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Offlineergoticmandala
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do you guys think nicotine gum is bad
    #23459573 - 07/20/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

cus nicotine itself isn't really that dangerous, its just a stimulant similar to coffee, so would chewing it just to give you a bit of an edge for working be a good idea?


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23459575 - 07/20/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think gum itself is bad.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23459576 - 07/20/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i got nothing from it :shrug:


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23459578 - 07/20/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

like will it increase chances of anything? for example mouth cancer


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23459582 - 07/20/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I think gum itself is bad.



its like sugarless


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23459587 - 07/20/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Aspartame doesn't need sugar.

I'm sure it can't be healthy to chew nicotine gum but I have no evidence or theories to back this up.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23459607 - 07/20/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

some people go so far to say that nicotine is actually a nootropic.
http://www.brainprotips.com/nicotine-nootropic/


Never really looked into it myself :shrug:


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23459638 - 07/20/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nicotine itself is one of the most addictive drugs known to man but it's actually no more harmful than caffeine

It has a bad reputation because it's almost always associated with tobacco


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23459655 - 07/20/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ya I don't believe or know of nicotine causing cancer.  The patch was debated being used to make opiate painkillers more effective.  Nicotine brings a focus and synergy with many other chems.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23459662 - 07/20/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It hasn't been around long enough for any good studies to be done. I don't get anything from it.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23459665 - 07/20/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

First thing I do every morning is get out of bed and take a fat rip of my vape

Instantly brings me to a state of alertness


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: ergoticmandala] * 1
    #23459667 - 07/20/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't get addicted to nicotine. Developing a nicotine addiction is a bad idea in any context.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #23459668 - 07/20/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Morel Guy said:
Nicotine brings a focus and synergy with many other chems.



Cigs and Heroin is like pb&J


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Apostle]
    #23459690 - 07/20/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Probably wont give you cancer as far as anyone knows. Even the rates of oral cancer from dipping are significantly lower than cigarette cancer rates. Gum even more so.

It is addictive though. It can cause moodiness when you don't have any nicotine on hand, and can be an expensive habit. And it spikes your blood sugar with every use, which can be bad with long term usage or if you have diabetes.

Caffeine is better for focus, and doesn't spike your blood sugar (though it causes dehydration). Don't use nicotine just to use it. I use it daily, but then I'm already addicted to it.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23459694 - 07/20/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

why not both?


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23459696 - 07/20/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

As far as I know nic has never been linked to cancer. It is quite poisonous in concentration. It is addictive but as most of us smokers know the 2 to 3 days of mild discomfort/anxiety is no big deal and forms only part of the reason cigs are so addictive.

Yes you could chew the gum but it tastes like poop and would raise your level of anxiety more than it would assist you for working. In other words I suspect it would be more of a detriment to work. If you've ever taken too much caffeine then you'll know what I mean, it's not pleasant.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23459708 - 07/20/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:
some people go so far to say that nicotine is actually a nootropic.
http://www.brainprotips.com/nicotine-nootropic/


Never really looked into it myself :shrug:




That would make sense if it's closely related to caffeine (something I did not know until today), but I don't think that would say much on the health risks. That's interesting though.


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How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23459728 - 07/20/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:
Aspartame doesn't need sugar.




I find it strange they add phenethylamine lots of gum now a days, they call it phenethylakinetics or something.


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23459736 - 07/20/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've been addicted to nicotine for over 6 years

The only difference is now I don't have to coat my lungs with cancerous tar to get my fix

Ever since I switched to vaping around one and a half years ago my respiratory system has done a complete rebound and I can tell it has been cleaning itself out and continues to do so


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Re: do you guys think nicotine gum is bad [Re: musiclover420]
    #23459795 - 07/20/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Quote:

Kush_Zombie said:
Aspartame doesn't need sugar.




I find it strange they add phenethylamine lots of gum now a days, they call it phenethylakinetics or something.



I find many things about our food system strange to say the least.


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Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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