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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #23459820 - 07/20/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can't argue with that! Touche. Aspartame is weird enough but so are the hundreds to thousands of other random additives found in all sorts of crap...


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: musiclover420]
    #23459839 - 07/20/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it's pretty mindblowing. And people just stick it in their mouth without question. I get really simple ingredients so it's whatever I guess. Just kinda sad to see little kids chugging high fructose corn syrup caramel colored beverages.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23459893 - 07/20/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've never been a smoker and so im not addicted to cigs.  but my buddy is, and is using the gum to try and quit.  i tried a piece of his gum and now i will buy nic. gum instead of any other chewing gum.  that stuff is awesome tasting!


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23459902 - 07/20/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

ergoticmandala said:
like will it increase chances of anything? for example mouth cancer



Well i know mouth cancer isn't a risk considering nicotine is non carcinogenic.:shrug:


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23459926 - 07/20/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

if nicotine was offered in a drink i wouldn't like it.  gum has no effect for me.  i quit smoking and vaping and i see absolutely no point in chewing the gum.  i did try it and it's not worth the money.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23459938 - 07/20/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:
Yeah, it's pretty mindblowing. And people just stick it in their mouth without question. I get really simple ingredients so it's whatever I guess. Just kinda sad to see little kids chugging high fructose corn syrup caramel colored beverages.




I have met a lot of crazy kids whose parents let them eat/ drink whatever :sad: I ate my fair share of crap as a kid myself but thankfully I realized it and stopped.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: musiclover420]
    #23461685 - 07/21/16 05:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

love that purple dead head pic bass


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23462001 - 07/21/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's bad for teethe


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Buckthorn]
    #23462023 - 07/21/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The nic gum is designed to make u crave cigarettes more

It's just another way for Big Pharma to make money off people


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #23462307 - 07/21/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've tried it, dunno if its bad but it seemed to do jack shit for nic cravings.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #23462311 - 07/21/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Unless it's perhaps not nicotine in the cigarettes you're craving. Idk, just an interesting thought.


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23462319 - 07/21/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well I dont smoke I dip but its very possible there is something else in the tobacco that is addictive


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23462470 - 07/21/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

ergoticmandala said:
love that purple dead head pic bass




What?

:confused:

I love purple and basses in general :lol:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: musiclover420]
    #23462498 - 07/21/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its very different. Nicotine is a potent vasoconstrictor and acts strongly on the cardiovascular system. Its a very complex drug, certainly not just a stimulant.

Fact of the matter is that nicotine drugs are the biggest killers and caffeine drugs are way less lethal.

If I were to begin again with nicotine, which I won't, I would go for either rapé or mentholated tobacco snuff (Ozona). I have also been tempted by snus but I dont think its for me as the nicotine hit is VERY strong.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Asante]
    #23462911 - 07/21/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:


What?

:confused:

I love purple and basses in general :lol:




i was saying that i like basshead's picture, the purple dead head skull


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23463429 - 07/21/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

apparently some people are starting to use nicotine gum who has never smoked .

Recent research has shown that not only is nicotine itself not very harmful (the cancer is caused by the tobacco and additives not the nicotine ) apparently nicotine is also not as addictive As we thought, and additives are why tobacco is so addictive .

Furthermore , nicotine has some nootropic benefits .

I have actually considered trying nicotine gum while Writing, even though I have never smoked.

However nicotine gum is very expensive .


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23463439 - 07/21/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd rather just microdose on mushrooms before doing something like writing :shrug: seems like a much cheaper (and probably healthier) solution to me.


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Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23463599 - 07/21/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

ergoticmandala said:
love that purple dead head pic bass




thanks.. it really captured the essence for me

do you know what the logo is inside the skull?


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: bass head]
    #23463619 - 07/21/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think the idea that nicotine itself is no worse than coffee is an incorrect one when applied to addiction.  Nicotine causes more mood swings and greater cravings.  Caffeine withdrawal is shorter in duration as well.

Both are addictive and if you have an addictive personality it can be hard to stop once you start either of them.

Nicotine would be riskier since the gum could trigger a relapse to smoking, which is horrible for your health.

If you're not a smoker or into vaping, why would you want to risk exploring such a reality through gum?  Don't you see how spiritually bound users of nicotine are to it?


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23464286 - 07/21/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

But they also seem to get something out of it, and its almost entirely the cancer and health problems of smoking that make it so grim.

If you could get what you like out of cigarettes without any of the harm, it might be worthwhile?

Certainly more worthwhile than smoking, and many people are willing to literally die to do that, so part of me does want to experience what it is they love about it so much if I can do so without dying of horrible lung cancers, smelling like shit, having yellow teeth, coughing all the time and not being able to run or exercise.

But still, I am happy with my weed and coffee and kratom, but part of me definitely is curious about incorporating some nicotine gum.


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