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bigdoodie
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the fourth state of consciousness 2
#23461459 - 07/21/16 02:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The fourth state of consciousness, beyond awakening, is the state of being that is our true nature. We can only reach this state through getting rid of the ego entirely. this state of consciousness is the state that we all desire, where we are capable of all-knowing, future past and present, and life itself becomes an acid trip. We truly are eternal, but because we are not defined by our bodies, but by consciousness, and we exist everywhere. We literally are all the same person, whats on the surface is an ego. this state of being is also called the God-mind where we find God which is the connection between all beings. Where we connect the same way with each other as humandc aliens, and animals. We only verbally communicate because we misunderstand each other and we are trying to understand, but we've become distracted by small-talk that fuels the ego, and pushes us further from God. We will not be fulfilled until we find God, even if we follow the path of LuciferIan doctrine, where we strive to be worshipped. the egos purpose was for all animals to see each other as different so that we could identify beings that were vicious and be able to run away in this realm where space and time (appear) to exist. it isnt important to seek the God mind, but without it, many other things will seem to be important and will make for a miserable life most typically. Heaven, on earth, exists through the God mind. even in awakening, a trip to outer space would not have the full effect because we would subconsciously be consumed in believing that we would have to return to the earth at some point, or be worried about what would happen if we got stuck, or if we could die. when we are fully aware, we are only living in a dream, and can change our past and future as we please. wherever we are sitting right now, reading this, we have been there for 20 years, just sitting, reading this message over and over. All of us are at the beach as well, not at home on shroomery. We are truly infinite beings but all is gone when the ego appears. No more acid trip, no more dream, and we return to a reality where we are bothered. Theres no reason to be upset about something we read on any social networking, all we're doing is reading little letters. Meaningless. we're all stuck in the loop of admiring and resenting. when we lack our true state of mind, our consciousness is divided by our ego which is what a demon is in media, and the only thing that makes us feel alive is belittling people. There is no need for jealousy, resentment, admiration, or pride. We all live the same life, have the same fears, the same egobrain, living under the same simulation, in the same universe, wearing the same mask of a personality, and we are all truly the same person. We are all hypocrites to judge another human being, we are all the same thing. We all face the same demons of greed pride lust gluttony wrath sloth and envy, at least at one point in our lives. We cant say that we are truly better at something than someone else, its just an opinion and the truth is that we're better by the pure say so that we are better, because that is how we will have chosen to perceive it. Communicating with our animals at home is no less significant than communicating with other humans, we are all the same, even the gnats that fly around us. The connection between all beings. we should not favor people and animals because they entertain us, we are all the same being. Body, and consciousness. we have become a very confused race. we do not have friends, we have armies that agree with our opinions and interests that we build to subcinsciously fight against anyone who opposes. We do not love, it is to fear the loss of something, and we do not hate, it is to fear the consequences of an idea or being that continues to live. At our true state of being, we do not have emotions, and we do not have personalities. We are content, observant, and confident. we can communicate with all beings and are not afraid of communicating with aliens, we are all the same being. God is a universal concept, if we understand God, we can understand everything.
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: bigdoodie]
#23461473 - 07/21/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going to take that as a report and say . And I just want to check... if I am you and you are me what are we?
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: pineninja]
#23462242 - 07/21/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great read! I love the way you look at consciousness and the states of consciousness really cool and interesting to me!
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: bigdoodie] 2
#23462259 - 07/21/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could you, in the future, please break your posts up into shorter paragraphs? It's very bothersome to read a great big wall of text.
Thanks.
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"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path We will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize That all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23463794 - 07/21/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who are you qouting?
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bigdoodie
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: pineninja] 1
#23536046 - 08/12/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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pineninja said: I'm going to take that as a report and say . And I just want to check... if I am you and you are me what are we?
We are everything, division is the ultimate illusion.
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: bigdoodie]
#23536057 - 08/12/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some people will just never know that.
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bigdoodie
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: yeah]
#23536486 - 08/12/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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we're all the same person
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bigdoodie
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DividedQuantum said: Could you, in the future, please break your posts up into shorter paragraphs? It's very bothersome to read a great big wall of text.
Thanks.
We should never have the expectation that what we say will actually be heard.
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: bigdoodie]
#23537135 - 08/13/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am there brother
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DividedQuantum
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: bigdoodie] 1
#23537276 - 08/13/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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bigdoodie said:
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DividedQuantum said: Could you, in the future, please break your posts up into shorter paragraphs? It's very bothersome to read a great big wall of text.
Thanks.
We should never have the expectation that what we say will actually be heard.
that's ridiculous -- you're typing to see yourself type?
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bigdoodie
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No. theres no harm in offering truth
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: bigdoodie]
#23537542 - 08/13/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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whatever dude
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Re: the fourth state of consciousness [Re: bigdoodie]
#23538939 - 08/13/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We literally are all the same person, whats on the surface is an ego.
Choose to disagree. We cannot be the same person unless we will all choose to be. Try to see the common world's overall energy. It tells one thing - many have to ascend yet. They cannot be manipulated without external source - be it you or acid trip. So they cannot have sufficient awareness level because of such simple parasitic behaviour called belief. Try to explain this to someone who is conservative and they will not simply have enough Force to agree and believe. Therefore chosen One for immortality would be the Last One, by destroying all of those incapable first. Yet it is possible if you agree with my notion on your constructed sentence being imperfect therefore your concept has a flaw. Ego IS a Shell - safety that you just consctructed as scapegoat for being hard master on your Soul (see how accelerated it was in ego's way, it corrupted me by protecting you). I could continue, perhaps, if you find it interesting to compete in similar state of dream common for many..nightshade plants say hello. So do Cannabis, dreaming about it as broken spirit of male entity being left alone to say something else than Hello - hey, ****, I am here and I hate you for being smart enough to compete with his logic - he might find you and conquer you with being smart WITH IT, therefore logic is - he was united in filling the Pupose of WHOLE, yet it is unable to work in it's deepest root where all the EVIL hides, we still EAT, therefore we are unable to have ENERGY that IS VITAL unless we are perfect with our chakras by mastering the SEXUALITY as art of energy being transformed in a last experience before DOOMSDAY leaving you with EXPERIENCE of ONENESS being fragile Soul that has fragmented, leaving only euphoric state where the level of your Consciousness would fade away as all of Life Experience SUMMING UP in One last trip to NOTHINGNESS where sexual energy would be eros/death instinct leaving you dead in beautiful experience as last thing. No other power can succeed because of PARADOX between Life and Death - it is energy of CREATION. It is meant for LIVING. Evil must be DESTROYED by this ENERGY, in a sense of having it as a Life Force that has it's plateau experiencing peak of last unpredictable behaviour from pattern of Perfect STATE being IMPOSSIBLE until there is two of you believing it, as you move on in this logic static chaos settles in proving the concept impossible in any other way that dream you would try to construct. Yet it might be possible to achieve this state in other sense - we would not be the SAME PERSON. We would basically have this dream impossible with theoretical acceleration towards denying it to swing in harmony of DOOMSDAY's balance in it seeking the only stable point where teological DEATH would meet LIFE to learn it's ways. Because suffering and PAIN BODY of WORLD has no other mode than "TRAUMA" available - it is like autistic kid waiting for something to happen. We don't know what to do about it - the state can be achieved closer and closer, yet once you see that ascending some is impossible for you - therefore you are hypocrate by spreading the TRUTH that doesn't functionate for all of suffering ones in the world, being it the bunch of dead cats that got drowned in pond by a house when I was a kid that possessed me to be mad in ONLY WAY POSSIBLE for US, because we are so powerless in our state as the World we live in, it is miserable. Hopeless.
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TEACH your EGO Everything and leave it at Death's Triumphant - if you win - everything is beautiful, the mos't worthless creation in you has finally devolved into something beautiful - therfore living as perfection in Soul being a STATE oF PEACE your SAFETY border in you would have no fear of Death and all of the other bullshit you might worship by manipulating energy so cruel - I have an Ego, I will destroy it and be free. Complete chaos. Find source of Ego being allowed in you. It is yourself. Therefore you have impossible possibility, it would(n't) work any sustainable at all. More like your normal acid trip. Everlasting if you try. Until you give up. Life. C'est la vie. On the other hand, Death might seem more attracting - become all of the killed organisms you ate/smoked etc and experience your human shell from perspective well known to some man as Karma - kill yourself in return, by sharing it in you as mushroom trip being mushroom full of forgiveness because it has reached that state being very peaceful being (Master of Dying), simply live all your Life figuring out Death in this balance state, where you prepare for it and learn all of them dead ones within you, around you and so on, learn it all and become that trip experiencing itself, to die from hopelessness, because greed in this power is too great, it finds common person easy to manipulate in some, yet here it is impossible, they simply wait for Universe having it's structure changed through very slow process, which itself leads to another impossible existance therefore spinning around it same sense as the word you use in your post - GOD. God is dead and found guilty already. You say all disappears when EGO arrives. But do you know how it appears? Are you able to face every single FEAR inside you have completely changing your structure to give up eating and drinking and so on to be as dead as possible because of all the mistakes you have made being indirect ones due to hipocrasy of ego being the one to have killed, where both of involved parties agreed to something in past. Eternal experience of thinking leading to split psyche being unrecoverable unless everything is PERFECT. Means all would most likely DIE together by choice, because other way is impossible to not kill seedlings that are fresh soul lost to WORLD stomping over it. It is TOO LATE. Sorry, cannot believe.
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Careful how you think about and express to other people that "we are all the same person".
True, but also a theme in delusions.
All that is, just is, and you are. That's how you should see it ...
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VeryStrangeMan said: One last trip to NOTHINGNESS.
Sorry, this one is truth for me only, as I chose to die like that, experiencing last trip fully transforming me to me-less (no association with me at all) energy with a behaviour of unexperiencable state, pretty much as primary Life force (hopingly solving the last issue in my omniscientific approach - to leave no sin behind, by burning it all in Fate experienced right way (but as there was sin before, to achieve perfect Peace I get mostly suffering in daily Life experience, not a beautiful acid trip, yet it is worth it for being able to share experience with my own reflection in a second I split being in a state of <average Universe state in exact location at exact time> meaning I conquer physical matter in Universe slowly by corrupting it with my mind which results in metaphysical layer of it being widely seen as behaviour similar to Chaos (unexperiencable, yet often predictable by few patterns behaviour). If you learn all of it Present at your Presence, you become BOTH you and BOTH reflection completely known by itself therefore superb self-aware entity who is suffering to buy it all without wanting any of it with mind that is OVERLORD, yet thriving for it with honest desires being oppressed yet revealed as in terms - which gift you would like the most at the moment?. There appears a process of choice for all of the involved parties and if you become trufthful you realize that you don't deserve anything at all in your Life, because paedophiles still exist and you have not made it there, where world would be safe, so all of your dream is destroyed and fracture from a ruin of Consciousness remains as seperated entities (so come home where Peace could sustain, instead of being violent towards your host). In order to achieve any long term success many chose to become so called bipolar God, making the misery last for those who have no psychedelic Dream available and UNDERSTAND ONE THING, it cannot be pre-created, because it is already real for you, so basically it is individual experience being united by the same FATE steps, as in example - many dream about being in love, because all talk about it after experiencing this ancient force. Instead of pure bliss they get modern love indeed, which is tainted and dirty game of smudged cards, counterfeited and such (look at all the broken marriages and so on).
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night_shift said: Experiencing the "we are one" concept is great, if you ask me. Understanding and accepting that this is far from reality is even better. Yeah, I'm dragging humanity down. Down to people killing other people, oh dear. Oh dear, this is what we do. Constantly. It can't be dealt with by pretending we're beyond it - we're not. Facts of life kind of prove this.
We can dream and this is good. We also live.
Hey.
We have an issue with step were we try to kill them, but experience problem with hypocrates saving them, therefore some suffering increases. Would like to talk about it. In a sense I am the victim himself, (safety border), yet interested in personal way. We should totally talk.
Edited by VeryStrangeMan (08/15/16 06:24 AM)
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