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Small dose of DMT first time
    #23457535 - 07/19/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not going to try it yet but I think I am in the next few months. My gf wants to try it as her first psychedelic but I don't know about that lol I'll have to try it first to give my view on that idea.

Anyways just wanted to know what possibly a low sub-threshold dose of DMT would feel like? Like 10 to 15mg? Because I planning on dosing small my first time and not just jumping right into it like I did with mushrooms and LSD but seeing just what it's all about and how it actually feels in comparison to others.
Is a small dose of DMT in anyway comparable to mushrooms or LSD? How visual or how "strange" is it? From what I've heard people say about low doses it sounds often warm, relaxing and even tranquil. Sounds very similar to some mushroom experiences I have had r at least some mushroom effects.

Also maybe if you can explain what a breakthrough dose feels like if you can or what happens to you personally when you breakthrough. I'm wondering as well how profound people here find it exactly because some people talking about DMT will act like it's not as profound as the other psychs but instead just very interesting and fascinating whereas others act like it is the most profound thing ever. What is it for you and why isn't there as clear of a consensus about this aspect of it?


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23457599 - 07/19/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Intense body high, maybe some pattern recognition. Everything will look like pastel paintings in a way where you ont really see the definition of say a leaf but the solid primairy color. Things will look almost digital too in a way. Massive euphoria will take over your senses as well and your hearing will become slightly distorted. You may see patterns with your eyes closed too. Tho a dose like that will be mainly a very awesome body high.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23457613 - 07/19/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Everything will look like pastel paintings in a way where you ont really see the definition of say a leaf but the solid primairy color.

Things will look almost digital too in a way.




Hmmm sounds very much like mushrooms..

You said the body high is intense. That was another thing I was gonna ask about; what does it feel like? And how physically intense is DMT in general? I'm not really a fan of drugs that are physically intense but I guess I'll embrace what I have to if it's part of DMT.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23457629 - 07/19/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

DMT was my first psychedelic to try from my own extraction.

The trips...I still don't know what to think about.
Almost all of my trips revolve around Egyptian culture. I've seen Egyptian hieroglyphics where two pharaohs were holding the same staff and facing each other. I've been inside of a pyramid where I met a mystical-looking woman with green eyes who came at me very quickly and stopped very suddenly as she scanned me as if searching my soul at which point I thought in my head "I just want to see something...anything amazing.", so she took me to this hidden door that looked like it was part of a wall and when she opened it there was this stone prism that had a metal sphere on top of it, and the sphere was generating (or possibly transporting?) an incredibly pure and powerful energy.. Like you could see the electricity coming off of it.
I flew over a red pyramid once, I assumed it was on Mars at the time.

In every DMT trip I have though, I see sacred geometry patterns.

Would I compare the two? I guess in a way you could....but not really. I find my mushroom trips seem to help me find answers, whereas DMT leaves me with so many questions.


Your dosage depends on how you plan on consuming it.

How "strange" is it? :ilold: You don't know the half of it.

And yes, if you're doing a breakthrough trip, it's intense. I would say it's freefalling-with-a-parachute intense...but then again I've never been skydiving.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457639 - 07/19/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It has to be in the top 5 most intense experiences a human could ever have in their lives.

As for the body high, think of being hugged snugly by this warm pulsing energy that just fills your body and just makes you feel amazing. i cant describe it haha I feel that this is what the body does because if you were to experience these types of trips without that euphoria you would probably lose your mind hahaha


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23457650 - 07/19/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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As for the body high, think of being hugged snugly by this warm pulsing energy that just fills your body and just makes you feel amazing.



I would agree with that. I'd say the body high comes on much more naturally than you'd expect.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457656 - 07/19/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Oh it does for sure. Its like you have felt it before but cant remember when... maybe the womb? haha


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457679 - 07/19/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Almost all of my trips revolve around Egyptian culture. I've seen Egyptian hieroglyphics where two pharaohs were holding the same staff and facing each other.




I hear this a lot about seeing Egyptian type stuff and like the eye of Ra. I wouldn't be surprised if those Egyptians were fucking with changa or something.

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Would I compare the two? I guess in a way you could....but not really. I find my mushroom trips seem to help me find answers, whereas DMT leaves me with so many questions.




Aw I know what you mean. Shrooms is a very disclosing and revealing substance, a wise teacher but I have certain mushroom trips that like you said will leave me with just so many more questions. Or maybe 1 answer but followed by a million more questions or 'what ifs'. People tend to say when they do DMT that they knew the meaning of life and everything towards the end but then just instantly forgot it all.

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Your dosage depends on how you plan on consuming it.




I'm assuming it would be 10 to 15mg of pure crystal in a glass bubble pie (meth pipe)


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23457698 - 07/19/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I always used a meth pipe too (I've never smoked meth mind you). Get a torch lighter if you can...they work so much better than regular BICs imo.

Yes, I'd say 15 - 20mg. It can be a bit tricky in a meth pipe at first and you can always stop hitting it if you choose to. A full breakthrough trip is usually considered to be a 50mg dosage.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457720 - 07/19/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I brokethrough with 35 mg in my bong. The stuff i have is more jungle spice and not the pure white. I feel the spice is alot easier to smoke in bongs where it doesnt burn or liquify right away. Also it lasts alittle longer so it might add alittle more introspection to your trips.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23457725 - 07/19/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The stuff i have is more jungle spice




Would that be changa?


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457738 - 07/19/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I also always hear people say that DMT is not comparable to other psychedelics even ayahuasca in some sense doesn't compare to the "DMT Flash" so I'm still just wondering what is it specifically that makes it so different from everything else? Is it just the fact that you literally feel transported or is it due to the incompressible nature of it?


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23457751 - 07/19/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I also always hear people say that DMT is not comparable to other psychedelics even ayahuasca in some sense doesn't compare to the "DMT Flash" so I'm still just wondering what is it specifically that makes it so different from everything else? Is it just the fact that you literally feel transported or is it due to the incompressible nature of it?



Describe the color red to a blind person.

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The stuff i have is more jungle spice




Would that be changa?



No, changa is infusing DMT into an herb.

Jungle spice is when you have other psychoactive alkaloids besides DMT from the plant you extracted from in your spice.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23457763 - 07/19/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Changa is herbs infused with DMT. Jungle spice is pure NN DMT extract but still with some plant resins still in it. These can sometimes contain other chemicals that will prolong the experience or make it far more visual. I find the white stuff not as visual until you really hit that certain point where the jungle spice will have you seeing your world covered in fractals and kalaidascopic worms overlaying your entire vision constantly pulsing inwards on themselves at amazing speeds with hundreds of colors flashing through them. Oh and dont forget the sandscript text that will cover everything too. I see it allover peoples faces like its the code to the makeup of humans or something hahaha


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23457781 - 07/19/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Describe the color red to a blind person.




Oh ok so the major difference between it and other psychs isn't discernible? Or describable which I guess makes sense I just thought people simply said it was different because of the sheer intensity or hyperspace aspect.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23457793 - 07/19/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its of its own thats for sure bro. Ive read that a DMT trip is quite simmilar to a NDE . Not sure how much i believe that but thats interesting none the less.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23457810 - 07/19/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ive read that a DMT trip is quite simmilar to a NDE . Not sure how much i believe that but thats interesting none the less.




Well I've heard stories of both and they both sound one in the same most of the time. I see people who have NDE say things that are very psychedelic, very tryptaminesque


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23457829 - 07/19/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Describe the color red to a blind person.




Oh ok so the major difference between it and other psychs isn't discernible? Or describable which I guess makes sense I just thought people simply said it was different because of the sheer intensity or hyperspace aspect.



Whatever you think it is, it's so much more.
Whatever I tell you it is, it's so much more.
What I think it is, it's so much more.
What you think it is when you do it, it's so much more.

Like I said, I don't know what to think about DMT personally. It's beautiful and I'm thankful for everything its shown me, but it really just leaves me speechless. It's hard for me to compare one thing I definitely don't understand to something that I hardly understand.

Honestly, the best I can answer your question is that mushrooms unfold this world for me. It unwraps the "coding" and "games" of the world for me and it helps me work on myself. Whereas DMT shows me that there's a greater purpose in the universe, that there's a MUCH bigger picture.

You can see how those two could be similar in ways...but you can also see that they're very different.


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23458083 - 07/19/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's a good answer thank you. Yep definitely unfolds and shows the biological/mental "game"


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Re: Small dose of DMT first time [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23458168 - 07/20/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I love sub break thru DMT doses. I actually use DMT in this way the most.

Its very relaxing, sedating... so comfy Im not gunna get up body high coupled with CEVs of a very colorful and vivix nature, OEVs too.

Its a lot like a mushroom or acid peak


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