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Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets
    #23460390 - 07/20/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So I couldn't find much info, other than a post or two by RR saying that corn cobs will work. I'm still unable to get cheap wood pellets until winter.  I will do some experimenting and post here once I get my 55 gallon steam sterilizer up and running (thanks for the video Gr0wer!). You guys have any thoughts or anyone done this? I imagine I could supplement like sawdust. Here's the cob pellets I'm looking at
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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23460886 - 07/20/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes you can use the corn cob to make your sub more airy or fluff it up. Oysters can grow on them straight but not super well . only tired once with them straight.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: tump]
    #23469605 - 07/23/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

why corn? why not straw?


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: anthiawe]
    #23470063 - 07/23/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Corn cob is cheaper


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: tump]
    #23470361 - 07/23/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm looking to do Shiitake in the same chamber. Straw will contaminate with the high RH. Also, straw is messy snd a pain, so the more I can switch to a sterilized sub, the better. And it's hard to find good sawdust in Florida. That's why I'm wondering about corn. I'll be picking some up in the next week and trying it out.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23484664 - 07/28/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just an update.
I've just inoculated a 6 lb block of supplemented Corn Cob pellets with 3015 Gray Oyster spawn. Last night while I was making the sub, I was very surprised to see how much this stuff expanded. It costs twice as much as fuel pellets, but when wet, it expands to almost twice as much as substrate as a similar amount of fuel pellets would. This bag has rice bran and alfalfa supplements. I'll update as it goes, whether it fails or succeeds.



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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23496774 - 07/31/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Dude I read in GGMM that there was evidence that oyster mushrooms grown on corn cobs could prevent tumors, lol, I know Stamets reputation for claims but I don't think that study was from him.
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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23496787 - 07/31/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cool!  I'm curious as to how the alfalfa/rice bran combo works.  I'm using alfalfa to supplement straw and wheat bran to supplement sawdust bags and might try a combo on sawdust if your results are promising. Also, have you tried sourcing sugarcane and peanut/soy bean byproducts?  I think Florida grows a lot of those things.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23497227 - 07/31/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: micelio]
    #23497540 - 08/01/16 02:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23497596 - 08/01/16 04:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have not tried to source peanut or sugarcane. No one seems to have soybean anything. I'll have to see what we have for growers of those around here. It seems like nobody grows anything near me. Lol

As for the corn cob, the mycelium is tearing it up. I did put a full jars worth of spawn in it, but it's really moving along. Ill post a pic when I go to fruit it. I've not heard about the preventing tumors study but that's pretty interesting!


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23497779 - 08/01/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The sugars help but the recipes is simple. Mix 2 40lb bales of straw ground/ cut with 60lbs of corn cob. Soak in water tub for 20 hours. Drain and rise off. Make it look clean. Pasturation for 1.5 hours. Mix with 1 to 8 spawn mix. Bag it in plastic bag. I use gallon size bread bags. Poke hole to have air and drain over the next day.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: tump]
    #23498149 - 08/01/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the recipe!


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: tump]
    #23498508 - 08/01/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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. Make it look clean. Pasturation for 1.5 hours. Mix with 1 to 8 spawn mix. Bag it in plastic bag. I use gallon size bread bags. Poke hole to have air and drain over the next day.




Can you clarify ? Are we talking a 1:8 part spawn ratio?


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23498543 - 08/01/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That would be 12.5% spawn which seems more than ample.  I've been spawning at 10% which seems like overkill.  I was just sitting here thinking I need to back it down to 5% for better utilization of spawn.  Especially considering that we're supplementing.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23498549 - 08/01/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Very interesting stuff, Any tuber formations?


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23498594 - 08/01/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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That would be 12.5% spawn which seems more than ample.  I've been spawning at 10% which seems like overkill.  I was just sitting here thinking I need to back it down to 5% for better utilization of spawn.  Especially considering that we're supplementing.




My thoughts exactly.... high spawn ratios are great if your just having fun but commercial production is a whole other ballgame and  spawning at anything more than 8% is time and money down the drain.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23499149 - 08/01/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I know I used roughly 10% and it was more than ample. I'll probably do 5% on my next one.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23521161 - 08/08/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Updating as promised. This is going into the fruiting chamber today. The bag colonized very quickly, but I waited a few extra days as there was one corner that was very slow, I don't know if it was extra compacted or what. The corn cob does seem to compact easily if you aren't too careful. Let's see how well it fruits!



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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23521222 - 08/08/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I was colonizing at 1:8 with my straw logs, unless short on spawn. many have noted a reduced yield with oysters when less spawn is used - mushroom adventures on youtube explains in a few videos. cool experimenting though!


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: anthiawe]
    #23522015 - 08/08/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Good job chef, I am super stoked to see this!


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23522086 - 08/08/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks! So am I! :thumbup:


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23554873 - 08/18/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've got some great clusters coming off of the corn cob pellets. I'll post pics tomorrow. I think I'm going to use a mixture of wood, bran and corn cob as my sub from now on. Straw is a pain (literally, I threw my back out lifting the wet crap) and tends to smell up the place once and a while.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23554890 - 08/18/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup: yeah agreed about the staw. Messy shit.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23556192 - 08/19/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here's the clusters. I messed up fruiting by trying to switch bags and such, so it over pinned a bit. The color is completely different than straw grown. They're almost blue. I'll update with cap formation as they go.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23556227 - 08/19/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Whoa; Beautiful blue!  I'd say they're enjoying the sub.  Nice experimenting, chefjrd!


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23556615 - 08/19/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23557748 - 08/19/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Must be rich in something, very interesting. Well done!


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: Ferather]
    #23557841 - 08/19/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks all! I'm concerned the caps won't be large with the stem size that's formed already. I've got plenty of fae as my other oysters are doing great. I'll keep it updated. I really can't believe how blue they are.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23558448 - 08/19/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My blues look like that when they pin. When harvest comes they are almost white. Wish they would keep the blue , maybe when it cools off.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: Quadman]
    #23562342 - 08/21/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Update! Here's a pic of what I harvested from the corn cob block.

And this is the cc cluster on the right compared to straw with some cc mixed in.

First flush from the cc weighs 14.85 oz. Not too bad. I wish they weren't as stemmy. I've got supplemented blocks going with 45% cc 40% wood and 15% supplement.


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23562364 - 08/21/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just found I missed a cluster that was on the sawdust that got mixed into the rest of the crop. It brings the total weight to just over a pound


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Re: Gray Oysters on Sterilized Corn Cob Pellets [Re: chefjrd]
    #23563159 - 08/21/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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