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Is this blobs or contamination?
    #23453666 - 07/18/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just have a question about these two BRF cakes i have.

THEY are both producing fruits, just theyve been super duper slow and skinny/small fruits. And only one or two big ones per cake.

I just don't know about them.. Ive read about marshmellow blobs and other types of mutant pins but these arnt fitting those description to well.

What do you all think? Im honestly ready to toss them cause there freaking me out a bit.. Lol




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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess] * 1
    #23453689 - 07/18/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

just a cake that's been neglected, or cared for in all the wrong ways. post a picture of the fruiting chamber


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23453910 - 07/18/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ok i will.
But thats the thing. Theres 10 other cakes with them and they are the only 2 doing that. Thats what doesnt make sense.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23453913 - 07/18/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ive gotten like 2 ounces from just 2 cakes that are in the same chamb


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23453942 - 07/18/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

2 oz dry??


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23454181 - 07/18/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why are your cakes so blue?

Have you checked https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17231150


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23455299 - 07/19/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well it wast quite 2.. More like little over 1 oz.

Sorry ive just been trippin too much this week was a little confused. BBt i just dontt understand whats wrong with them.. I think im going to dunk them..theyre not unusually light with weight tho..


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Frommer]
    #23455305 - 07/19/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Why are your cakes so blue?

Have you checked https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17231150




Thats what i mean ^
They look like hyphal knots but blue.

They werw good and growing knots until those two cakes pushed out like 1 huge 2 g fruut, then the knots turned blue. And they dont seem to be coming back


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455336 - 07/19/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Goddess, they turned that way because they were forced to abort. Whenever you have more pins than moisture/FAE to support the growth, they abort. APE is infamous for aborting it's little ass off.

When TC said they looked neglected, that's what happened. Once they abort, they don't start growing again. So, if your cakes got dry, or the FC didn't support enough air movement for them, they stall and then stop. No watering or fanning will get those back, but at least they're good to eat.

When you do your dunk and roll at birth, try and add more verm. Really get it on there, put a little mound on top. Wait a good 30-40minutes before lightly misting the cakes until they glisten. Next time you get a bigger pinset like that, you'll need to consider bottom watering to support all that growth. You can set the cakes in clean saucers or lids or whatever of water. Just be sure to change the water daily at least.

Do you have a picture of your fruiting chamber?


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: dankington]
    #23455457 - 07/19/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ok cool. Thank you so much for your nice response. That makes sense.

But doesnt standing water at their base hurt them?

Also do you think these cakes are done?or should i try to dunk again.

Also i did do the double end casing after about a week if them being in the FC.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455465 - 07/19/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

man im really bummed i lost that huge beautiful pinset..
Sooo unfortunate. Oh well at lest i learned something!


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455476 - 07/19/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

don't fret!
set that cake in your SGFC in a dish of clean water. Change the water daily, $$$$$ Profit. You'll be amazed at what you can still get from that cake.

Wait to harvest until the veils start to tear.

but a couple fruits in the first pics look a little shabby. You may want to pick those before they get necrotic. The last pics have some beauties though.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455480 - 07/19/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Excessive bruising 99% of the time indicates it got too dry and didn't have enough moisture. Rolling in verm helps prevent this because it holds much more water on the surface of the mycelium.

It also means that they weren't getting misted enough. They even look dry in the pics, they need to be misted more frequently. Also try putting the cakes in a saucer of water when there's big pinsets so it can draw out more water.

As said by others take pics of your chamber and surrounding area.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455491 - 07/19/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Chambers actually looking good IMO. You can leave the door open and bring it further away from the wall for the best airflow, but still looking good to me. They just needed to be rolled in more verm and/or misted more frequently. Also left in a saucer of water.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: dankington]
    #23455493 - 07/19/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes dankington those ARE shabby compared to wat i was yeiylding!!


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23455502 - 07/19/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Excessive bruising 99% of the time indicates it got too dry and didn't have enough moisture. Rolling in verm helps prevent this because it holds much more water on the surface of the mycelium.

It also means that they weren't getting misted enough. They even look dry in the pics, they need to be misted more frequently. Also try putting the cakes in a saucer of water when there's big pinsets so it can draw out more water.

As said by others take pics of your chamber and surrounding area.





I def rolled, and i used a mix of fine and coarse. I will make sure to use more tho.
See i was actually misting like 5-6 times a day, with sometimes adding some extra water drops on top. I thought it was to much. Guess not. I will dunk that baby and do the saucer!

Thank you fellas ssoooooo much. Ive been trying so hard to make them happy!

About the saucer and water... Do i let that water evaporate like once or twice a day? Or make sure its there all the time, just changing it daily?
And how deep? Like a centimeter? Half a centimeter?


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23455521 - 07/19/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Chambers actually looking good IMO. You can leave the door open and bring it further away from the wall for the best airflow, but still looking good to me. They just needed to be rolled in more verm and/or misted more frequently. Also left in a saucer of water.




Mad season.. The FC is a foot n a half from my bed, thats what you see.. And 2 feet off the floor. That cool?
Maybe i should drill an extra couple holes to get better FAE?


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455529 - 07/19/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Change the water daily. And not deep at all like maybe 1/8-1/4 inch.

Just move it like another foot and a half from the bed. Middle of the room is always best. 2 feet high is plenty. You gotta mist the perlite down good once a day too :smile:.

You want to keep the mycelium/verm glistening with misting as well.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455535 - 07/19/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ive gotten some massives from the cakes... Like 2/3 g dry, and about 6, 7, inches long when picked.. Its just seeming like Thats all the cakes can handle putting out. Like those couplee giants take everything.. Is that how this works with cakes? Cause ive seen some epic canopys off cakes where theyre alllll like 4+ inches.

Im starting a bulk this weekend. Cakes are a bit more difficult for me.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23455539 - 07/19/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Change the water daily. And not deep at all like maybe 1/8-1/4 inch.

Just move it like another foot and a half from the bed. Middle of the room is always best. 2 feet high is plenty. You gotta mist the perlite down good once a day too :smile:.

You want to keep the mycelium/verm glistening with misting as well.





Awesomesauce... I got this. Just a bit of alters.

See everything i read while starting said "NO STANDING WATER! NO STANDING WATER on foil or base of cakes!!"

I wished id of known that with a giant pinset, its just the opposite.. Dammit i killed the poor giants.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455545 - 07/19/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They only support what they can with the water available. Leaving it in water/bottom watering helps SO much with big pinsets. Even in bulk.

Yeah bulk ftw. Good job making the leap. Have you looked into agar?


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23455560 - 07/19/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes! Agar! Hubby gets paod thursday, itll be ordered that night!!

I also have to finish my SAB to really start agar. Just wanna seal it a bit with PVC pipe and latex gloves.

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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess] * 1
    #23455569 - 07/19/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Still air box has no gloves sealed to it. You want to have the arm holes massive to reduce the piston effect of your arms going in and out. You also have to flame tools outside the box. With gloves attached how would you bring the tool out of the box to flame? Using PVC to make the holes more comfortable on your arms is good. Just don't seal the box with gloves.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455572 - 07/19/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Real quick, i should pick all of the blobs off of those cakes before dunking right? And eat them if therye not black?

But def. pick them off?


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23455586 - 07/19/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Still air box has no gloves sealed to it. You want to have the arm holes massive to reduce the piston effect of your arms going in and out. You also have to flame tools outside the box. With gloves attached how would you bring the tool out of the box to flame? Using PVC to make the holes more comfortable on your arms is good. Just don't seal the box with gloves.





Woah i didnt think about that.
Shit.
Ive seen some photos around here of some SABs and thats where i pulled the idea from.. I saw it just the other week.. Made out of a clasic sterlite bin.. Wtf. Im gonna try to find the lilnk to get your thoughts.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455604 - 07/19/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What he said about the SAB x 9000.
Congrats on taking the leap. Keep us posted, goddess. As for the aborts, I'd  carefully pick 'em before the bottom water. Less chance of getting gross.


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    #23455636 - 07/19/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Tyvek sleeves is what i need.


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: dankington]
    #23455646 - 07/19/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What he said about the SAB x 9000.
Congrats on taking the leap. Keep us posted, goddess. As for the aborts, I'd  carefully pick 'em before the bottom water. Less chance of getting gross.




Thank you !
I will try my best to keep updates. Im suurreee i will have questions about bulk.
Shit... Already thinking of a few. lol


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Re: Is this blobs or contamination? [Re: Shroom_Goddess]
    #23455651 - 07/19/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You don't need them, but they are nice. You can use a clean, fitted, long-sleeved shirt with good results.


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