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onepunchman
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Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. (UPDATE)
#23460388 - 07/20/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I recently adopted a senior dog from the shelter. Her estimated age is about 10-13 years old. She seems timid and fearful in general. And the person that works at the shelter told me it is likely that the dog has been abused. I recently read an article on the internet about a study they did with mice that were conditioned to have a fear response by receiving electric shocks. They used low-dose mushroom and the study showed that the mice who received low dose of mushrooms were able to overcome the fear. The study showed the potential of mushrooms to cure PTSD. Here is the link to the study.
http://www.naturalnews.com/041393_psilocybin_psychological_disorders_magic_mushrooms.html
So my question is, do you think its possible to give my dog a very low dose of mushrooms to help her overcome her fear and anxiety? If it worked on the mice, I don't see why it wouldn't work for a dog...
I'm probably not going to do it because I don't want to risk any permanent harm, but I want to know what others think about this. What if I gave her a low-dose and made sure the set and setting is comfortable for her. Do you think my dog can actually benefit from it?
(UPDATE): No I did not end up giving my dog shrooms. I gave her CBD treats from a company called Treatibles instead. It helped with her anxiety immensely and is 100% safe and actually very good for dogs. Highly recommend it for all pet lovers.
For all the people flaming me for even considering giving my dog shrooms, here's a link on reddit. Very similiar to my situation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/2juzvf/my_dog_loves_shrooms/
And for people saying that dogs can't comprehend the trip, that might be true or it might not be true. We will never know because we aren't dogs. But here's a study that shows dogs do have 5HT2A receptors, same as humans. I believe those are the same receptors that the mushrooms target. Even if dogs can't comprehend the experience, it does not mean they won't get the anti-anxiety benefits from shrooms. The mice benefited from it..
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19164223
Good day.
Edited by onepunchman (07/21/16 10:06 PM)
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Sheekle
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
#23460413 - 07/20/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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no don't give shrooms to fuckin dogs
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: Sheekle]
#23460435 - 07/20/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What the fuck...
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: SonicTitan]
#23460451 - 07/20/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There was a study showing that ancient humans use to feed their hunting dogs magic mushrooms to increase their senses for a better hunt.
Can't find it now, it was a good read.
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
#23460456 - 07/20/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I gave my opinion about a similar situation here.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23410559
The tone of the thread should answer your question.
Just be nice to the dog and love it, that's the only way to help an abused animal.
Edited by wigglewak (07/20/16 07:37 PM)
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: wigglewak]
#23460471 - 07/20/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: wigglewak]
#23460486 - 07/20/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
wigglewak said:
Just be nice to the dog and love it, that's the only way to help an abused animal.
exactly
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#23460489 - 07/20/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mmm... You could give it shrooms and i said COULD and I mean like 0.2-0.3 grams a week you could also grind a little weed up and put it in some wet food that worked for my gf's cat
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onepunchman
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: Teemo 6T3] 1
#23460491 - 07/20/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You guys are right. I can't believe I even flirted with the idea. After reading a couple of similiar threads about shrooms and dogs, I decided it IS a bad idea. I guess I didn't take into consideration that the dog has no choice or say in the matter and it would be frightening for them if they started experiencing an altered consciousness without knowing why. It's just sad to see her scared and anxious all the time :/
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
#23460561 - 07/20/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Imagine being a dog and have your owner give you mushrooms unknowingly. She'd probably have no idea what the fuck is going on.
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: psillyshrooms]
#23460631 - 07/20/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure that giving psychoactive drugs to a pet is considered animal abuse by law enforcement.
HOWEVER: If a dog in the wild was to snack on a patch of magic mushrooms it wouldn't be the end of the world. Wild mushrooms are commonly consumed by pigs, deer, rabbits, bugs, etc..
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: Universe]
#23460655 - 07/20/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Imagine give a dose of L to your prick boss or an antagonistic person in your life without them know, then sitting back and watching the fireworks lol I often wondered how this would play out, although I'd never do it
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
#23460681 - 07/20/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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shLong told us a really sad story about how he gave a hit of weed to a big dog that freaked out and literally TORE APART another tiny dog limb from limb.
The moral of the story being, NEVER give an animal psychoactive drugs. They could hurt themselves, you, other animals, or you might just scare the living shit out of them.
Don't give drugs to animals.
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onepunchman
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23460969 - 07/20/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't worry guys, i'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna feed her CBD infused doggie treats instead. I heard CBD oil works very good for anxiety for dogs. And they aren't psychoactive, you just get all the health benefits without the high
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman] 1
#23461104 - 07/20/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unpopular opinion: you should do it. Before mushrooms came along I was in a really dark place and I would gladly have been dosed without my knowledge for the opportunity. Plus I'm curious
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: JForce]
#23461268 - 07/21/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you show enough love and compassion to the dog you are basically doing the best job you can do.
Giving it mushrooms or any drugs is a horrible idea.
I have seen abused dogs get over their PTSD/fear of humans... But of course a lot of them will never get over it.
That is one thing that always makes me upset... Seeing a dog who is scared of every single human thanks to its original piece of shit owner.
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
#23461373 - 07/21/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What the fuck.....Why would you even ask this. Go look up Squirrel on shrooms on YouTube then come back and tell us what you want to do
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onepunchman
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: Titans]
#23461381 - 07/21/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Titans said: What the fuck.....Why would you even ask this. Go look up Squirrel on shrooms on YouTube then come back and tell us what you want to do
Chill. I already said I'm not going to do it. It's not a crime to ask. I'm pretty sure there's people on this forum that thought about giving shrooms to their dogs. At least my intentions are to help the dog, not for laughs.
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
#23461385 - 07/21/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's common sense it'll scare them. Their minds aren't able to comprehend stuff like that. It's too complex and they don't need it as well.
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Re: Giving an abused dog shrooms to remove conditioned fear. [Re: onepunchman]
#23461412 - 07/21/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Giving dogs psychedelics is animal abuse.
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