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Blue/green on first flush 6 days in
    #23458718 - 07/20/16 07:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)



So these are brf cakes and this is the only one with the more so blue than green on it also this is my most advanced cake of the b+ strain just kinda curious what's going on here and any advice on the misting and fanning will be greatly appriciated

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23458720 - 07/20/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Can't see any blue green usually it'll just be bruising from touching to hard or spraying hard or not spraying enough
Mist not spray when needed there should be a light covering of water beads spray so the water floats onto to cakes not sprayed hard at cakes remist when starts to look dry I.e. no beads of water left
Fan with lid after mist


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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23458725 - 07/20/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

someone told me they dont know why it turns blue, but it is apparent oxidizing..... Simply been told this, do not take my un-experienced word for it... all my rye grains knots have blueing... that is after i shook them,

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: Fruit Cakes]
    #23458803 - 07/20/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like bruising to me...youll find out soon enough if it starts expanding.

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23458823 - 07/20/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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someone told me they dont know why it turns blue, but it is apparent oxidizing..... Simply been told this, do not take my un-experienced word for it... all my rye grains knots have blueing... that is after i shook them,




Someone told you they don't know... and your Rye grain knots have blueing after you shook them... WHAT!?!?!  :facepalm3:




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So these are brf cakes and this is the only one with the more so blue than green on it also this is my most advanced cake of the b+ strain just kinda curious what's going on here and any advice on the misting and fanning will be greatly appriciated




The blueing looks like bruising from handling it. Other than that, the cake looks lovely.

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: Timmy Meow]
    #23458853 - 07/20/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I rearranged my set up cleared out another appt to put them. Being a first timer if probably hassled them to much I'm just going to let them sit by my window now. I'm a little concerned about the air in my room being as it's 115 outside I have a tower fan a ceiling fan and an air vent. Does this mean I'll be misting more or is it a bad idea to have it in this room in general.

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23458892 - 07/20/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

as long as you have made a proper SGFC, and are using it properly(ie elevated and away from walls/obstructions) then it should be ok, as long as you can keep them with fine beads of water on the surface. i mean, that is a lot of circulating air, but i have a fan on in my room, and it hasnt been much of a problem. also, as long as the fans arent pointed directly at the FC.

are you needing those fans to  keep the temp down? or? is there another room with proper temp that doesnt have as many fans?


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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: mupetmower]
    #23458912 - 07/20/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This honestly is the best room and yeah I live in a desert they are to keep the temp down none are pointing at it. There's the ceiling fan in the center at a medium rare the air vent and tower are on the opposite side of the room. All other rooms are generally the same with exception of the bathrooms But i have been told the bathroom will screw up later flushes due to the cakes becoming more prone to contamination this is my first time I have like 10 pins on like 6/8 cakes been in there 5 and 6 days half 5 half 6 and 1 pin stands out for the rest kinda my own little monster shroom.

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23458916 - 07/20/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, it will probably be ok. i would rather have more fans/airflow in the room than it be too hot. just make sure you keep them moist with little tiny beads of moisture. the increased airflow might cause them to dry quicker. if youve got pins on them, then seems like youre on the right track :thumbup:


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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: mupetmower]
    #23458935 - 07/20/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yup. Love this hobby has very rewarding fruits at the end. So if noticed my pins are coming in that even. So which leads me to ask if any one has any tips for getting the nice even pins. Mine are all over the place all though all but 1 have just came in over the last day the first is looking very nice though and some one on the shoomery named him scott lol

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23458941 - 07/20/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

a lot of it is just genetics. start working with agar, and clone some nice fruits. genetics and conditions.


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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: mupetmower]
    #23458984 - 07/20/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You say agar and my first thought is woah woah woah I gotta start in other areas first such and bulk, monotubs, as well as other grains I'm so very new to this and I'm the trial and error guy I screwed up 2 sets of jars and 2 big as totes even bought a big fish tank on my first attempt while others that could of started at the same time as me are eating there fruits lol

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23458995 - 07/20/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

agar is actually way easier than it sounds.

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you can start with those. the sooner you start agar worj, the better. it's a great skill to have for this hobby. and if you plan to continue with it, then you will want to learn. and again, it really isnt as hard as it seems. if i can do it, the week after i made my first ever brf jars, then you can too.

oh, and if you plan to go onto bulk, then you will really want to start agar first/same time. you will want your inoculant to be clean, before putting it to grain. it isnt as forgiving as brf cakes. with cakes, you can have a little bacteria, and still get decent yield. with grain, a little bacteria can let mold get in and fuck your whole grow. it just takes a little bit of bacteria in just ONE gain jar, that you spawn to bulk with the others, and then it can all be for naught.


also, lots of TC's and other experienced growers actually suggest starting agar asap, as well. it a very useful skill to have in mycology. not to mention its really fun!


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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: Timmy Meow]
    #23459137 - 07/20/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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someone told me they dont know why it turns blue, but it is apparent oxidizing..... Simply been told this, do not take my un-experienced word for it... all my rye grains knots have blueing... that is after i shook them,




Someone told you they don't know... and your Rye grain knots have blueing after you shook them... WHAT!?!?!  :facepalm3:



:rofl: it bruised when shaking in that other thread because the op had contaminations. Bacteria is the #1 cause of bruised grains when shaking.



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So these are brf cakes and this is the only one with the more so blue than green on it also this is my most advanced cake of the b+ strain just kinda curious what's going on here and any advice on the misting and fanning will be greatly appriciated




The blueing looks like bruising from handling it. Other than that, the cake looks lovely.



I've never seen cakes bruise from handling. Starting to think they never bruise from handling. 99% of the time when substrates bruise during fruiting it's because they got dry. It means op isn't misting them enough/frequently enough. This is minor bruising, but there's not even pins yet and it's bruising. He needs to be supplying more water for the upcoming pinset. In the pic they're like damp glistening. This is the perfect time to mist them until almost wet glistening with no pooling water.


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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: Mad Season]
    #23459344 - 07/20/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ok umm yeah I guess I haven't been misting enough I didn't wanna drown the cakes lol I listed kinda like the lets grow mushrooms video with a small mister. I haven't had puddles but if had to take a paper towel to the tips cause I felt like they had to much

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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23459358 - 07/20/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

With exposed mycelium like that, that colonized the verm layer.. you should expect it to get dry and shit. Yeah it needs to be glistening at all times with no pooling water. You need to shine a flashlight on them to see the glistening. Guessing with a paper towel isn't the way to do it :P. Using a camera with flash also helps us see the glistening lol, which is what you did :thumbup: and that's why I could see it wasn't glistening enough.

Basically from now on use a flashlight and your eyes lol.


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Re: Blue/green on first flush 6 days in [Re: Mad Season]
    #23459405 - 07/20/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Gotcha hey thanks again and yeah I moved it out of my bathroom just had to rearrange my room set up to make the perfect spot for it. I think I have this pretty spot on now

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