting fill the gap by growing into it. But thats just a theory and It would be great to hear your views.











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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d]
    #23462561 - 07/21/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

its telling you, that it desperately wants to fruit


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: SpinScratch]
    #23462564 - 07/21/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

looks like hyphal knots. precursor to pins. time to dunk n roll

did colonization stall? are your jars fully colonized?


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: locallorax]
    #23462597 - 07/21/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Colonization is not complete. Estimated time 2 more days to complete the colonization. The bottom 10% or so substrate is not colonized at all.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d] * 1
    #23462603 - 07/21/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cause they're wet af on the bottom, and the bordered mycelium on the bottom is an indication of bacteria present. What was your recipe?

Also the big thick growths happening don't look good IMO. Hard to say what it could be until you birth them, but definitely nothing desirable. My guess is mycelial reaction to linear bacteria, but there's many other things that do that kinda shit.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d]
    #23462617 - 07/21/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23462653 - 07/21/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Went through the post that you suggested. Its possible that FAE is the culprit. For the container were kept in a dark locked room with closed windows and doors. And this thing started happening into the second week. Changed the location to an appropriately aerated location. Let's see if that changes anything.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d]
    #23462700 - 07/21/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

ill bet u $20 its contaminated


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d]
    #23462816 - 07/21/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Went through the post that you suggested. Its possible that FAE is the culprit. For the container were kept in a dark locked room with closed windows and doors. And this thing started happening into the second week. Changed the location to an appropriately aerated location. Let's see if that changes anything.





you dont need FAE during colonization.. you need to do a lot more research and try again, while following the tek to the "T". those look pretty fucked.

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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: mupetmower]
    #23462882 - 07/21/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you dont need FAE during colonization.. you need to do a lot more research and try again, while following the tek to the "T". those look pretty fucked.

Exactly, only thing to do for you now those are definitly not normal pics but intresting none the less
To the contamination forum you go


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: SpinScratch]
    #23465584 - 07/22/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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ill bet u $20 its contaminated




This.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: SpinScratch]
    #23465596 - 07/22/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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its telling you, that it desperately wants to fruit



but i though it was trying to fruit :awehigh:


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d]
    #23465604 - 07/22/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bacteria and/or other contaminates. The barrier of resistance at the bottom is indicative of contamination, because the two cultures are fighting for supremacy.

I would birth it now, remove any uncolonized substrate by rinsing it off in a sink, dunk and roll, then fruit.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23465667 - 07/22/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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its telling you, that it desperately wants to fruit



but i though it was trying to fruit :awehigh:



Both can be true


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: SpinScratch]
    #23466086 - 07/22/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

am i the only person who sees pinkish orangish shit inside of these jars?
edit- is it maybe a reflection on the glass?:shrug:


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: stackzilla]
    #23466094 - 07/22/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You mean the metabolites and the thick border where the mycelium is competing with bacteria? Yeah. If it was a mold it would look more granular/fuzzy. That is just typical thick af, rubbery bacterial mycelium putting out metabolites to try to fight it.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: stackzilla]
    #23466101 - 07/22/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i think the pink/orange may mostly be because of the type of jar/glass plus the background and stuff around in the pic.

either way, they are bacterial.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d]
    #23517919 - 08/07/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

From this.. 

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Dare2d said:









We have this



Which led to this



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ill bet u $20 its contaminated




Now I guess somebody on this thread owes me nice crisp bill of Dolla 20.

After further research and reading, it seems to me that the fluffy growth in between the glass and the cakes is "Storma".


Edited by Dare2d (08/07/16 06:23 AM)


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Dare2d]
    #23518063 - 08/07/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

just because you got fruits doesnt mean it wasnt bacterial/contaminated... so nobody owes you anything.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: mupetmower]
    #23518105 - 08/07/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Now I guess somebody on this thread owes me nice crisp bill of Dolla 20.

After further research and reading, it seems to me that the fluffy growth in between the glass and the cakes is "Storma".



You do realize we recommended you to birth bacterial cakes because there's a chance it would fruit. Competent growers said to birth it for a reason.. All this proves is bacterial cakes can fruit...

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Bacteria and/or other contaminates. The barrier of resistance at the bottom is indicative of contamination, because the two cultures are fighting for supremacy.

I would birth it now, remove any uncolonized substrate by rinsing it off in a sink, dunk and roll, then fruit.




That is DEFINITELY not stroma. Stroma looks like a pin blob, not thick cottony mycelium.

< stroma.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Mad Season]
    #23518137 - 08/07/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid: look at that thick white myc oozing out from the verm layer. It that isn't bacterial I don't know what is!

Congratulations on the fruit, just wait until you get some clean jars and you're going to notice a big difference at harvest time :grin:


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Bunji Fungi]
    #23518256 - 08/07/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You fruited bacterial cakes.  Nothing special about that.    Notice how your yields kinda suck?  Bacteria.  At the end of the 1st flush or middle of the 2nd, this will be abundantly clear to you.  All your mushrooms will stop growing, your pins will become aborts, and your sub will become as good as dirt.

You need to figure out where your contamination vector was, whether it was in your sterile tek, or the much more likely scenario, in your brf mix already and you failed to kill it.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: Mushierage]
    #23518746 - 08/07/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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At the end of the 1st flush or middle of the 2nd, this will be abundantly clear to you.  All your mushrooms will stop growing, your pins will become aborts, and your sub will become as good as dirt.

You need to figure out where your contamination vector was, whether it was in your sterile tek, or the much more likely scenario, in your brf mix already and you failed to kill it.




:lolwut:

none of this makes any sense dude...
bacterial cakes doesnt halt mushroom growth nor induce aborting.
and sterilizing brf cakes is too simple for it to be a contam vector.


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Re: (Pics) Myc growing into space between cake and glass [Re: spacechildo]
    #23524771 - 08/09/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Now I guess somebody on this thread owes me nice crisp bill of Dolla 20.

After further research and reading, it seems to me that the fluffy growth in between the glass and the cakes is "Storma".



I have an oyster straw log with green spots all over it and smells like shit from bacteria and its still fruiting. Fruits dont mean theres no contamination... besides, you never confirmed the bet :laugh:


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