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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: kunino]
#23481455 - 07/27/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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A small farm near me has grown great oysters on supplemented pecan. They have had mixed results trying other species on it, but that could be for a number of different reasons.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: MorePies]
#23483555 - 07/27/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok I'm mixed up.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Paresthesia]
#23486516 - 07/28/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here are the walnut bags after 2 days. There doesn't appear to be any inhibition to the mycelium, in fact, the growth seems normal if not vigorous. It'll be interesting to see how they fruit. I'll update as they progress. I have some fruit wood, peach or pear that I'm going to try as well.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23487252 - 07/28/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fruit wood should be absolutely fine. Fruit wood is not recommended to use for log culture, because most fruit woods are very hard and dense, so the mycelium has real trouble growing through it. But turning it into sawdust negates this problem.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Gr0wer]
#23490405 - 07/29/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey Gr0wer, did you notice any differences in the morphology and or flavor of the fruit bodies depending on the substrate?
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Gr0wer
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23492102 - 07/30/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, the wood ones are darker color, and the caps tend to be more trumpet shaped on the top rather than dome shaped. The fruits are a bit more firm and thicker caps as well. Flavor im not entirely sure as ive never done a comparison.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Gr0wer]
#23496229 - 07/31/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is this the streaky blotch you were referring to in your original post?
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23568427 - 08/23/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So far only one walnut bag has fruited though they all have pins. Here is a pic of the golds on fruit wood. These were nocd 13 days ago and are ready to fruit.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23569373 - 08/23/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've had similar results as grower with straw vs wood substrates. One thing we have been doing is adding 5-10% alfalfa cubes to the straw and the supplemented straw produces about double the yield, thicker, meatier caps than pure straw. We sterilize the alfalfa pellets, then keep them in the fridge until we need to use them. Good luck growers.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: SpeakSoftly]
#23605018 - 09/02/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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SpeakSoftly said: I've had similar results as grower with straw vs wood substrates. One thing we have been doing is adding 5-10% alfalfa cubes to the straw and the supplemented straw produces about double the yield, thicker, meatier caps than pure straw. We sterilize the alfalfa pellets, then keep them in the fridge until we need to use them. Good luck growers.
Hey SS, yeah, I too sup with alfalfa cubes...I just pasteurize them in with the straw in a separate bag so I can make sure they get good and mixed in with the straw before spawning. Here are some golds I just put outside the other day on alfalfa sup.

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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23605500 - 09/02/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said:
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SpeakSoftly said: I've had similar results as grower with straw vs wood substrates. One thing we have been doing is adding 5-10% alfalfa cubes to the straw and the supplemented straw produces about double the yield, thicker, meatier caps than pure straw. We sterilize the alfalfa pellets, then keep them in the fridge until we need to use them. Good luck growers.
Hey SS, yeah, I too sup with alfalfa cubes...I just pasteurize them in with the straw in a separate bag so I can make sure they get good and mixed in with the straw before spawning. Here are some golds I just put outside the other day on alfalfa sup.
 
Hhhnnnnnnnggg. Those are beautiful. The pinks too. They are so plump.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: MrBMF]
#23605933 - 09/02/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks MrBMF! Both varieties are super easy...prolly the easiest to grow and they're tasty. I highly recommend them for anyone new or old to growing...even with little know how one is almost guaranteed success and they're fun to experiment with on various substrates as they're so damn fast! Give them a shot if you haven't already.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23606790 - 09/03/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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2.5 lb cluster of golds off 50 lbs soybean hull, 40 lb fuel pellets, 4 lb organic fert. Its about 10" wide.
Edited by Gr0wer (09/03/16 01:32 AM)
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Gr0wer]
#23606951 - 09/03/16 05:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So how did the walnut bags do? I'm curious because I have a 100+ old walnut I cut in my back yard recently that I make into chips, want to know if it's worth to do or not.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Ipoxa]
#23607172 - 09/03/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: 2.5 lb cluster of golds off 50 lbs soybean hull, 40 lb fuel pellets, 4 lb organic fert. Its about 10" wide.

Dayamn...nice cluster, Gr0wer!
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Ipoxa said: So how did the walnut bags do? I'm curious because I have a 100+ old walnut I cut in my back yard recently that I make into chips, want to know if it's worth to do or not.
Hey, Ipoxa, I just picked up a bunch more. I mix it with other sawdust and chip mix to vary the sub but it seems to work just fine on its own. I say go for it.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23607487 - 09/03/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds great, y eah I have some oak sawdust from a sawmill and some bran I plan to fill in with. Didn't want all this to go to waste.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Gr0wer]
#23607811 - 09/03/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What organic ferts you using?
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23607837 - 09/03/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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He uses Epsoma plant tone, which contains probiotic bacteria. Good for plants, not so much for mycelium, tested.
Should switch to chemical versions. 100% safe and clean, tested.
No offense.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Ferather]
#23607849 - 09/03/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Right on. What about bat guano? I have some 0-7-0.
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Re: Straw VS sawdust, observations [Re: Mycolorado]
#23607946 - 09/03/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The idea is to add nutrients that the mycelium wants to a food, carbon rich source. You want grain potency wood, paper without the contam prone starch.
To do this you need to cover all required nutrients. Bacteria are not needed to convert things.
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You can use this site to search mushrooms. Here you can see King Oyster's.
Checkout the nutrients.
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