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LosAndreas36
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Hi all. Just cased 1 jar like a week ago. Check the pic, i just put it on fruiting. It is okay? I'm using old aquarium with perlite on bottom, i spray water on sides of aquarium. But as you can see, myc is in bucket, so i need to control CO2 level. I just do fan it with newspaper or something liek that, open aquarium, and wave newspaper to make airflow .
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You need constant fresh air exchange to have a healthy grow. Not just waving it out with a newspaper.
Imagine you had to live in there, they are suffocating. Look up sgfc (shot gun fruiting chamber).
Or if you just have the one, consider just opening a sandwich ziplock bag and setting it over top the container, if there is some air passage down the side of the container between the bag the heat of the air will circulate/exchange enough to fruit.
Misting isn't nessecary but rarely more often than not: and the substrate gets misted directly, not the walls.
If you plan on doing more grows just build a proper fruiting chamber (fc) like a monotub or shot gun fruiting chamber.
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SGFC all the way. I wouldn't even mess with using a bag of any sort. That's just my advice.
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Below me is exactly what u need to know
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The problem with bags is they're actually really good if you know what they need, and can poke the holes needed. A sgfc is best for learning because it is preset to show exactly what healthy mushrooms should look like after a few grows. Bags require someone who knows what they should look like to adjust the chamber accordingly.
TL;dr until you know exactly how to care for them, stay away from bags.
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Drill holes in the bucket and stuff them with poly, than put stylish shower cap on top.
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Re: Fruiting [Re: shrekk]
#23460248 - 07/20/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Time to get drilling
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I mean its one cake probably do ok but if you plan on future cake grows your gona want to make sgfc
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Guys tell me more about SGFC. I use big old aquarium, isn't it enough for small cake? Its not small one. And i put bucket in this aquarium. Take a look. Where should i drill? In aquarium or in bucket with myc?  
I wave on bucket and on aquarium at all. I grew like 2-3 times so idk, it always worked for me
What to do with aquarium?
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replace aquarium with plastic box, drill holes. Basic principles of the SGFC
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If you like fish or reptiles those are good options for aquariums
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Just make a sgfc I'm a newbie just ate my first shroom I'll vouch for it no need for all that fancy stuff tote and perlite
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Im not newbie. I grow shrooms in aquarium and it always worked for me. Plastic box cost a lot here and since im student i cant afford that.
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mushrooms want all the air in the chamber to be exchanged at least 3-5 times pr hour. since you cant fan 130 times a day we drill holes in the fruiting chamber so it happens automatically.
aquariums are very old tech, no fresh air means you shouldn't mist your fruits etc. yes it works, but not nearly as well as SGFC (shot gun fruiting chamber)
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Not agreeing with aquarium but man tubs do add up yeah. Wonder if the dollar tree has any cheap tubs
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in what part of the world are plastic boxes more expensive than glass aquariums?? I pay 10$ for a 65litre box with lid. small aquariums are 100$ easily
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For cakes 1 tub is all you need like space said. So cheap for a good sized tub. Must be drilled with 1/4" holes 2 inches apart in a grid-like fashion on all 4 sides AND TOP AND BOTTOM. Perlite 4 inches high and misted down good once a day.
These chambers are a bit small and packed tight, and the mushrooms are showing signs of lacking some fae, but we can all agree that it doesn't really matter for a personal use cultivator. Also proves it is a great chamber to be able to still give decent conditions to things so tightly packed.
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Got it. Thanks.  Zoom, there is small shrooms. The only question is what is fuzzy stuff. Cobweb?
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Well its not cobweb. But probably white or grey mold? I hope no, since its pinning and i'm almost at finish. Damn 
Myc was fuzzy at start. 
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I dont have plastic box and dont have money for it. It would cost me a 30 dollars or so. Just tell me, if its mold or myc. It doesnt smells bad, i do fan it 5 times a day. from side there is nothing bad, just pinning on casing layer. Bottom and sides looks fine. It could be just contaminated casing layer, well i hope its not.
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I dont use lid, i have cellophane shell (or skin, whatever) instead. Its often used for greenhouse for plants. I do open it fully, then fan it like for min or two, (waving) then close tight. And repeat this 5 times a day. And misting for sure. Check this : new cakes, myc looks good? The only thing i worry is contamination. Odor is shroomy
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Ah also there is small water drop...its okay i guess
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LosAndreas36 said: I dont use lid, i have cellophane shell (or skin, whatever) instead. Its often used for greenhouse for plants. I do open it fully, then fan it like for min or two, (waving) then close tight.
you shouldn't close it tight, it needs to breathe all the time not 5 times a day. try to leave a small gap open so you get some air flow.
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btw is this a drip shield? and what's with the electrical wires?
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Its thermometer wire. Just misting on sides of aquarium. The shrooms today (like 3 days old):  Is they are okay?
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You need a fruiting chamver with more fresh air exchange otherwise the growth will be stunted and it may hardly fruit
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Well i can open my chamber for air flow, leaving small gap so air would come in and come out. its okay? Just open gap in my lid, not using any filters etc
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I'm fine? Few days before harvest?
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there is standing water on your perlite, that can be nasty.get more air flow going.
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I have big gap for airflow. Well i can use syrenge to get this water out. i'll do this. what about shrooms? and contaminatioun
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contams soon follow in a FC with poor airflow,especiallywhen its so wet in there.
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But YET there is no contamination visible?
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hard to tell for sure now but it doesnt look all healthy nor especially happy.
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So you think fruits are not eatable? Well there is overgrowth of myc, yep, myc is rhizomorphic and very agressive. Well there is bruising, yep, but nothing smells, stinks, nothing looks like green, blue, moldy, bacterial etc. I'm not that pro, but tell me where its bad.
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There eatable no problem there.
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its not "rhizo and very aggressive" its reacting to bacteria. Just get some more air flow going on, IDK how many more times I can say it
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Well it was rhizomorphic when it was jar colonization, no problem was during colonization. Now opened my lid, not spraying the sides of aquarium anymore, and sucked some water from bottom. Will add some more perlite tommorow. Also i harvested 7 shrooms, i dont have scales, dunno if that's enough to trip off. I think there is at least 30 g fresh.
Well if they are not properly dried (not cracker dry, just 50% dry) they are still fine to consume?
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 Is this enough to take a good trip, after almost year without shrooms?)
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drying is for storage, you can eat them fresh they're even better that way IMO!
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You absolutely need to build a SGFC otherwise your substrate will get contaminated and you won't get any/very few fruits
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Re: Fruiting chamber [Re: Nekobasu]
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I am curious to learn if anyone else has had experience with flying critters making a home inside the fruiting chamber? We are currently dealing with fruit flies and they seem to love our fruit chamber. Should we be concerned? Thanks for your time! ALnG Alan
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Re: Fruiting chamber [Re: ALnG]
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As long as they don't eat any of the fruit bodies i don't see an issue, just wash the mushrooms before drying.
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Re: Fruiting chamber [Re: Nekobasu]
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i had few previously very succesful grows in this chamber. Its fine, there is always fresh air since it come in and come out, and i additionally wave, so there is always good and fresh air. I didnt found it bad, i didnt found any contamination, they was colonized fast, even there was no myc piss.
As i said I CANT do SFGC, i dont have money to even buy plastic box lol. There is humidity, temp, and fresh air. What else shrooms need?
I dunno how to drill in glass lol.
I'm just curious if that amount of shrooms make me trip.
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yes that looks like it would dry to be 2 3 grams and yes thats enough to make you trip
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Maybe its enough, maybe it isnt. I dont like taking less than 3.5g dried for a trip.
And i know you think its fine, everything is fine and you will never change your chamber design. But your not fooling anyone on here, i hope not yourself, that is not an optimal fruiting chamber, fanning is not sufficient for fresh air exchange which must be constant. All the time. If your standing there fanning 24 hours a dsy 7 days a week thats what it would take to have that be suffficient.
Check out other grows where people take 6 dry ounces out of one tub in a little over two weeks. Thats about 50 doses when in the same amount of time, with your chamber, youre wondering if the 20 grams wet you got will have you tripping.
In every alley you walk through or behind stores i bet my life you can find a plastic tote and have a massive amount of shrooms with the same effort you put in here.
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Well if that aint the truth.
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Just ate the whole flush. It was VERY intense experence.very strong. but after rehydration small piece torn away.
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just take a look at this.
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you talking about monotubes?
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Dude. Holes. God dang make holes.
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I have some fruits growing that look like nuggets or truffles, wondering what they could be. Koh
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Re: Fruiting chamber [Re: ALnG]
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koh samui super strain (KSSS) they are supposed to look like that, its what makes them cool
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How to drill holes in glass ?i dont have any instruments
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Buy a plastic tote and do it right or don't do it at all. Could you live in an enclosed container without breathing holes? Don't expect them to. It already looks like it is negatively impacting your yield.
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There is opened lid, they are breathing, and i mist em often since the humidity drop when the lid is open. So i mist them few times a day, and wave additionally. I used to wave few tims a day, now i do it 5 times a day, and lid is never closed. Shrooms are growing pretty much good, the second flush on first cake is kinda big and nice.
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As i said, the only thing i really worry about, is contamination. I give shrooms nice humidity and fresh air, so i dont see any contams, thats why i ask you guys to help me find out if my cakes are contaminated. There is good shroomy smell, nothing else. The tub itself smells wet, like river, without any cakes. Cakes smells very shroomy after misting
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Just because mushrooms are growing doesn't mean conditions are optimal. When I started growing I used a fruiting chamber with no holes and it negatively impacted my yields no matter how much I fanned. It's your first time growing mushrooms and you're not taking the advice given by me and various other members. Look at cakes fruited in A SGFC vs yours.
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LosAndreas36 said: As i said, the only thing i really worry about, is contamination. I give shrooms nice humidity and fresh air, so i dont see any contams, thats why i ask you guys to help me find out if my cakes are contaminated.
they will contam if you dont find a better setup. fresh air isnt coming into your deep buckets in sgfc.
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Btw i dont have bucket anymore, i pulled the cake out of it after first flush. And it grows very fine after rehydration. (faster than others) Second cake is fine too. The others too, have grey looking shrooms. The cap is looking grey. I'll send pics later on
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Thats not first time i'm growing shrooms man, Not even second, and not the third. i use only what i can actually use, what can i find, afford and use. Sure if i had money i'd buy that plastic box to make sfgc, ( i need to find it in my small town first) but i think its just only for next grow...
I think cakes are kinda dry. You can see how good the cake that was rehydrated, and the others. I misted them very well.
I dont even have scales to dose, i'm going to buy anyway.  
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after misting everything smelt shroomy, nothing else. As there is almost humidity, it smelt wet (greenhouse) but not moldy or stuff. Jars were clear, the colonization is full
I think maybe because cakes were too dry, i misted on them, so we see if its getting better. The cake after rehydration seems ALOT better and shrooms are really nice looking
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Harvested shrooms. The best 3 is going for spore prints, the rest are drying. Well there is somewhere around 5.5-6 gr dried, but visually ist looks like 10 gr lol. so i ate last time around 2 dried, and i had VERY strong trip..empty stomach, 1 year without tripping..almost felt out of body experience....
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Very strong geometry and visuals (OEV's and CEV's)
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Hi. this is how i dry them, i dont have any ideas how to dry them quicker, till they are cracker dry. Putting in hot environment (40c) and very dry, would be good idea? They losed their weight from 58 g to 13.5 g, but not cracker. they are not fully dried, does this looks like really 3.2?      
Took prints...and i got this... so prints are throwed away. I used tek with closed glass on foil, glass and foil was in oven, so it was sterile.
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wanna know what is contam on my cakes
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Here is the cakes for today.    
Can i take spore prints, or they will be contaminated?
Firts outdoor shrooms
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