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How often can one trip without any negative long term effects?
#23456703 - 07/19/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can you trip 2 - 3 times a month without any negative long term effects? Can weekly tripping "fuck you up"? If so, are there individuals that would be completely fine from very frequent tripping?
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Aik]
#23456773 - 07/19/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some people freak out from one trip some trip weekly. There's no definite answer for this. Listen to your body/mind.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Aik] 1
#23456775 - 07/19/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The only negatives you may experience are psychological, the physical effects are bare none
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23456799 - 07/19/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been tripping weekly for several months. I don't think you could experience any negative effects besides maybe having a very bad trip and it leaving some kind of bad psychological scar. But for me, even the couple of bad trips I've had did not leave me in any negative state or have any negative after-effects when the trip was over. I've even learned from my bad trips.
So yeah. For me I've never had anything bad happen to me from tripping. I've only had some uncomfortable experiences while tripping. But those were not things to push away, but things to embrace or try to learn from. Just about every trip I have leaves me feeling great and optimistic for days afterwards. I often trip on a high-dose of mushrooms the day before work and I feel completely fine. I haven't noticed any negative effects on my memory or ability to concentrate either.
I also eat fairly healthy I think, but I agree, there really are no physical effects except for maybe feeling a little weak or tired after a mushroom trip or something. But that fades quickly and is definitely not long term.
I also would feel most safe taking Tryptamines very often as opposed to Phenethylamines. But I'm pretty sure either are safe. MDMA is obviously another story.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: mctaveesh]
#23457203 - 07/19/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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A lot. I tripped 4 times in one week last week. Have done other weeks not in a row of course.
The thing is you must treat your body like a temple. Nutrition , sleep , etc. Must be prestine.
you need a healthy mind and body to endure strenuous trips.
The negative effects would only be introduced if you don't see the negative effects and stop them.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Broly]
#23457235 - 07/19/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can pretty much trip as often as you want/can psychologically handle and by want, I mean your true desire not the desire to abuse it as an escape or party drug.
There is no guarantee when or if long term negatives will occur though, if someone like Terrence Mckenna could have such a devastating bad trip I think we should keep in mind the possibility it could happen to any one of us as well.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23457254 - 07/19/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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When did Terence have a devastatingly bad trip? I don't mean that in an argumentative way, I'm just curious because I would like to hear what happened in his trip.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kush_Zombie] 1
#23457263 - 07/19/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: When did Terence have a devastatingly bad trip? I don't mean that in an argumentative way, I'm just curious because I would like to hear what happened in his trip.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23457264 - 07/19/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's all about your set and setting, including your state of mind. Any negativity surrounding you externally and internally will amplify on shrooms.
All of my negative trips were caused by negative people in the area or a negative thought I had before you started.
Always make sure you're comfortable and meditate a little before to clear your mind.
@Kush_Zombie- He had a bad trip in the 80's that never made him eat shrooms again. Come on brah, everyone knows that story, haha.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23457267 - 07/19/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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His last mushroom trip. I don't remember the dose but it terrified him and he didn't touch them again after that.
This has gone under the radar because it kind of alters the image of terrence. A huge icon that promoted musbrooms extensively suddenly has a horror trip , now that doeant look to good now does it.
I believe Terrence McKenna brushed lightly upon what happened also. It's out there just google it.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kinshino]
#23457278 - 07/19/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Set and setting can't be stressed enough , even the most experienced tripper can get mind fucked by a bad setting. My only bad trip was because I was in the wrong mind frame and setting. The room turned evil and the printer looked evil , it was an older printer. What really made me flip my lid was looking in the mirror.
Also you wish you were in the 5th dimension....
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Broly]
#23457285 - 07/19/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I was younger I would do LSD and shrooms weekly, sometimes even more, and it really got to me after a while. Since then, I've decided to only trip twice monthly (sometimes less), and that hasn't given me any issues.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: poponon]
#23457308 - 07/19/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting. Thank you for linking that to me.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Broly] 1
#23457330 - 07/19/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Broly said: His last mushroom trip. I don't remember the dose but it terrified him and he didn't touch them again after that.
This has gone under the radar because it kind of alters the image of terrence. A huge icon that promoted musbrooms extensively suddenly has a horror trip , now that doeant look to good now does it.
I believe Terrence McKenna brushed lightly upon what happened also. It's out there just google it.
Why doesn't it look good? He's only human and these are very powerful teachers. He's still alright by me I always took what he said with skepticism anyways but still appreciated his thoughts and how they made me think on a bigger scale at times. Hell, it's not like I don't contradict myself and make myself out to be a hypocrite when I talk about these things. It doesn't mean I think the world should brush off everything I say and look down on me for it.
Perhaps a reason he didn't talk about it was because he didn't want people getting a bad idea about mushrooms and inducing more bad trips due to paranoia. Maybe he was embarrassed. Doesn't really matter to me or change how I saw him; an intelligent being trying to do the best he knows how with what he has.
Anyways, I'm done white knighting for Terence, I just wanted to say that real quick. I suppose it's mostly directed at the comments in the podcast I read more than it is you Broly.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: jds]
#23457350 - 07/19/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree. I've always thought he was a bit 'woo-woo' but he definitely has a lot of insightful stuff to say as well. Not to mention he way of speaking is some of the most eloquent stuff I've ever heard. He's entertaining to listen to in the least.
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jds said: When I was younger I would do LSD and shrooms weekly, sometimes even more, and it really got to me after a while. Since then, I've decided to only trip twice monthly (sometimes less), and that hasn't given me any issues.
I've had a very similar experience. Used a bunch when i was younger - then sort of grew out of it and used it very sparingly for a while. maybe once or twice a year. I've gotten back into it recently taking 2 and 3 weeks breaks. Seems to be working out so far - I'm realizing and integrating a lot of positive changes.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: poponon]
#23457454 - 07/19/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is so random..
I can't remember where I read it, I just saw it a few minutes ago...
But it said something about him being on his death bed and saying something along the lines of (not accurate quoting) "You think life is about all these ideas and goals but it's not...it's about love."
That made me think a bit..
Don't we have to not love in order to love? Don't we have to have ideas in order to get to a spot where we can be loved back? Or is unconditional love truly the best way?
Like yes...I could take all of my possessions right now and go give them to people in need and dedicate my life to "love"...but if I were to be selfish and focus on myself, then I could begin focusing on other people and give more in the long run. I would be able to do more when I was stable rather than giving everything I have of my being away (emotionally and physically).
If it takes money to make money, doesn't it take money to give money? Not to say that money is love, but I think you get the idea of what I'm trying to say (hopefully).
Does there have to be a balance of being selfish and loving? Does loving yourself count?
It's sounds so easy and simple to say "The point of life is to love, we've been doing it wrong this whole time." but can love live without hate? When is it okay to make yourself feel secure and safe in life while others suffer? When is it not okay?
I think I'm looking way too far into it and I think I stopped making sense halfway through this post but it made me think and left me slightly confused to the point I felt the need to get on here and type out this gibberish that sounded much better in my head.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kush_Zombie] 1
#23457472 - 07/19/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You need to love yourself first. Put yourself first, but be kind and share what you have with others.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23457487 - 07/19/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That was a much shorter and simpler reply than I was expecting. And very well put.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23457543 - 07/19/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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God is infinite love. Love is truly is all their is , everything else is simply an illusion.
If you ever experienced love on psycjedelics then you know its possible.
Love your enemies even. Nothing can diminish love.
It's a simple concept but very hard to apply.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23457549 - 07/19/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been tripping pretty much weekly since February of this year.
No negative side effects to speak of. I have noticed a slight reduction in appetite and some weight loss, likely due to fasting the day of the trip. Psychologically, there have been only positive effects.
This past weekend, however, I did experience a rather negative effect - my usual dose left me with all of the visuals but none of the head space. Had to kick up the dose with a lemon tek shot and smoke a lot of herb in order to get there. A very frustrating experience, which has led me to take a few week's hiatus in order to return to baseline.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23457573 - 07/19/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Broly said: Love is truly is all their is.
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Kush_Zombie said: but can love live without hate?
Now that I think about it, there was another Shroomerite recently who said something about hate not existing. That it was only a much lower form of love but that hate was still, in its most basic form, a form of love.
Interesting concept.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23457638 - 07/19/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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Broly said: Love is truly is all their is.
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Kush_Zombie said: but can love live without hate?
Now that I think about it, there was another Shroomerite recently who said something about hate not existing. That it was only a much lower form of love but that hate was still, in its most basic form, a form of love.
Interesting concept.
That makes sense to me. If you hate someone, you still "care" about them.
Having hatred for someone is better than having no feeling...
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Aik]
#23458159 - 07/20/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have fried 10 times the since june 27 and done shrooms three times and work two jobs and go to college. I would say as long as your psyche stays strong and u have a good grip on reality. The only negative effect i have experienced is a slight habit forming for tripping weekly, is that a good thing? considering the fact i have a quarter of a vile left, well see 
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23458619 - 07/20/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well as long as you dont feel any deficiency if you don't trip according to your habit, then your habit is not a psychological addiction and is fine.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23463011 - 07/21/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alprazolambodia, Quote:
i have fried 10 times the since june 27 and done shrooms three times and work two jobs and go to college.
what do your days in between tripping feel like? if you smoke as well, d'you feel a mental imprint from the past trip(s)? i feel like i can get my eyes to see recurring patterns or the 'eternal tapestry' when i smoke during post-trip days
also how do you function 2 jobs and college simultaneously to tripping pretty impressive
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: SnowGypsy]
#23463596 - 07/21/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Overdoing it makes it loose the wonder and magical quality, trying to force it farther usually results in a bad trip. Best to treat it like a sacrament for the soul or a potent medicine for fixing the ills of the mind.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: SnowGypsy]
#23464800 - 07/22/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah everytime I look at my iPhone it looks all fuzzy like when your 250mics deep and everything has a film around it. And the letters when I type look wierd too(everything has that teams green distortion look to it); they don't squiggle and move around like when I'm trippin, but once again they r fuzzy and wierd looking it hard to describe. As for weed, I smoke way too much THC; I dab daily and also smoke bud. When I first started doing LSD I noticed my cannabis highs would be more introspective and sometimes give me wierd thought . Now that I've used LSD over 10 times in the last 22 days, smoking weed just gets me high. If im not tripping on L, I am feeling some sort of afterglow. I know this will not last forever, it's only because I have been dropping more than ever.. I would say after about 5-7 days my vision starts getting completely clear. And as for college and my jobs, I honestly have no idea all my friends ask me the same thing. The biggest negative effect is that if Injest 200mics after going to school for 8 hours, once I sober up from the trip, all I remeber from the whole day is the trip unless I think super hard(it's like remembering things when After getting drunk or taking a benzo) *FYI* the reason I dropped so much in such a short period of time was for the sake of my own experimentation to understand how LSD reacts with me under various circumstances and tolerances. I am now cutting back to a once every 1 or 2 weeks(sorry for the long reply!) Oh and it is def. NOT as magical anymore, my mind stays VERY clear headed unless I take at least 200mics or take a 1 week break. **another quitck sidenote** One time I dropped L on a Friday and stayed up all night and then decided to drop again on Saturday night(not smart I know) and had a great trip until I injested the third tab and had a seizure around 4:30-5am... This was over a year ago and my second time every dosing....Moral of story? Make sure the mind is well rested before tripping
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23464809 - 07/22/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah the magic is essentially gone and it's more like a weed high now. For example, I injested 100mics today and met up with a couple different buddies who didn't notice I was tripping. Well "tripping" as in seeing some distortions and seeing things vibrate like a bees wings. My mind was 85% clear and I was also smoking weed the whole time too. When I started the experiment on the 27th, my time would get SOO distorted that 1 minute would feel like 3 hours and now the high is NOTHING like that unless I take a high dose. I'm taking a T break cause I don't wanna waste anymore L haha.
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Re: How often can one trip without any negative long term effects? [Re: Alprazolambodia]
#23464815 - 07/22/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh and one last thing to bore you guys even more...I have also realized that any dose under 300mics is not strong enough to create a bad trip, in fact, I do not believe in bad trips. I have been in awful situations while extremely inebriated it since my psyche is strong, I don't let it get to me. I tend to fry by myself because I can control set and setting, no limitations on my thoughts, and people who aren't tripping while I am usually annoy me by asking all sorts of unreasonable questions. Some food for thought..Thats the end of my essay lol
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