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Fruit Cakes
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to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain?
#23456614 - 07/19/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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to Soak and sterilize or not before using VERMICULITE on Rye Grain?, i would really like to know please!
Edited by Fruit Cakes (07/19/16 03:49 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: Fruit Cakes]
#23456631 - 07/19/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Link to the TEK you're following?
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23456634 - 07/19/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Verm and rye?
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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Fruit Cakes
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23456638 - 07/19/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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originally was following Shiva Shanti on youtubes TEK, and still am, but this is the Shiva's (inter-mingled within video which shows BRF TEK as well ) Rye Grain TEK, and i need to know if i should use straight verm, and will it fruit like hpoo and verm, cause thats what im preparing for next is the hpoo, but in this batch of rye grain, ill be needing information on simple verm casing, like should i sterilize it and moisten it before sterilization, should i let it sit for 24 hours for more sterile procedure (as endo-spore and what not would possibly germinate like in rye grains) correct me if i am wrong on that, that is if u want to, seems like this might get lengthy
Edited by Fruit Cakes (07/19/16 04:00 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23456687 - 07/19/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can put your rye spawn in a tray cover it with verm right out of the bag and spray it wet.
Pretty low yield method usually
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joshxjosh
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23456709 - 07/19/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4576865
you can ignore the incubation chamber, just follow the instructions for the rye prep and pc
if you want to watch a video, RR made a awesome website http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Grain-Preparation
Edited by joshxjosh (07/19/16 04:24 PM)
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Fruit Cakes
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: joshxjosh]
#23456731 - 07/19/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have watched the videos, but i cant seem to simply find 1 answer, to soak, or not to soak and simmer the verm if you are casing with it, if you do indeed need to moisten it then sterilize , let cool down and use for casing is what im needing anaswer 2, cause i already got colonized grain man and its ready to fruti
Edited by Fruit Cakes (07/19/16 04:28 PM)
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Munchauzen


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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23456737 - 07/19/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You already got your answer.
Quote:
Trusted Cultivator said: You can put your rye spawn in a tray cover it with verm right out of the bag and spray it wet.
Pretty low yield method usually
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Fruit Cakes
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23456744 - 07/19/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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just realized this post, good info and thank you, maybe you can tell me about Hpoo and Coir Yeilds>?
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Munchauzen


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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: Fruit Cakes]
#23456806 - 07/19/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They yield considerably more.
Simply casing grains is a poor method. You want to spawn grains to a bulk substrate, then potentially apply a casing layer.
For a beginner I recommend coir. It's very forgiving and super easy to prepare. You literally can't fuck up coir.
Spawning grains to bulk is the one of the best ways to maximize your yield.
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Fruit Cakes
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23456814 - 07/19/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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you mean JUST coir? or hpoo + coir lol, if so .. maybe you can tell me what kind of a person is producing this stuff looool, hopefully this isnt considered sales, idk if thats allowed here but ya. P.S if i wanted to experiement with 350ml of sub, or more (calculating from looking at my 500ml jars lol) -> and just kinda used this moistened NON pressure canned vermiculite, so you know it isnt sterilized but, the P.H in my tap water is 6.5 .... so ill moisten the verm with it... till u cant get a drop of water out of it by squeeezing is wat i intend to moisten the verm water level to. ( then i will mist to moisten needed)please tell me if this is the wrong procedure to casing.... lol 2 of 12 jars worked cause i used a 11.6PSI pressire COOKER, instnatly went out and bought All-Americam Presto Pessure canner , HUGE one as well lol , P.S i am 20 days into my first colonized ever rye grain, ( i have never done mycelial growing before) so yes this is my first ever try at this thanks for help all ;D
Edited by Fruit Cakes (07/19/16 05:04 PM)
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Munchauzen


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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: Fruit Cakes]
#23456896 - 07/19/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I say spawn to coir, it's generally understood to be coir, vermiculite, and gypsum. Verm and gypsum are so helpful that it's almost a given to include them.
No hpoo. For a beginner it is not what I advise.
All that matters is if your verm is wet. Get it wet however you like.
Edited by Munchauzen (07/19/16 06:38 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23456908 - 07/19/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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check out the first 3 links in my signature and click around in the AMU and TNF. the methods there are new, up to date, time tested, results proven.
a lot of what you're bringing up has been disregarded ten years ago
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Fruit Cakes
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Re: to Soak and sterilize or not to with VERMICULITE on Rye Grain? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23457060 - 07/19/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU ;D LOOOL MAAAAAN I CANT BELVE IT, MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS.. THANK THE GODS FOR CREATING THS WEBSITE - p.s I JUUUST CASED MY FIRST 350ML+ OF SUBSTRATE... loool i inoculated a jar with live hyphal knots and it started to multiply itself within 2 days man, literly i see a few new grains within 2-3 days LOL adn with multi spore inoculation... i only seen it get colonized nand ready to case after about 14-16 days lol P.S i moisted my verm and put a layer on without sterilization, that is the end of the post lol thanks again all
Edited by Fruit Cakes (07/19/16 06:10 PM)
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