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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: mushpunx]
    #23458190 - 07/20/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Does DMT change your long term weed high like acid and shrooms seem to often do?

I've only done 2 indole tryptamines before (LSD and mushrooms) and each one changed my weed high quite a bit. Does DMT have this same effect? I mean after acid and shrooms life in general was different. Like almost giving you the feeling that you "never really came down from the trip".. fully at least..


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23458307 - 07/20/16 02:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've only done Changa... Well. I've done DMT but didn't get very far with my couple of attempts. Just sort of felt like the beginning of a mushroom trip that came on fast and then dissipated.

But speaking for Changa at least... The farthest I've gotten with it is when I smoked it in a normal glass pipe and then saw intense mushroom-like visuals racing past me. You see these very colorful, speedy, tryptamine come-up visuals racing past you. It feels like you're in a spaceship and you just hit the "Warp-Speed" button.
I saw mini Alien-children running towards me that were making these excited squeaky noises. And they were banging on this glass wall separating us. Then it ended...

To be honest I can compare it to mushrooms. But like sped up x10000 and it has its' own character. For me it's on its' own level separate from other Psych's mostly just because of how intensely fast it happens. I love it and it's my favorite Psychedelic. But to me the thing about it that makes it so useful compared to other Psychedelics is that it's so fast acting.

Because you're sober...
Then you DMT...
20 Minutes later you're completely back again and you can see with perfect clarity how the Psychedelic has affected your mind/worldview/attitude/etc...

That's what DMT feels like... Perfect clarity. And yeah lower doses can be nice. Very fun and enjoyable and beautiful. Again I'm just speaking for Changa. SO sorry if there's a huge difference between the two but probably most of what I said would still hold up for pure DMT as well.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23458481 - 07/20/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds just like dmt. Changa is essentialy just DMT in a herb. You could use tarragon if you really wanted to... Its just more functional and easier to smoke without a vape. I really like doing bongs of DMT with a small ash layer above and below. The jungle spice i have is very easy to smoke. Almost to the point where you dont really need that layer of ash covering the dmt and if you just hover the lighter over the bowl it will burn nicely.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23459733 - 07/20/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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To be honest I can compare it to mushrooms. But like sped up x10000 and it has its' own character. For me it's on its' own level separate from other Psych's mostly just because of how intensely fast it happens. I love it and it's my favorite Psychedelic. But to me the thing about it that makes it so useful compared to other Psychedelics is that it's so fast acting.

Because you're sober...
Then you DMT...
20 Minutes later you're completely back again and you can see with perfect clarity how the Psychedelic has affected your mind/worldview/attitude/etc...

That's what DMT feels like... Perfect clarity. And yeah lower doses can be nice. Very fun and enjoyable and beautiful. Again I'm just speaking for Changa. SO sorry if there's a huge difference between the two but probably most of what I said would still hold up for pure DMT as well.




Ya from what I've heard changa is basically the same thing instead just a slower journey to hyperspace. I've had level 4 and level 5 psychedelic experiences before with mushrooms and I can imagine getting there in less than 30 seconds with DMT or with anything would be utterly crazy so I can see why people say DMT is big business. I mean getting ego death in less then a minute is no joke. Has DMT changed the way cannabis effects you at all.

I mean as long as I get any tryptamine visuals I should be happy.
So does DMT really change your world view like mushrooms or acid does? It's hard for me to fathom something that only lasts 10 minutes doing that to me even though that's probably what will happen to me.
I hope it gives my gf that too because even though she wants to experiment with psychedelics she still is a little ignorant on them so I'm hoping to "awaken her" I just hope DMT can do it just as well if not better than mushrooms or acid.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23459759 - 07/20/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psychedelics make weed better for me personally. Especially mushrooms. Whether I'm on the mushrooms or not, weed is just better these days. It feels like the smoke is more "full" in my lungs, it's really nice.

DMT changes nothing if you choose to do nothing. These are tools, not magic pills. You're not going to do DMT and all of a sudden be some enlightened individual who knows the answers to everything. But it will open up more questions and more sights and experiences that you can work off of which will bring forth more answers which will bring forth more questions. It'll get you thinking. I've seen many people smoke DMT that got absolutely nothing out of it except for a cool 10 minutes. It's sad sometimes actually.

and I hate the term "ego death" so much. The ego can be an incredibly powerful tool. A more accurate term imo would be an "arrogance death".


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23459778 - 07/20/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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DMT changes nothing if you choose to do nothing. These are tools, not magic pills. You're not going to do DMT and all of a sudden be some enlightened individual who knows the answers to everything.




Well you know I didn't mean that. I never said anything about enlightenment or answers that's not why I'm doing DMT. I meant a change in world view or a different view on what's actually possible. Same with acid and shrooms.

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and I hate the term "ego death" so much. The ego can be an incredibly powerful tool. A more accurate term imo would be an "arrogance death".




It's necessary for survival yes but t's just a biological mechanism. I'm not talking about being humbled I'm talking about a dissolving of a biological trick that being the ego. Without the ego you just become a point of awareness; no memories, no personality, no thoughts, no biology just awareness.

The term ego death refers to the symbolic death of the ego so it's not meant to be taken so literally and the point of ego death is not to rid yourself of the ego in any long term sense, that's obviously not possible and unnecessary. The point of ego death is a biological process to make the organism more aware, the point of it is to temporarily shut off the ego so that the person can see that it is nothing more than a biological trick. The point isn't to show you how evil the ego is or to permanently fuck over the ego, the point of ego death is just to show you that you have an ego in the first place.

You can't know what ego is unless you've dissolved it. There's nothing wrong with ego, it's needed for survival.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23459793 - 07/20/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Was just giving :2cents:


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23459796 - 07/20/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

DMT has totally changed the way cannabis affects me actually. Psychedelics did that too, but for some reason ever since I started doing DMT it's like I can notice the Psychedelic effects of cannabis much more clearly. DMT changes everything I do actually. Especially if I do something right after doing DMT. It's like DMT "wipes your slate clean" instantly... Then you can go do something or take something you normally do and have a very clear understanding of how it affects your mind. Even for that it's a very good tool for me. Doing it and then getting a new view of something that is an ordinary part of my life (Weed, Caffeine, Music, Exercise, Work, Etc...).

You will definitely get beautiful Tryptamine visuals on lower doses. Not sure how low though. I'm pretty sure I've smoked 25mg before and had beautiful experiences. I was thinking about introducing a relatively noob Psych user to Changa, because low doses can be beautiful while not being overwhelming.

It changed my worldview. I mean it's really the same thing as mushrooms or ayahuasca... But the speed of it itself is was makes it different. The quick blast off gives you a different effect. I mean when you're tripping you really are just in it and can't really do anything about it. You can't walk around and play in hyperspace like you can do on mushrooms. It's like you don't even understand what has happened to you until you come back.

I just had a Changa trip about an hour ago looking in the mirror (first time I've done that). I saw my skin turning into rubber and my face turning into what looked very similar to the alien-beings I saw in previous trips. I put the vape down and laid down on the couch. I felt like I couldn't see myself turn into an alien... Lol. I can't handle that yet I think.

But after the trip ended I just laughed my f'ing ass off like a crazy person for maybe 15 minutes. It feels like your entire life from birth to the current moment has been a big joke... And you just got the punch-line now.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23459807 - 07/20/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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DMT has totally changed the way cannabis affects me actually. Psychedelics did that too, but for some reason ever since I started doing DMT it's like I can notice the Psychedelic effects of cannabis much more clearly. DMT changes everything I do actually. Especially if I do something right after doing DMT. It's like DMT "wipes your slate clean" instantly... Then you can go do something or take something you normally do and have a very clear understanding of how it affects your mind.




This is a random question but may I ask in which order you did you psychedelics?

ex: I did mine DMT, Amanita Muscaria, LSA, Psilocybin


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23460047 - 07/20/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Let's seeee

1: Cannabis (Smoked)
2: LSA
3: Amanita (I don't count it as a Psych but since you included it)
4: LSD
5: Cannabis (Edible)
6: 2CB
7: Psilocybin
8: 4-Aco-DMT
9: DMT (Changa)

Cool you did DMT first haha.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23460138 - 07/20/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was just asking because I found it interesting that Psilocybin seems to have done to me what DMT has done for you. I also found it a little interesting that you tried Psilocybin before DMT, yet DMT is what made that noticeable change for you, and I tried DMT before Psilocybin but Psilocybin is what made that noticeable change for me.

Could be looking too much into it but still fun to consider.


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Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23460141 - 07/20/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also, why don't you count Amanita as a psychedelic?


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23460203 - 07/20/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psilocybin did the same thing for me but.... Just in a different way.

I guess DMT was just WAY more of an obvious change for me.

I don't consider Amanita Psychedelic because when I tried it it felt like way more of a deliriant for me. I felt really dizzy, laid on the ground, and then felt like the world was spinning around me. It was sort of cool but didn't really have much, if any Psychedelic effects for me. Maybe it was just the specific kind I ate or something. Only tried it once.

Oh. And I just found, like 5 minutes ago, the original little baggy of Pure DMT I had bought and tried when I only had a meth pipe and couldn't effectively blast off.

Now I have a GVG. I can finally see what Pure DMT is really like. Ohmygoddddd. Here I go. :laugh:

Edit: Wow. That was really intense. I didn't get a full breakthrough amount but I noticed the difference. It was subtle. My arms and my face turned all rubbery and smooth. I felt like a baby in the womb or something. Got a couple trips'  worth of pure DMT left. Gonna try to make it all the way.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23460630 - 07/20/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wow thanks for the responses guys :thumbup:

Changa sounds like some cool stuff. DMT in general sounds amazing and just can't wait, if it's remotely anything like mushrooms I should absolutely love it. All the tryptamines have really made my weed more tryptamine-like they haven't just made me notice the effects of weed more.

Let's see my list of psychedelics in order

1. Weed
2. Psilocybin
3. 2C-B
4. 2C-I
5. LSD
Damn I gotta step my game up


Also you said you can't really "walk around" on DMT. I know depending on the dose or how much you can hold in it can practically paralyze you but what happens if you were to take a very small dose and you were walking around in nature or just chilling in nature?

Is there anyway you could "casually" microdose with the stuff just for nature or music/art appreciation? Maybe I'm trying to compare it too much to other psychedelics but it's short duration and fast acting nature leads me to think it's possible. especially since it is after all a threshold drug.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23460865 - 07/20/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You could definitely take a smaller dose. But from what I just experienced with Pure DMT, Changa would be much better for that. Obviously because a small dose of DMT would be short acting. Changa is better for more recreational use. I try to blast-off every time I use Changa but even when I don't I still find it very beautiful and taking it in nature would be great. I would do it closer to night-time as the visuals really show up most in at least a somewhat dark atmosphere.

I can walk around on DMT or Changa. One time I smoked a good amount of Changa and all of a sudden had to pee really bad. So I got up and walked through my house really fast and it was totally freaky. In a good way... You can walk around on it. It's not necessarily that it knocks you out every time. But just about every time I just feel like it would be best to lay down once the visuals come on. I guess because on Mushrooms or LSD or something it's very extended and has a pace to it where it allows you to understand what's going on so you can decide if you want to go walk around and explore and what not.

It had more "recreational" potential than I thought originally though. It won't necessarily paralyze you. May put you in a sort of trance though.  You could definitely walk around in nature and what not if you wanted to and enjoy it that way. :thumbup:

In nature at night is next for me.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23461068 - 07/20/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just did a Pure DMT trip in my backyard at night.

Holy fucking lord. Amazing.

The grass just turned into a big flowing ocean. The sky became extremely vividly Blue/Purple and the stars looked like little different colored planets.

And as usual. All of the hair and freckles on my arms vanished and my skin became pure white and looked like super-smooth rubber. So fucking weird how that always happens. I either see little rubbery alien-like creatures or I turn all rubbery an alien-like. It's like the signature of every DMT trip I have.

I just sat in my chair looking up at the sky saying "Jesus fucking christ. Jesus. Fucking. Christ..."


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23476670 - 07/25/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Just did a Pure DMT trip in my backyard at night.

Holy fucking lord. Amazing.

The grass just turned into a big flowing ocean. The sky became extremely vividly Blue/Purple and the stars looked like little different colored planets.

And as usual. All of the hair and freckles on my arms vanished and my skin became pure white and looked like super-smooth rubber. So fucking weird how that always happens. I either see little rubbery alien-like creatures or I turn all rubbery an alien-like. It's like the signature of every DMT trip I have.

I just sat in my chair looking up at the sky saying "Jesus fucking christ. Jesus. Fucking. Christ..."




Haha damn that sounds amazing. Sorry for the late reply but the way you described the grass flowing like one big ocean sounds familiar to what I've gotten on small doses of mushrooms.

Can't wait to try DMT and thanks for the advice on small dose DMT and taking it in nature:thumbup:


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