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OfflinePsy Baba
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Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet?
    #23457641 - 07/19/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've heard rumors, and people swear they've seen it, but I've yet to see proof or direct knowledge.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #23457676 - 07/19/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Isn't like all kratom smokable?


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Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #23457677 - 07/19/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd look into extracting the stuff yourself but i admit i don't know much.

I'm even skeptical of the mitagraiyne tinctures and never took that dive. I've had mixed results with extracts as well.

You'd think isolating actives would be a pretty straight forward process but i don't really know.


definitely interested to hear about this though. i'd not heard or read any smoking reports.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Apostle]
    #23457680 - 07/19/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I believe false reality has made some


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23457686 - 07/19/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

https://eternityinabox.com/shop/kratom-leaf-white-vein-kalimantan/

in the description they say one method of consumption of this one is smoking?


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How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457689 - 07/19/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You'd have to smoke a nasty amount to get any effects :lol:

I rolled a spliff with kratom and weed one time. It was not worth it lol


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457692 - 07/19/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea i dunno that sounds like bullshit but i honestly don't know.

I just assumed by the sheer amount of material i need to consume and how everyone consumes kratom that smoking it was a fruitless endeavor.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23457697 - 07/19/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

hex_enduction said:
You'd have to smoke a nasty amount to get any effects :lol:

I rolled a spliff with kratom and weed one time. It was not worth it lol




Yep, it'll take a fairly intense extraction.  Kratom hash would be so :vaped:.

I figure if it happens, this will be the place to hear about it.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #23457702 - 07/19/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nah that's just what new's medias say to make it look bad. Seriously, if it's smoke friendly, it would look bad.

You would have to smoke way to much kratom leaf to get any good effects.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23457710 - 07/19/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Dr.Wongburger said:
Nah that's just what new's medias say to make it look bad. Seriously, if it's smoke friendly, it would look bad.

You would have to smoke way to much kratom leaf to get any good effects.




Yep... I'm aware of these things.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Psy Baba] * 1
    #23457722 - 07/19/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Psy Baba said:
Quote:

Dr.Wongburger said:
You would have to smoke way to much kratom leaf to get any good effects.




Yep... I'm aware of these things.





Quote:

Psy Baba said:
Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet?




:lolwut:


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #23457730 - 07/19/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

mmmmm... I see, I see. Have you ever tried a OPMS gold extract? Maybe if one ventured to smoke that. I think it's a pretty strong extract.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457735 - 07/19/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The first quote is pretty much why he asked the second quote.


the key here is "smokable form".


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #23457776 - 07/19/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Like I said I'm pretty sure user false reality made some, even posted a tek on here I believe. Might wanna hit him up.


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23457895 - 07/19/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Black Widow posted in the vapor thread about kratom juice being surprisingly effective.


I've smoked plain kratom before it was very inefficient.

Then on a whim I tried freebasing some of my leaf with base and a dash of water, then drying... Big difference.

I almost always have a bag of freebased kratom now to top off my bowls with.

Here's the thread I made on the discovery: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140590


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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: flickedbic]
    #23457916 - 07/19/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Kratom raped me and killed my family





good thread. :awehigh:


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Apostle]
    #23458043 - 07/19/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah i got nothing new to post here (sorry op) but it can be smoked, like everyine else has said it just takes a shitload.

I saw some extraction on here that turned it into looked like a hash brick. It turned 1 kilo into 51 grams of black rock. Maybe you  just extract via this method a few times and turn 51 grams of extract into 5 grams of super extract?:shrug:

Idk i know extracting it  easier than any other substance that comes to mind(dmt, most forms of hash, mescaline etc.). I wanna say it was as simple as boiling it, laying it in a pyrex dish with isopropyl and drying it?

I wanna find the extract method now because it was literally like 5 steps, looked promising, had good reports and was posted in the pub like 2 months ago.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #23458111 - 07/19/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Kush_Zombie said:
Isn't like all kratom smokable?





if you can smoke a fish you can smoke a kratom


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Apostle]
    #23458131 - 07/19/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Apostle said:
The first quote is pretty much why he asked the second quote.


the key here is "smokable form".




:thumbup:  yep, pretty simple :P


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23458133 - 07/19/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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hex_enduction said:
Like I said I'm pretty sure user false reality made some, even posted a tek on here I believe. Might wanna hit him up.




Cool thanks!  ill check.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23458135 - 07/19/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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mmmmm... I see, I see. Have you ever tried a OPMS gold extract? Maybe if one ventured to smoke that. I think it's a pretty strong extract.




No Sure have not, do you know their extraction method by chance?


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #23458242 - 07/20/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Who knows right? This is what they say :


"O.P.M.s. Kratom has become a recognizable industry standard among kratom products. Top Secret extraction process was developed and designed to protect the integrity of kratom’s natural alkaloids.

The main difference between Kratom O.P.M.s. and other Kratom products has to do with how the alkaloids are extracted from the leaves. Most products employ a method involving hot water or a solvent. Under this process, the Kratom leaves are basically boiled out of the organic material. Research specialists have recently discovered a more effective extraction method using cold water and high pressure. With this method, more of the alkaloids are preserved, making for a better and more potent product."

http://www.downinthevalley.com/OPMs-GOLD-Kratom--OPMS--Extract-Capsules-2ct_p_1505.html


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23458758 - 07/20/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've used OPMS kratom from corner stores and can attest to the quality of their leaf at the very least.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: flickedbic]
    #23474914 - 07/25/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

flickedbic said:
Black Widow posted in the vapor thread about kratom juice being surprisingly effective.


I've smoked plain kratom before it was very inefficient.

Then on a whim I tried freebasing some of my leaf with base and a dash of water, then drying... Big difference.

I almost always have a bag of freebased kratom now to top off my bowls with.

Here's the thread I made on the discovery: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140590



alright so i'm trying this.

i got a bit of kratom and some ash mixed with water(weed ash ok?) mixed in a spoon.


can i add heat to facilitate the process?

how much ash do i use?


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Apostle]
    #23474955 - 07/25/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Apostle said:
I've used OPMS kratom from corner stores and can attest to the quality of their leaf at the very least.




We carried OPMS (Liquid 8ml) at the vape/smoke shop I worked at for a while.
That shit made me see Kratom extracts in a completely new light.

Extracting Mitragynine for purely recreational benefits sounds and feels good in theory, but you may as well just go back to doing pharmaceutical opiates at that point.

Sure, the withdrawals are drastically easier with any form of Kratom and its alkaloids, but it's still not the least bit pleasant even under the best conditions.
OPMS causes fiendish habits and 9/10 people that I sold OPMS to, at $20 a bottle nonetheless, would come back multiple times daily to redose.

Stay away from that shit, kids. If you're gonna do kratom, eat fucking powdered kratom leaf It's cheaper, longer lasting, and easier on your mind and body in the long haul.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: kr0nik0]
    #23474970 - 07/25/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You are telling the truth. I hate hate OPMS gold. I took the 2 capsules one night.. felt fine got really over heated of course. Then next night I did it again.. same type of thing happened just a little to much for me. Then I experienced a 3 day hang over of just being really tired and not feeling to good.

I use Kratom liquid extract shots and Kratom powder 10g-12g tea. Never have I had a real hang over or felt like shit from it for a few days.

After I used OPMS gold I just assumed it probably had adulterants in it. Felt like real droogz man.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23474979 - 07/25/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds interesting tbh.

i'm not too concerned about w/d and the extracts i've tried have been underwhelming


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Apostle]
    #23475004 - 07/25/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

To me they felt really weird man. When I use Kratom I usually get a burst of energy- want to vape a shit ton on it then I feel calm and relaxed for sometime and really hungry.

When I used the gold extract there was no burst of energy or good relaxation afterwards (I do remember not paying attention towards if I had a empty stomach or not) and it just kind of kicked in oddly - it made me dizzy, nauseous and uncomfortable. They definitely work for pain killing but I'm not into that type of buzz.

I like regular kratom better, a normal kratom buzz to me feel's like good coffee. Kicks in at once before you know it and your bursting with energy you feel good and pain free. Then your nice and chill.


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: kr0nik0]
    #23475249 - 07/25/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

kr0nik0 said:
Quote:

Apostle said:
I've used OPMS kratom from corner stores and can attest to the quality of their leaf at the very least.




We carried OPMS (Liquid 8ml) at the vape/smoke shop I worked at for a while.
That shit made me see Kratom extracts in a completely new light.

Extracting Mitragynine for purely recreational benefits sounds and feels good in theory, but you may as well just go back to doing pharmaceutical opiates at that point.

Sure, the withdrawals are drastically easier with any form of Kratom and its alkaloids, but it's still not the least bit pleasant even under the best conditions.
OPMS causes fiendish habits and 9/10 people that I sold OPMS to, at $20 a bottle nonetheless, would come back multiple times daily to redose.

Stay away from that shit, kids. If you're gonna do kratom, eat fucking powdered kratom leaf It's cheaper, longer lasting, and easier on your mind and body in the long haul.





Sound advice  :thumbup:


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Re: Has anyone found a smokeable form of kratom yet? [Re: Apostle]
    #23475538 - 07/25/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Weed Ash is ok make sure it's the white ash and at about a fourth by volume; add a dash of water and mix and spread let' sit,  mix and spread it out to dry.  Maybe put it in a warm dry room with a gentle fan moving the air around or a heater fan... I wouldn't oven dry or anything that may vape it before one intends to.


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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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