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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Shroomism]
    #23476968 - 07/25/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Oh really tell me more. I've spilled concentrated 100mg/ml nicotine (as strong as you can get commercially) on my skin several times, why am I not dead?





How long did you leave it on? I didn't say it would magically instantly kill you, it takes time for stuff to absorb through the skin.

You are delusional if you don't think nicotine is that toxic though :lol:

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PG is nasty? Yeah... I'm gonna need some sources on that one.
Is that why it's been used as an air disinfectant in airplanes and hospitals and government buildings for 80+ years? Because it's so "nasty"?

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20091104/Propylene-glycol-in-e-cigarettes-might-keep-us-healthy-says-researchers.aspx




Yeah, becouse being used as a disinfectant is clearly a good sign its healthy to vape :rofl2:

I have seen heavy vapers hack up way worse then I have ever seen any smokers.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: musiclover420]
    #23476983 - 07/25/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I know nicotine is toxic in high enough doses. But I'm not a fucking idiot.
Are you trying to scare me or something? I have 2 liters of 100mg/ml sitting in my freezer. Hasn't killed anyone yet.

You've seen vapers coughing therefore it's worse than smoking? Nice logic.

My anecdotal evidence is way better. I was coughing up black shit every day. I couldn't run more than 10 feet without hacking up a lung and feeling like I was dying when I was smoking.
I started vaping and my cardio health increased 10 fold within a few months. I could taste food again. I can SPRINT now without feeling like I'm dying.
It increased my quality of life in just about every way.

But yeah sure go ahead and peddle your bullshit

PG is actually proven to be healthy / good for the lungs. It's the primary ingredient in ASTHMA inhalers for fucks sake.
It's used in hospitals because it's GOOD FOR THE AIR and GOOD TO BREATH, it kills viruses and strep and all kinds of shit.

If there's ANYTHING in ejuice to be scared about, it's the flavors.. not the PG, not the nicotine... but you guys haven't even touched on that.
Probably because you don't know what you're talking about and read too much anti-vaping propaganda. But I can't exactly blame you for it, it is everywhere.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Shroomism]
    #23477002 - 07/25/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat:


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: musiclover420]
    #23477008 - 07/25/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can't Retort

Resorts to Gif


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Shroomism]
    #23477019 - 07/25/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Of course the OP can make their own decisions.  If you don't have an active nicotine addiction, my advice is to avoid it.

Yours obviously is that it is amazing and you can't get enough.  :shrug: 

I honestly don't care about any possible benefits from nicotine.  I've used it and the downs aren't worth the ups IMO.

Who would want to create a routine in which they are set off by stupid shit and experience brain fog when they don't have their fix?  Fuck that. 

Comparing nicotine with something that you need to survive is quite humorous considering the way people act when they don't have it.
 

Chill bro, hit your ecig.  You ought to try the honey pearry or hobbes blood from vapor chef.

The OP asked if it was a good idea to start using it, I'm saying it isn't for obvious reasons-mainly that it is addictive/can cause dependence and irritability and IMO is a waste of money.

I would ask how you feel when you run out but apparently you aren't the only poster in this thread who has ensured that they NEVER run out.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23477034 - 07/25/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

LOL "read too much anti-vaping propaganda"

I don't read shit on vaping, I don't even fucking care about vaping and don't read about it one way or the other LOL

I'm talking about my personal experience and observation of those around me and how they behave when they don't have their nicotine fix.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 1
    #23477042 - 07/25/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Dude I started on honey pearry, that shit's way too expensive, I make my own now and it's better.
$17 for 30ml or ~1-2 you be the judge :highfive:

I can go without just fine, but I don't like to. I'm at such a low nic level though I would hardly call myself 'addicted'..
the lowest nic you can buy commercially is like 3% at most places but I typically make 1.5 or 1%
Sometimes I forget my vape at home and it sucks, but I don't bitch at anyone because of it.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Shroomism]
    #23477067 - 07/25/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Can't Retort

Resorts to Gif




More like your "I'm right your wrong" attitude gets old real quick so I will not waste my time arguing with you :stoned:


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: musiclover420]
    #23477130 - 07/25/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nicotine gum worked great for me and I haven't had a cig in 21 years. I had previously tried to quit smoking hundreds of times. But I think it was probably better that Nicorette was still prescription at that time and I knew my MD would only give me a few refills so I had to taper down till I was doing 2 quarter pieces a day. When I ran out I had my one and only experience with chewing tobacco. I chewed a mouthful, got high as a kite and rinsed my mouth out for 5 minutes. Never touched any form of nicotine again.

    But I think if the gum was over the counter like it is now I probably would have had a fairly long addiction to it.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23477148 - 07/25/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Nicotine gum worked great for me and I haven't had a cig in 21 years. I had previously tried to quit smoking hundreds of times. But I think it was probably better that Nicorette was still prescription at that time and I knew my MD would only give me a few refills so I had to taper down till I was doing 2 quarter pieces a day. When I ran out I had my one and only experience with chewing tobacco. I chewed a mouthful, got high as a kite and rinsed my mouth out for 5 minutes. Never touched any form of nicotine again.

    But I think if the gum was over the counter like it is now I probably would have had a fairly long addiction to it.




I don't think the OP actively uses nicotine in any form. 

I think the OP is considering taking up the use of nicotine gum in order to become more productive throughout the work day.


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