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InvisibleShroomyJay
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is it possible to fruit ps. mexicana off of rye berries? *DELETED* *DELETED*
    #23454908 - 07/19/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: is it possible to fruit ps. mexicana off of rye berries? [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #23454958 - 07/19/16 03:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I found that my galindoi is also a little bit stubborn to fruit. So far I haven't been able to get my finger on what it needs due to my first try being bacterial and consequent tries being is a semi-heatwave.

A couple of pointers I can throw at you is to make sure that your casing is not being colonized. Re-case if that happens, I noticed that most of my shrooms grew from the part of the sub that the casing wasn't colonized. Also, don't mist them as much as you do with cubes, they don't need that much water and it can hinder fruiting.

Hope you get something going soon, I'll be trying again once the heat dies down a little. Gonna be sticking to a few cube grows until summer passes.

Edit:

Oh and by the way, the grain of choice will not determine if your mycelium will fruit or not. Grain preference for sclerotia producers are mainly targeted at invitro sclerotia cultivation. They say that RGS is the easiest grain to clean, that's why they like to use it. Any grain will work for bulk spawning, it's just a nutrient source.

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Re: is it possible to fruit ps. mexicana off of rye berries? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23457995 - 07/19/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the advice and info! As you can see from my pic, the myc hasn't grown into the casing too much, even after three weeks.




I did find this post which claims mexicana can even fruit off of potato dextrose agar, so what you say makes sense, but then there are posts like this which claim fruiting success with RGS only.

Here's someone who waited 35 days for his first mexi pins, so I guess I should just wait and see...

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Re: is it possible to fruit ps. mexicana off of rye berries? [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #23458454 - 07/20/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That one you linked about growin on RGS is still cased. He means to say that he threw some grains in a tray, cased and fruited.

In one of Stonesun's growlogs he got pins after 7-8 days. I suspect that if you get the conditions just right, they will fruit in the same timeframe that cubes do. I haven't had much experience yet with them so I can't really say either way. I do know that experienced cultivators do not wait 30 days for them to fruit, that's for sure.

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Re: is it possible to fruit ps. mexicana off of rye berries? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23458487 - 07/20/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I was referring to this part:

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We never had any fruiting problems on grass seed (and boy can those mexicana fruit abundantly!. Other grains such as rye, millet and birdseed didn't produce any mushrooms.



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Re: is it possible to fruit ps. mexicana off of rye berries? [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #23458530 - 07/20/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

What you should have taken notice of is this.

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mexicana won't pin [Re: Champion des Champignons] +
    #328454 - 05/29/01 07:58 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)




Don't read anything older than 5 years if you don't want to be fed bullshit. We use grains for their high nutrient source, they are all good. You can even grow shrooms off corn which is probably the one with the least nutrients. The only difference in what grain you should use is availability, ease of prep and price. If growing sclerotia, ease of harvest should also be taken into account but it's not that big a deal. Use any grain that is cheap and easy for you to prep.

15 years ago people use to blame a lot of different shit for a lot of different problems. You can rest assured that your grains are just as good as any other. Your true problem is evironmental. Try to get your finger on what they like and they will fruit no problem.

RR preferred rye grain for sclerotia over any other type of grain anyway.

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