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#23457361 - 07/19/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Republicans. Fewer taxes no matter what; fuck the common good. Slash expenditures designed to help the poor and disabled; fuck the poor and disabled. The acquisition and protection of private property is the highest good. Every-man-for-himself is the highest good. Any notion of community and social cohesion is anathema. Republicans.
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Its not that cut and dried It comes down to over population Within chaos there will always be oppurtunist,s Say no to immigration,that's modern mans biggest threat
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DividedQuantum said: Republicans. Fewer taxes no matter what; fuck the common good. Slash expenditures designed to help the poor and disabled; fuck the poor and disabled. The acquisition and protection of private property is the highest good. Every-man-for-himself is the highest good. Any notion of community and social cohesion is anathema. Republicans.
We are not suppose to care about the Disable, but only let our government create them by letting corporations to take control of what we eat and drink. And remember, the first school shooting, the columbine shooting happened after gmo's were on the market. But Obamas are not letting there own children put that stuff into their bodies, but okaying it for human consumption. And so do you really care about the disable, or are you just trolling around?
Mental Health Facts CHILDREN & TEENS Fact: 1 in 5 children ages 13-18 have, or will have a serious mental illness.1 Impact Warning Signs Suicide 20% 11% 10% 8% 20% of youth ages 13-18 live with a mental health condition1 11% of youth have a mood disorder 1 10% of youth have a behavior or conduct disorder 1 8% of youth have an anxiety disorder 1 http://www.nami.org/getattachment/Learn-More/Mental-Health-by-the-Numbers/childrenmhfacts.pdf
GMOs Impact on Gut and Mental Health http://schoolfood.info/?p=412
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Rethugs always throw the poor under the bus so they can get a bigger tax break. It is what they do.
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fivepointer said: Rethugs always throw the poor under the bus so they can get a bigger tax break. It is what they do.
And when did the largest wealth and income inequality in 80 years take place? Under Obama!
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/barack-obama-successfully-rich-richer/
"The gap between the rich and poor has widened more under Obama than any other President"
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#23459332 - 07/20/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: And when did the largest wealth and income inequality in 80 years take place? Under Obama!
He failed to restore taxes on the wealthy.
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qman said: And when did the largest wealth and income inequality in 80 years take place? Under Obama!
He failed to restore taxes on the wealthy.
That's only one factor, fiscal and monetary policy were also huge factors.
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#23459359 - 07/20/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: He failed to restore taxes on the wealthy.
That's only one factor, fiscal and monetary policy were also huge factors.
Not restoring taxes on the wealthy IS fiscal policy.
I don't know what monetary policy you think increased the income gap.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: He failed to restore taxes on the wealthy.
That's only one factor, fiscal and monetary policy were also huge factors.
Not restoring taxes on the wealthy IS fiscal policy.
I don't know what monetary policy you think increased the income gap.
Taxation policy is one part of fiscal policy.
You don't know what part of monetary policy increased the wealth gap, which ultimately increases the income gap as well?
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#23459459 - 07/20/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Not restoring taxes on the wealthy IS fiscal policy.
Taxation policy is one part of fiscal policy.
Exactly. Not increasing taxes on the wealthy was a huge reason for the growth in the income gap.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I don't know what monetary policy you think increased the income gap.
You don't know what part of monetary policy increased the wealth gap, which ultimately increases the income gap as well?
I don't know what monetary policy you think increased the income gap. Care to share?
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#23459476 - 07/20/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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For the record, I'm agreeing with you that Obama is responsible for the increased income gap, because he didn't increase taxes on the rich.
I'm just curious if you think there are other more significant reasons to blame him, and if so, what those reasons specifically are.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Not restoring taxes on the wealthy IS fiscal policy.
Taxation policy is one part of fiscal policy.
Exactly. Not increasing taxes on the wealthy was a huge reason for the growth in the income gap.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I don't know what monetary policy you think increased the income gap.
You don't know what part of monetary policy increased the wealth gap, which ultimately increases the income gap as well?
I don't know what monetary policy you think increased the income gap. Care to share?
You don't think bidding up financial assets with QE didn't create capital gains, which can ultimately be reinvested to create a larger stream of income?
I make $30 million in capital gains thanks to QE, I reinvest my profits into income producing investments to increase my income, why is this a difficult concept to understand?
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#23459498 - 07/20/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: You don't think bidding up financial assets with QE didn't create capital gains, which can ultimately be reinvested to create a larger stream of income?
I make $30 million in capital gains thanks to QE, I reinvest my profits into income producing investments to increase my income, why is this a difficult concept to understand?
I get it. Rich people have a larger share of income from capital gains than earned income. Obama should have taxed that at least as much as earned income, but he gave the wealthy a big tax break.
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qman said: You don't think bidding up financial assets with QE didn't create capital gains, which can ultimately be reinvested to create a larger stream of income?
I make $30 million in capital gains thanks to QE, I reinvest my profits into income producing investments to increase my income, why is this a difficult concept to understand?
I get it. Rich people have a larger share of income from capital gains than earned income. Obama should have taxed that at least as much as earned income, but he gave the wealthy a big tax break.
Or how about instead of increasing taxes on the thieves, don't create a policy which produces the inequality in the first place!!
This chasing down the wealth through taxation isn't going to work, the rich aren't going to give it away to the peasants, we need to change the structures which create these inequalities.
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#23459679 - 07/20/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: how about instead of increasing taxes on the thieves, don't create a policy which produces the inequality in the first place!!
Wealth inequality is the natural result of capitalism without Government intervention. I've asked many times for an example of where a strong middle class was created without Government intervention, and to date no one has been able to answer that.
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qman said: This chasing down the wealth through taxation isn't going to work, the rich aren't going to give it away to the peasants, we need to change the structures which create these inequalities.
But it DOES works. Just look at ANY country with a strong middle class.
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qman said: how about instead of increasing taxes on the thieves, don't create a policy which produces the inequality in the first place!!
Wealth inequality is the natural result of capitalism without Government intervention. I've asked many times for an example of where a strong middle class was created without Government intervention, and to date no one has been able to answer that.
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qman said: This chasing down the wealth through taxation isn't going to work, the rich aren't going to give it away to the peasants, we need to change the structures which create these inequalities.
But it DOES works. Just look at ANY country with a strong middle class.
Flooding the economy with illegal workers and then shipping jobs out of the US fucks over the middle class.
How's chasing down the inequality through taxation been working for this country?
When wages are strong and jobs are plentiful, we don't have to count on corrupt politicians to redistribute wealth, why do you trust these clowns with your economic well-being?
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qman said: Flooding the economy with illegal workers and then shipping jobs out of the US fucks over the middle class.
The only way to stop that is through Government intervention.
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qman said: How's chasing down the inequality through taxation been working for this country?
It worked incredibly well, until we stopped doing it in the early 80's. That's when inequality really started to grow.
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qman said: When wages are strong and jobs are plentiful, we don't have to count on corrupt politicians to redistribute wealth, why do you trust these clowns with your economic well-being?
Oh really? Can you show us a country with a strong middle class where Government didn't take a strong role in creating it?
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DividedQuantum said: Republicans. Fewer taxes no matter what; fuck the common good. Slash expenditures designed to help the poor and disabled; fuck the poor and disabled. The acquisition and protection of private property is the highest good. Every-man-for-himself is the highest good. Any notion of community and social cohesion is anathema. Republicans.
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Douglas Howard said: And remember, the first school shooting, the columbine shooting
Actually, the first school shooting happened in 1764, when three American Indians attacked a school and killed 9 kids and the schoolmaster. The earliest school shooting perpetrated by a current student took place in 1840, when a pissed off student brought a pistol and shot one of his professors. I'm gonna go ahead and say GMOs had nothing to do with those.
Plus, the deadliest school massacre in US history was in 1927, when a mentally unstable farmer rigged a school to blow and killed 38 kids, 6 adults, and injured 58 more.
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qman said: How's chasing down the inequality through taxation been working for this country?
Well, if we look at some of those times of nostalgic prosperity, 1950's postwar America tends to stand out. While the fact that it was "postwar" probably played a factor in the booming economy, the average tax rate at the time was 92% on the top 0.1%. Interestingly, this coincides with the emergence of the middle class. Seems that chasing down inequality through taxation worked great, right up until we just kind of stopped doing it.
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Douglas Howard said: And remember, the first school shooting, the columbine shooting
Actually, the first school shooting happened in 1764, when three American Indians attacked a school and killed 9 kids and the schoolmaster. The earliest school shooting perpetrated by a current student took place in 1840, when a pissed off student brought a pistol and shot one of his professors. I'm gonna go ahead and say GMOs had nothing to do with those.
Plus, the deadliest school massacre in US history was in 1927, when a mentally unstable farmer rigged a school to blow and killed 38 kids, 6 adults, and injured 58 more.
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qman said: How's chasing down the inequality through taxation been working for this country?
Well, if we look at some of those times of nostalgic prosperity, 1950's postwar America tends to stand out. While the fact that it was "postwar" probably played a factor in the booming economy, the average tax rate at the time was 92% on the top 0.1%. Interestingly, this coincides with the emergence of the middle class. Seems that chasing down inequality through taxation worked great, right up until we just kind of stopped doing it.
I know about the Texas shooting. But I'm talking about the constant flow of school shootings and the rest of them; like the theaters and so on.. We had mental illness all throughout our history. Like Charles Manson and so on. But the increasement of mass shooting shows that people are having problems of resolving issues between others. Even I have seen law enforcement officials are showing weird behaviors as if they are not comprehending at all what they are doing, as if they are space cadets. I has to be careful in what I have to say around others, that it is making me feel uncomfortable being in the public. A friend of mines had told me that this generation of people is not the same as when we were their age ( But we weren't aware of gmo's at the time when he had said that statement). But how can someone that were born around the time of gmo's were out on the market can see the differences between how it were before. The politicians knows this, but they are being paid not to mention it, but to act dumb-founded, as if nothing is going on, that we are just having another ordinary days of problems. There has been times that we all feels as if we want to shoot up someone for giving us a bad time, but we just laugh about afterwards. But now people are reacting on their impulses, that they are not thinking of the consequences in what will happen afterwards.
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