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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: nooneman]
    #23461662 - 07/21/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If my dog gets terminally ill I'm giving mushrooms to my dog in her final days without a doubt. Maybe opiates too.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23461692 - 07/21/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's common sense it'll scare them. Their minds aren't able to comprehend stuff like that. It's too complex and they don't need it as well.





what if they can comprehend it, they are intellegent and conscious too
i mean pandas get high willingly and i've heard of jaguars eating ayahuasca voluntarily, not saying he should give the dog shrooms but animals could potentially get similar experiences to those we do from these drugs


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #23461695 - 07/21/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



Apparently some dogs, cats and horses actively search for magic mushrooms and eat them.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
    #23461936 - 07/21/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm probably not going to do it because I don't want to risk any permanent harm



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You guys are right. I can't believe I even flirted with the idea.



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Don't worry guys, i'm not gonna do it.



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I already said I'm not  going to do it. It's not a crime to ask.




I hear you, and I think it's a pretty interesting topic. Ignore the people who will skip over your thoughtful posts so they can profess their own moral superiority with angry comments as if you've decided to torture your dog. 

Animals are probably more suited to deal with naturally growing mushrooms than humans. If humans never walked the earth, Magic shrooms would still have grown and been gobbled down by conscious creatures. Mother nature has it figured out.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman] * 1
    #23461995 - 07/21/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't worry guys, i'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna feed her CBD infused doggie treats instead. I heard CBD oil works very good for anxiety for dogs. And they aren't psychoactive, you just get all the health benefits without the high :thumbup:





This is a super cool idea to go with instead, man.

Props for showing that you really genuinely care about improving the life of the dog. Most people don't feel like animals are equivalent beings to humans.

Everybody on here is gonna flame you for thinking shrooms could have been a good idea, but you deserve recognition for trying to do the right thing.

90% of these hooligans are going to miss the post where you said you were going to go with CBD dog treats instead, and keep flaming you in the comments. Don't let it discourage you. Let us know how it works out with the dog, man.

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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23462045 - 07/21/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think people uderestimate what animals (especially dogs can handle). My dog will literally eat anything including other animals like frogs and insects etc. I think they're built to handle some pretty mad shit imo. Probably more than humans.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
    #23462065 - 07/21/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Giving shrooms to a dog....


Hmmmm...it could either go good or really bad!

I am an experimental person, so i would likely do it. Dosing would be tricky, start low!

And if the dog freaked out, then u should feel guilty. i know i would.

I mean, the dog is already tramatized, how more tramatized could it get?


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23462077 - 07/21/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I would be pretty terrified if I suddenly started tripping balls without understanding what's happening to me or even how. It might traumatize the animal even more. My cat has issues with stress and I found these collars at the store that helps mellow him out. It's supposed to smell like cat milk or sonething lol.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23462082 - 07/21/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think a micro dose is gonna do any harm at all. Goes without saying but you don't go and dose em up with an 8th or anything.... 0.5g or something like that.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23462090 - 07/21/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yah, i think a micro dose is the best bet.

Dont go full eight right out the gate.

Start very small like 0.1 grams, just to see what happens. Then increase the next day to 0.2 grams and so on...


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23462102 - 07/21/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I remember one time when my dog was still a pup, he found and tore into my wife's weed sack, eating Everything but the ziplock baggie. I've never laughed so hard in my life, I'm talking heavily sedated and chill, for an animal that normally acts like a muppet of meth.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23462107 - 07/21/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

And of course, give the dog choice.

Leave it out, let em sniff it and decide for themselves. That's not really abuse at all. I think there's possibility for benefit on like 0.1-0.5g in this way.

I'm very experimental and curious as a person. I do think a lot of our furry friends and love animals a lot. If I thought that would be harmful i'd never even think of it. But shrooms are naturally occurring and it's documented dogs eat them and have sought them.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #23462123 - 07/21/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I remember one time when my dog was still a pup, he found and tore into my wife's weed sack, eating Everything but the ziplock baggie. I've never laughed so hard in my life, I'm talking heavily sedated and chill, for an animal that normally acts like a muppet of meth.




That's mad. I mean if we eat weed out the bag it doesn't get us high does it. it needs to be baked in a lipid to make it orally active. But it works for dogs?


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23462133 - 07/21/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I dont think 0,1 - 0.5 is a microdose for a dog. That might be true for a human but not necessarily for a smaller animal. Especially because there can be huge weight differences between different dog breeds.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23462148 - 07/21/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

0.1g dry would equate to one fresh mushroom I believe. I believe the conversion is a factor of 10.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23462157 - 07/21/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That used to be my thought on things, when I'd feed my pets table scraps. If it's bad for them, they wont eat it. My cat, Moo Moo, loves raisins. He ate like ten pieces, but I found out they are toxic to cats and could kill them. My other one likes to lick coffee off the floor, and fresh bleach, and plastic. I try my best to keep them from these things, but they practically fight to eat them.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: Cherub]
    #23462189 - 07/21/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That used to be my thought on things, when I'd feed my pets table scraps. If it's bad for them, they wont eat it. My cat, Moo Moo, loves raisins. He ate like ten pieces, but I found out they are toxic to cats and could kill them. My other one likes to lick coffee off the floor, and fresh bleach, and plastic. I try my best to keep them from these things, but they practically fight to eat them.




Yep. My dog will eat anything. Literally. And she does it on her own accord with no prompting. Raisins I hear are bad for dogs too I think it can cause renal failure. My dog loves em. My dog also eats frogs, toads, slugs, snails and insects without a second thought. Some of these things in certain parts of the world are poisonous and psychoactive.


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23462216 - 07/21/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This dog found some mushrooms and had a good experience. I'm not saying to purposely give a dog shrooms, but maybe some actual research should go into this before shunning the idea...


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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: YeOlde]
    #23462347 - 07/21/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I remember one time when my dog was still a pup, he found and tore into my wife's weed sack, eating Everything but the ziplock baggie. I've never laughed so hard in my life, I'm talking heavily sedated and chill, for an animal that normally acts like a muppet of meth.




That's mad. I mean if we eat weed out the bag it doesn't get us high does it. it needs to be baked in a lipid to make it orally active. But it works for dogs?




I don't know the science behind it, I just know it happened. Here's a similar experience; note: This not my wife or my dog, just an example.



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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: SyzygisticSoul] * 1
    #23462945 - 07/21/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sound like a disaster.... or could be an immense benefit.

dose is a huge concern in this one.


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