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AVShroomer
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Needlepoint Vs Other
#23458727 - 07/20/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Might be a silly question but is there a difference between Needlepoint and just regular blotter? Is it just a slang term for good doses? I know how to grow mushrooms but never laid sheets or know anything about the process or the chemistry that goes into making L. But for years I've heard the term needlepoint and just knew needlepoint was high quality.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: AVShroomer]
#23458747 - 07/20/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No. Lsd is lsd. Some may be more pure but not enough to notice a difference
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AVShroomer
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Thank you! I had a feeling that's what it was but I wasn't 100%
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: AVShroomer]
#23458812 - 07/20/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
AVShroomer said: Thank you! I had a feeling that's what it was but I wasn't 100% 
I may be wrong but if i had to bet, i would go with what i said 
Glad i could help
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Eclipse3130
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Bill_Oreilly
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Think of it this way..
If you took oral dmt...pharmahuasca..
If you used pure white dmt would you be able to tell the difference between that and yellow DMT?
I doubt anyone could tell a difference
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: AVShroomer]
#23459285 - 07/20/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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just another marketing gimmick
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: Elff]
#23459488 - 07/20/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unless your source shows you an actual handful of needlepoint LSD crystals in front of your own two eyes, he doesn't know jack shit about what the crystal was like.
Literally nearly everyone I've gotten LSD from has tried to play it off like they have the crystal or know the guys with the crystal, but they're all really just lying and trying to seem cool.
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AVShroomer
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Yeah that's what I figured. The only person that really knows whats up is the person that's produced it themselves or is close with that person it seems like I been hearing the term needlepoint a lot more now than when I got into Lucy 13 or so years ago. A lot of people on the DNM say that's what they got I've noticed.
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: AVShroomer]
#23462291 - 07/21/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive only started getting tabs that were rated at actual ammounts in UG. It always used to be "good or weak" haha but it was always a rule of thumb to take 2 at once. If it was pretty strong stuff then i guess youre in for a ride if bunk then just take more haha
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: SonicTitan]
#23462315 - 07/21/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have about 20 hits left of this 200ug liquid from this dude who really knew the chemist. This is the only case where i am buying the claim
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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SonicTitan



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Niiiice man! I trust the dosage from my source. I was wary at first but every different batch i have had has felt true to its claim. Im very suprised and happy that i can get a reliable answer about the acid im buying
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: SonicTitan]
#23462355 - 07/21/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks man. Yeah and experienced people csn tell the difference between 100 and 200..maybe even 100 and 150ug.
Listen to this though..
The liquid I have now is awesome..super clean and potent. Legit 200ug like i said.
BUT
I bought a sheet back about 4 years ago off a different source and it was said to be white fluff on white..whatever.
Now that acid felt even cleaner than this liquid. The trip wasnt as intense but it wss the cleanest greatest shit ever. The afterglow was amazing and really felt like it couldnt get cleaner.
So this liquid is more intense and the expererience is more in your face. (No afterglow with the liquid)The WoW tabs felt like the trip was more in the background but was crystal clear and magical, to say the least.
I always found that interesting
I really wish that WoW source didnt turn to meth
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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SonicTitan



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Its weird how different types of lsd can yield different effects. Ive only ever had blotters but even tho the overall high is the same there are underlying differences between certain batches. Some can have more of that electric feel and others can be an almost drunk/psychedelia mix. Set and setting probably play a big factor too.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: SonicTitan]
#23462442 - 07/21/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's the wide range of effects that LSD produces, no trip is going to be the same as the next one. LSD is LSD Clean vs speedy acid is just simply a psychosomatic response to LSD, and of course set and setting as well. I can tell the difference from 100 to 125, quite a big jump actually. 100 to 150 would be like night and day. Now if you're experimenting with 1P-LSD or ALD-52 than yes, they definitely have different effects.
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IMO, LSD is LSD. It's literally one molecule. Any impurities are very likely not psychoactive and in such small quantities that they cannot affect anything. Variance in trip has a large part to do with set, setting, your current mood, the time of day, what hour it is, who is your president, etc.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: jds]
#23462450 - 07/21/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, the dirty vs clean is just a well known myth.
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Dark_Star
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LSD is LSD. I'd like to thank you folks for saying this, so I don't have type up yet another essay explaining why there is no difference in effects between batches. That shit was driving me nuts.
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SonicTitan



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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: Dark_Star]
#23463090 - 07/21/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think my diet probably played a big part in my older trips too. I used to drink alot more back then and not eat the healthiest. Now I find all of my acid trips to be almost consistent with each other in their effects. Just depends on how strong they are i guess.
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: SonicTitan]
#23463410 - 07/21/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah dose and set setting as I can see all my acid trips this summer have been very different from OEV's to CEV's to psychological & Cognitive thinking. But all different from the same batch....LSD is LSD, it is all very dose dependent and very set & setting dependent as well... Just I've learned not to re-dose, I Now IME take all the Lucy I'm going to consume for the night @ Once, just makes the Peak that Much Better!  
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23463476 - 07/21/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: LSD is LSD. I'd like to thank you folks for saying this, so I don't have type up yet another essay explaining why there is no difference in effects between batches. That shit was driving me nuts.
Well, i'd like to thank you. Because I'm pretty sure most of my information on LSD on these forums is from you! That and Orange Sunshine myth, i'm sure i'll be backing that one for awhile as well. 
Edited by Eclipse3130 (07/21/16 06:08 PM)
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Eywa_devotee
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Needlepoint used to mean very highly purified crystal LSD. What it means now is exactly what you thought, good high quality LSD. Most "bad" or "dirty" acid is not really LSD at all, it's usually some sort of potent phenethylamine RC on blotter. A UV LED light will make genuine LSD glow blue, while most RC's don't glow at all. There are ways to fake this effect, but it isn't usually done. If you got a good hook up and the cash by all means stock up. Good acid is hard to find.
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LuzaW
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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: Dark_Star]
#23463887 - 07/21/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: LSD is LSD. I'd like to thank you folks for saying this, so I don't have type up yet another essay explaining why there is no difference in effects between batches. That shit was driving me nuts.
maybe you could save your best writeup to a text file, write a macro, etc.
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SonicTitan



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Re: Needlepoint Vs Other [Re: LuzaW]
#23464894 - 07/22/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now would that same rule of thumb go for MDMA as well? Because i notice different effects from different MDMA batches, all tested pure. Would it more than likely be just set and setting? Or are there other psychoactive substances present that may attribute to a more stimulated or relaxed effect?
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Dark_Star
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Good LSD is not hard to find. There's fucking tons of it. It's all over, many batches with lab reports backing them up.
Thanks Luzaw, that's a great idea! I should do that.
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