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Invisiblepan_hed
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ID please ??
    #23458477 - 07/20/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

WTF are these?

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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Re: ID please ?? [Re: pan_hed]
    #23458479 - 07/20/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copelandia

Microscopy is required to see which species it is.

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Re: ID please ?? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23458485 - 07/20/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

could it be true? do we really have a chance here to contribute to the international scientific community and clarify a sub species of panaeolus cyanescens aka "copelandia) using microscopy?> if that is the case all I need to do then is head over to the university and find some one who is interested and already does biology/mycology. this should be fun. hmmmm surprised this hasn't already been done as it is well known that these mushrooms get you high. even the most uneducated person i have met knows these are "drunk"(literal translation) mushrooms. edit: side note these might be some of the most potent / agreeable actives on earth. I am aware that other actives do have some of them anyway a tad bit higher levels of psilocin but these are almost worry free off the shelf and hit like a freight train and then turn into a magic carpet ...er ... anyway  it looks like Nataraja and Raman did some work on what they ended up calling copelandia tropica and Singer and RA Weeks did the copelandia tropicalis however there are not wikipedia pages associated with either of these bodies of work. putting ll that together with current work will be key to mapping out this situation unless we subscribe that they are cyanescens directly in such case i would then be back at square one and relying on Berkley and Broome) Singer ... after having considered all of my options here I must conclude that I have successfully trolled myself on an otherwise boring yet interesting day in the land of shrooms and honeys

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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Re: ID please ?? [Re: pan_hed]
    #23458504 - 07/20/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

If you want to contribute to the scientific knowledge you'll need to check the microscopy and compare with Gerhardt 1996, and also sequence the DNA (ITS region is most important, followed by LSU), then upload the sequence to GenBank.




Here's my most up to date Copelandia FASTA, which includes everything in GenBank plus a few that are not in GenBank.


> Copelandia sp. MO188954 Ohio
GGTAGACGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAATCTTGTGCACGCATCTGCCTTTTTTGTTTATCCACCTGTGCATACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGGAAGTCTTGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAAGGGCTTCATTCATTCCCAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATGAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAGGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACTGTCCTGTTATTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCAATAAGCGGAGGAAAAGAAACTAACAAGGATTCCCCTAGTAACTGCGAGTGAAGCGGGAAAAGCTCAAATTTAAAATCTGGCAGTCTCTGATTGTCCGAGTTGTAATCTAGAGAAGCATTATCCGCGCTGGACCgtgtac
> Copelandia sp. MO188944 Ohio
GGTAGACGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAATCTTGTGCACGCATCTGCCTTTTTTGTTTATCCACCTGTGCATACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGGAAGTCTTGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAAGGGCTTCATTCATTCCCAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATGAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAGGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACTGTCCTGTTATTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCAATAAGCGGAGGAAAAGAAACTAACAAGGATTCCCCTAGTAACTGCGAGTGAAGCGGGAAAAGCTCAAATTTAAAATCTGGCAGTCTCTGATTGTCCGAGTTGTAATCTAGAGAAGCATTATCCGCGCTGGACCgtgtc
> Copelandia cf. chlorocystis 168631 Florida
TCGAATAAACTAGGTAGACGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAATCTTGTGCACGCATCTGCCTTTTTTGTTTATCCACCTGTGCACACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGGAAGTCTTGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAAGGGCTTCATTCATTCCCAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGATGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATGAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGTGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAGGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCTGTTATTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGC
>JX974751 Copelandia China: Laizhou Bay
TCCGTAGGTGAACCTGCGGAAGGATCATTATCGAATAAACTAGGTAGACGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAATCTTGT
GCACGCATCTGCCTTTTTTGTTTATCCACCTGTGCACACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGGAAGTCTTGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTC
TGAAGGGCTTCATTCATTCCCAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCGT
TAGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAA
GTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCC
TGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTGTCAA
AAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATGAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGT
TTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAGGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCTGTTATTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAA
TCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCAATAAGCGGAGGAAAAGAAACTAACAAGGATTCCCCTAGTAACTGC
GAGTGAAGCGGGAAAAGCTCAAATTTAAAATCTGGCAGCCTCTGATTGTCCGAGTTGTAATCTAGAGAAGCATTATCCGC
GCTGGACCGTGTACAAGTCTCCTGGAATGGAGCGTCATAGAGGGTGAGAATCCCGTCTTTGACACGGACTGCCAGGGCTT
TGTGATGTGCTCTCAAAGAGTCGAGTTGTTTGGGAATGCAGCTCAAAATGGGTGGTAAATTCCATCTAAAGCTAAATATT
GGCGAGAGACCGATAGCGAACAAGTACCGTGAGGGAAAGATGAAAAGAACTTTGGAAAGAGAGTTAACACAGTACGTGAA
ATTGCTGAAAGGGAAACGCTTGAAGT
>EU834287 Copelandia cyanescens var. bisporus Italy
TAAGGAAGTAAAAGTCGTAACAAGGTTTCCGTAGGTGAACCTGCGGAAGGATCATTATCGAATAAACTAGGTAGAAGCTG
TTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAATTTTGTGCACGCATCTGCCTTTTTTGTTTATCCACCTGTGCACACACTGTAGGTCTGGG
GGAAGTCTTGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAACGGCTTCATTCATTCCCAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACACATACACTATAG
AAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATC
GATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGC
GCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGG
ATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATGAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATT
GGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAGGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCTGTTATTG
GGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCAATAAGCGGAGGAAAAGAA
ACTAACAAGGATTTCCCCTAGTAACTGCGAGTGAAGCGGGAAAAGCTCAAATTTAAAATCTGGCAGTCTCTGATTGTCCG
AGTTGTAATCTAGAGAAGCATTATCCGCGCTGGACCGTGTACAAGTCTCCTGGAATGGAGCGTCATAGAGGGTGAGAATC
CCGTCTTTGACACGGACTGCCAGGGCTTTGTGATGTGCTCTCAAAGAGTCGAGTTGTTTGGGAATGCAGCTCAAAATGGG
TGGTAAATTCCATCTAAAGCTAAATATTGGCGAGAGACCGATAGCGAACAAGTACCGTGAGGGAAAGATGAAAAGAACTT
TGGAAAGAGAGTTAAACAGTACGTGAAATTGCTGAAAGGGAAACGCTTGAAGTCAGTCGCGTTGGCCGGGAATCAACCTT
GCTTTTGCTGGGCGTACTTCCTGGTCAATGGGTCAGCATCAATTTTGACCGTTGGATAAAGTTTCTAGGAATGTGGCATC
TTCGGATGTGTTATAGCCTAGTTTCGCATACAACGGTTGGGATTGAGGAACTCAGCACGCCGCAAGGCCGGGTTTTTAAC
CACGTTCGTGCTTAGGATGCTGGCATAATGGCTTTAATCGACCCGTCTTGAAACACGGACCAAGGAGTCTAACATGCCTG
CGAGTGTTTGGGTGGAAAACCCGAGCGCGTAATGAAAGTGAAAGTTGAGATCCCTGTCGTGGGGAGCATCGACGCCCGGA
CTTGAACTTCTGTGACGGATCCGCGGTAGAGCATGTATGTTGGGACCCGAAAGATGGTGAACTATGCCTGAATAGGGTGA
AGCCAGAGGAAACTCTGGTGGAGGCTCGTAGCGATTCTGACGTGCAAATCGATCGTCAAATTTGGGTATAGGGGCGAAAG
ACTAATCGAACCATCTAGTAGCTGGTTCCTGCCGAAGTTTCCCTCAGGATAGCAGAAACTCATATCAGATTTATGTGGTA
AAGCGAATGATTAGAGGCCTTGGGGTTGAAACAACCTTAACCTATTCTCAAACTTTAAATATGTAAGAACGAGCCGTCTC
TTGATTGGACCGCTCGGCGATTGAGAGTTTCTAGTGGGCCATTTTTGGTAAGCAGAACTGGCGATGCGGGATGAACCGAA
CGCGAGGTTAAGGTGCCGGAATTCACGCTCATCAGACACCACAAAAGGTGTTAGTTCATCTAGACAGCAGGACGGTGGCC
ATGGAAGTCGGAACCCGCTAAGGAGTGTGTAACAACTCACCTGCCGAATGAACTAGCCCTGAAAATGGATGGCGCTTAAG
CGTGATACCCATACCTCGCCGTCAGCGTTGAAGTGACGCGCTGACGAGTAGGCAGGCGTGGAGGTCAGTGAAGAAGCCTT
GGCAGTGATGCTGGGTGAAACGGCCTCTAGTGCAGATCTTGGTT
>AB158633 Copelandia cambodginiensis Colombia
AAGGATCATTATCGAATAAACTAGGTAGATGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAAACTTGTGCACGCTTCTGCCTTTTTT
GTTTATCCACCTGTGCACACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGAAGTCTGGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAACGGCTTCATTCATTCC
CAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACA
ACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATT
CAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATT
CTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAAT
GAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAA
GGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCTATTCTTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCT
GAACTTAAGCATATCAATAAGCGGAGGAAAAGAAACTAACAAGGATTCCCCTAGTAACTGCGAGTGAAGCGGGAAAAGCT
CAAATTTAAAATCTGGCAGTCTCTGATTGTCCGAGTTGTAATCTAGAGAAGCATTATCCGCGCTGGACCGTGTACAAGTC
TCCTGGAATGGAGCGTCATAGAGGGTGAGAATCCCGTCTTTGACACGGACTGCCAGGGCTTTGTGATGTGCTCTCAAAGA
GTCGAGTTGTTTGGGAATGCAGCTCAAAATGGGTGGTAAATTCCATCTAAAGCTAAATATTGGCGAGAGACCGATAGCGA
ACAAGTACCGTGAGGGAAAGATGAAAAGAACTTTGGAAAGAGAGTTAAACAGTACGTGAAATTGCTGAAAGGGAAACGCT
TGAAGTCAGTCGCGTTGGCCGGGAATCAACCTTGCTTTTGCTGGGCGTACTTCCTGGTCAACGGGTCAGCATCAATTTTG
ACCGTTGGATAAAGTTTCTGGGAATGTGGCATCTTCGGATGTGTTATAGCCTAGATTCGTATACAACGGTTGGGATTGAG
GAACTCAGCACGCCGCAAGGCCGGGTTTTTAACCACGTTCGTGCTTAGGATGCTGGCATAATGGCTTTAATCGACCCGTC
TTGAAACACGGACCAAGGAGTCTAACATGCCTGCGAGTGTTTGGGTGGAAAACCCGAGCGCGTAATGAAAGTGAAAGTTG
AGATCCCTGTCGTGGGGAGCATCGACGCCCGGACTTGAACTTCTGTGACGGATCCGCGGTAGAGCATGTATGTTGGGACC
CGAAAGATGGTGAACTATGCCTGAATAGGGTGAAGCCAGAGGAAACTCTGGTGGAGGCTCGTAGCGATTCTGACGTGCAA
ATCGATCGTCAAATTTGGGTATAGGGGCGAAAGACTAATCGAACCATCTAGTAGCTGGTTCC
>HM035084 Copelandia cyanescens 
ATCATTATCGAATAAACTAGGTAGATGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAAACTTGTGCACGCTTCTGCCTTTTTTGTTT
ATCCACCTGTGCACACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGAAGTCTGGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAACGGCTTCATTCATTCCCAGG
TCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACRAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTT
TCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGT
GAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCA
ACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATGAAT
TAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAGGTG
TTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCTATTCTTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAAC
TTAAGCATATCAATAAGCGGAGGAAAAGAAACTAACAAGGATTCCCCTAGTAACTGCGAGTGAAGCGGGAAAAGCTCAAA
TTTAAAATCTGGCAGTCTCTGATTGTCCGAGTTGTAATCTAGAGAAGCATTATCCGCGCTGGACCGTGTACAAGTCTCCT
GGAATGGAGCGTCATAGAGGGTGAGAATCCCGTCTTTGACACGGACTGCCAGGGCTTTGTGATGTGCTCTCAAAGAGTCG
AGTTGTTTGGGAATGCAGCTCAAAATGGGTGGTAAATTCCATCTAAAGCTAAATATTGGCGAGAGACCGATAGCGAACAA
GTACCGTGAGGGAAAGATGAAAAGAACTTTGGAAAGAGAGTTAAACAGTACGTGAAATTGCTGAAAGGGAAACGCTTGAA
GTCAGTCGCGTTGGCCGGGAATCAACCTTGCTTTTGCTGGGCGTACTTCCTGGTCAACGGGTCAGCATCAATTTTGACCG
TTGGATAAAGTTTCTGGGAATGTGGCATCTTCGGATGTGTTATAGCCTAGATTCGTATACAACGGTTGGGATTGAGGAAC
TCAGCACGCCGCAAGGCCGGGTTTTTAACCACGTTCGTGCTTAGGATGCTGGCATAATGGCTTTAATCGACCCGTCTTGA
AACACGGACCAAGGAGTCTAACATGCCTGCGAGTGTTTGGGTGGAAAACCCGAGCGCGTAATGAAAGTGAAAGTTGAGAT
CCCTGTCGTGGGGAGCATCGACGCCCGGACTTGAACTTCTGTGACGGATCCGCGGTAGAGCATGTATGTTGGGACCCGAA
AGATGGTGAACTATGCCTGAATAGGGTGAAGCCAGAGGAAACTCTGGTGGAGGCTCGTAGCGATTCTGACGTGCAAATCG
ATCGTCAAATTTGGGTATAGGGGCGAAAGACTAATCGAACCATCTAGTAGCTGGTTCCTGCCGAAGTTTCCCTCAGGATA
GCAGAAACTCATATCAGATTTATGTGGTAAAGCGAATGATTAGAGGCCTTGGGGTTGAAACAACCTTAACCTATTCTCAA
ACTTTAAATATGTAAGAACGAGCCGTCTCTTGATTGGACCGCTCGGCGATTGAGAGTTTCTAGTGGGCCATTTTTGGTAA
GCAGAACTGGCGATGCGGGATGAACCGAACGCGAGGTTAAGGTGCCGGAATTCACGCTCATCAGACACCACAAAAGGTGT
TAGTTCATCTAGACAGCAGGACGGTGGCCATGGAAGTCGGAATCCGCTAAGGAGTGTGTAACAACTCACCTGCCGAATGA
ACTAGCCCTGAAAATGGATGGCGCTTAAGCGTGATACCCATACCTCGCCGTCAGCGTTGAAGTGACGCGCTGACGAGTAG
GCAGGCGTGGAGGTCA
>HM035085 Copelandia sp. MW-2010 
AGGATCATTATCGAATAAACTAGGTAGATGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAAACTTGTGCACGCTTCTGCCTTTTTTG
TTTATCCACCTGTGCACACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGAAGTCTGGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAACGGCTTCATTCATTCCC
AGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACAAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACAA
CTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTC
AGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTC
TCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATG
AATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAG
GTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCTATTCTTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTG
AACTTAAGCATATCAATAAGCGGAGGAAAAGAAACTAACAAGGATTCCCCTAGTAACTGCGAGTGAAGCGGGAAAAGCTC
AAATTTAAAATCTGGCAGTCTCTGATTGTCCGAGTTGTAATCTAGAGAAGCATTATCCGCGCTGGACCGTGTACAAGTCT
CCTGGAATGGAGCGTCATAGAGGGTGAGAATCCCGTCTTTGACACGGACTGCCAGGGCTTTGTGATGTGCTCTCAAAGAG
TCGAGTTGTTTGGGAATGCAGCTCAAAATGGGTGGTAAATTCCATCTAAAGCTAAATATTGGCGAGAGACCGATAGCGAA
CAAGTACCGTGAGGGAAAGATGAAAAGAACTTTGGAAAGAGAGTTAAACAGTACGTGAAATTGCTGAAAGGGAAACGCTT
GAAGTCAGTCGCGTTGGCCGGGAATCAACCTTGCTTTTGCTGGGCGTACTTCCTGGTCAACGGGTCAGCATCAATTTTGA
CCGTTGGATAAAGTTTCTGGGAATGTGGCATCTTCGGATGTGTTATAGCCTAGATTCGTATACAACGGTTGGGATTGAGG
AACTCAGCACGCCGCAAGGCCGGGTTTTTAACCACGTTCGTGCTTAGGATGCTGGCATAATGGCTTTAATCGACCCGTCT
TGAAACACGGACCAAGGAGTCTAACATGCCTGCGAGTGTTTGGGTGGAAAACCCGAGCGCGTAATGAAAGTGAAAGTTGA
GATCCCTGTCGTGGGGAGCATCGACGCCCGGACTTGAACTTCTGTGACGGATCCGCGGTAGAGCATGTATGTTGGGACCC
GAAAGATGGTGAACTATGCCTGAATAGGGTGAAGCCAGAGGAAACTCTGGTGGAGGCTCGTAGCGATTCTGACGTGCAAA
TCGATCGTCAAATTTGGGTATAGGGGCGAAAGACTAATCGAACCATCTAGTAGCTGGTTCCTGCCGAAGTTTCCCTCAGG
ATAGCAGAAACTCATATCAGATTTATGTGGTAAAGCGAATGATTAGAGGCCTTGGGGTTGAAACAACCTTAACCTATTCT
CAAACTTTAAATATGTAAGAACGAGCCGTCTCTTGATTGGACCGCTCGGCGATTGAGAGTTTCTAGTGGGCCATTTTTGG
TAAGCAGAACTGGCGATGCGGGATGAACCGAACGCGAGGTTAAGGTGCCGGAATTCACGCTCATCAGACACCACAAAAGG
TGTTAGTTCATCTAGACAGCAGGACGGTGGCCATGGAAGTCGGAATCCGCTAAGGAGTGTGTAACAACTCACCTGCCGAA
TGAACTAGCCCTGAAAATGGATGGCGCTTAAGCGTGATACCCATACCTCGCCGTCAGCGTTGAAGTGACGCGCTGACGAG
TAGGCAGGCGTGGAGGT
>JF961377 Copelandia tropicalis China
GACCTGCGGAAGGATCATTATCGAATAAACTAGGTAGACGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAATCTTGTGCACGCATCT
GCCTTTTTTTGTTTATCCACCTGTGCACACACTGTAGGTCTGGGGGAAGTCTTGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAAGGGCT
TCATTCATTCCCAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACATATACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCGTTAGCCTATA
AACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGA
ATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGT
GTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGATGATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTGTCAAAAGTCTGCT
CCTCTCAAATGAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAACCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATT
GCTGTAAAAAGGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGTCCTGTTATTGGGACAACTTGAATCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGG
ACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCAATAA
>KT002152 Copelandia cyanescens China
AGACACCGTTTTGGAAGGTAAAAGTCGTAACAAGGTTTCCGTAGGTGAACCTGCGGAAGGATCATTATCGAATAAACTAG
GTAGAAGCTGTTGCTGTCCCTCTCGGGGGAATTTTGTGCACGCATCTGCCTTTTTTGTTTATCCACCTGTGCACACACTG
TAGGTCTGGGGGAAGTCTTGTAAGGGAGGTAACTCTCTGAACGGCTTCATTCATTCCCAGGTCCTATGTATTTTTACACA
TACACTATAGAAAGTAACAGAACGAATCAATGGGCATTAGCCTATAAACTATATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGG
CTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAA
CGCACCTTGCGCTCGTTGGTATTCCGACGAGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACCTCATCACTTTTGTGAT
GATGGCTTGGATGTGGAGGTTTTCTGCAGGCTGTCAAAAGTCTGCTCCTCTCAAATGAATTAGTGGGTGCCCCGCGCAAA
CCTATCTATTGGTGTGATAATTATCTACGCCGTGGGTTTAAGGATTGCTGTAAAAAGGTGTTTGCCCTGCTTCTAACCGT
CCTGTTATTGGGACAACTTGAACCATTTGACCTCAAATCAGG

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Re: ID please ?? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23458509 - 07/20/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

ok then, I will see about getting on that. looks like funds are going to come into play at some point essentially we will be sequencing the DNA and updating the gen bank which we already know that they are most likely the copelandia cyanescens however i do not am not and am now doubting that for this area in which im finding these has been officially done so. uh huh so then thank you and I will armed with this information see about getting this done. that might be the cart in front of the horse though. using microscopy i might use Gerhart 1996 to rule out that its not already the sequenced tropicalis or cyanescens. either way this is valuable and i will take it down to a lady i know at the local university. she likes fungus so.... yeah cool. im on it. honestly im confused myself as to what cyanescens means as its like a circular thing. if we say cyanescens but they are copelandia cyanescens but apparently that is not or is just copelandia. yes i am for sure confused. yeah so best to bring all of this information including information gained from but not necessarily restricted nor bound and or limited to this forum and it's distinguished members. thank you again.

so if i understand correctly we use microscopy to confirm via Gerhardt 1996 that it is copelandia cyanescens then it is not necessary to dna sequence them as that sequence has already been done/

Edited by pan_hed (07/20/16 05:51 AM)

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