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TomR113
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Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?)
#23457614 - 07/19/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi,
Brand new to this site and I'm happy to be here with you guys/girls. I purchased a grow kit and have pasteurized my straw substrate, completed the spawning process and placed the grow box in a dark room with temp at 79f. At this stage in the instructions is explains to wait approximately 12 days before adding the casing soil and ensuring that the mycelium has completely grown through the straw and appears all white. Well, it has been 8 days and it is all white with no straw showing and looks very healthy. My question is, is it too soon to add casing soil at 8 days in or is it necessary to wait the full 12 days? I really want to make sure this kit turns out well and don't want to rush anything. However, it looks ready to case to me...but i'm to new to this to make a call without guidance from more knowledgable people.
Regards,
-Tom
Edited by TomR113 (07/19/16 09:14 PM)
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: TomR113]
#23457657 - 07/19/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Without pictures nobody here would be right to recommend anything.
Let's see...
-Light is beneficial for all stages of growth, darkness is not a requirement during colonization. -All white, is not necessarily all right. -68-75F are better temps, Closer to 80 gives the edge to bacteria rather than mycelium. - You can case whenever, I case when I spawn.
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: Inocuole]
#23457732 - 07/19/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pics

Edited by TomR113 (07/19/16 09:45 PM)
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: TomR113]
#23457778 - 07/19/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good news and bad news. Let's start with the good.
If you have a fireplace in your home, you can use those instructions as kindling for your next fire. That stuff is so out of date you could read here for 5 minutes and come up with better instructions.
The bad news is that tub is very very bacterial. It may go on to produce fruits but the thickness and density of the mycelium and that sort of ice-cream look are bad signs.
That's a classic representation of kits being sold by people who don't know how to grow, or who read some super old shit online and then considered themselves done learning. Sorry but you've been had.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22721954
Here's some information that came from this millennium. Go ahead and case your grow, but don't have too high of hopes for it, because that bacteria is going to cut into the overall yield pretty hard. Good luck.
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: Inocuole]
#23457798 - 07/19/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info. How depressing...
Regards,
-Tom
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: TomR113]
#23457839 - 07/19/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah...... spores101/mushbox ??? Sounds like it... They don't know their ass from their elbow when it comes to cultivation. They sell n00bs B+ and Albino A+ as whatever they want. This is why grow kits suck Among other reasons. They get their money and they're cool. Meanwhile, you have a fucked kit that's not really worth a goddamn.
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: dankington]
#23457853 - 07/19/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The kit was from **********
There is some moisture that is on the mycelium making it look slicker than it does in real life. Is this kit even worth moving forward with or should I just throw it out? No weird smells coming from it and no other colours other than white. I don't want to end up poisoned or sick because of a bad grow but MAN was i excited for this..
Edited by TomR113 (07/20/16 01:05 PM)
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: TomR113]
#23457876 - 07/19/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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smell and white, unfortunately, aren't enough to say it's cool to go.
 Just try and give nice fruiting conditions. If it fucks up, and you're willing to go to agar (search pastyplates), you can PM me. I'll send you a sporeprint to do things right.
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: dankington]
#23457907 - 07/19/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds good man. I'll try dropping the temp a bit over the next 18-24 hours, make sure the bag isn't to tight to allow for a little more airflow and case tomorrow. Hopefully with ideal fruiting conditions some fruits will come through.
Appreciate the help.
-Tom
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: TomR113]
#23458848 - 07/20/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks bacterial but fully colonized. You could case and see what happens. you might still get a decent flush. I would suggest reading the teks here and going forward stay away from the kits. You can do it better and MUUUUCH cheaper by yourself. The folks here are great and always very helpful to those that help themselves (Learn to use the search tools). Welcome to the Shroomery and Good luck!!!
-------------------- Always go forward! Never go straight!!
Edited by Hugh Jorgan (07/20/16 08:40 AM)
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: Hugh Jorgan]
#23459208 - 07/20/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is the route I'm going to go. I'm going to case tonight and keep optimal fruiting conditions and hope for the best. Really disappointing because I followed the instructions to a T, didn't cut corners and made sure everything was sterile. Based in the feedback from this site kits are definitely frowned upon. Now I know why.
If fruits do grow would they be safe to eat?
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: TomR113]
#23459531 - 07/20/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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TomR113 said: The kit was from *****************.ca
There is some moisture that is on the mycelium making it look slicker than it does in real life. Is this kit even worth moving forward with or should I just throw it out? No weird smells coming from it and no other colours other than white. I don't want to end up poisoned or sick because of a bad grow but MAN was i excited for this..
This is the same kits I first got. They both contaminated. The instructions are wack and I can't believe they are still selling them like that. Not to mention my spawn was bactieral as fuck when it got to my door now that I think back on it, even smelled sour. I never cased mine and one turned green before 100%, the other got fairly close to 100% and I fruited it, but then shortly after had some green show up.
Back when I had this happen I emailed them complaining about the instructions and got a full refund, so it was not so much of a loss. These kits are not cheap.
Also, I suggest removing the website from your post, we don't advertise vendors selling psychedelic mushrooms here.
I say fruit it just like that, modifiy the lid of that hydro seeding tray they gave you with it, with holes some what like a mono tub. Stuff the holes with poly. Hope for the best. If you add that casing layer you are just asking for contams, straw is already contam prone which is almost all your substrate is, other than the grains you used to inoculate it. Not to mention it already look to be bacterial and weak, as others said.
Here is a link to my first grow thread: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20281385
And this is a grow I managed to salvage with a little knowledge grained from the shroomery, by saving a few of the grains that came with the kits: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20291199
Both of these threads are a good read, you will find plenty useful information scrolling through them.
If it does produce any mushrooms they are perfectly fine to eat, don't worry about getting sick. But if you get a contamination be sure to get rid of that shit before it contaminates your house too (and possibly your future grows), that is the type of stuff that can make you sick in this hobby.
Feel free to PM me if you need some help or have questions, as I have walked your exact path.
Edited by TheChief (07/20/16 01:41 PM)
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TomR113
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Re: Faster than expected Mycelium Growth. (Can I case yet?) [Re: TheChief]
#23459705 - 07/20/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you so much for the reply. Extremely helpful, esp the links. From a rookie perspective the growing portion seems extremely complicated, so kits start looking desirable. Obviously they are a hit or miss...more a miss.
Sorry for mentioning the site I received the kit from; I removed it now.
Again, really appriciate the reply.
Tom
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