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Chosternian
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Hbwr cwe questions
#23453227 - 07/18/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I read on a post that stated mixing a hbwr cwe with garlic cloves will kill the nausea and any side effects from the sickening alkaloids present in the seeds. I had some bad nausea my first time tripping on 10 seeds i was stuck in the bathroom trying not to puke xD i dont have any ginger and cant do a proper extraction so will this work on decreasing the side effects? Im planning on using 8 seeds
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I don't know, but what I can tell you is, if your body is telling you to puke, puke. Also I recommend dosing gradually. Please report back on the garlic if you go ahead with it. Personally I just use cold water and a squeeze of lemon, I dig these seeds.
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Chosternian
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Re: Hbwr cwe questions [Re: 3waesz]
#23463789 - 07/21/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea i decided to sublingualy take 10 seeds... no effects but a mild stimulant high i have 500 seeds so i might as well test various methods of consumption. I liked the trip down memory lane the seeds gave me after the nausea passed at the peak of the whole experience. Would building up a tolerance by taking a dose of one seed and increasing the dosage +1 everyday till i reach up to 10 or more seeds also increase my tolerance to the nauseating alkaloids in the seeds
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I doubt it. You would probably still get sick and just not trip as hard.
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Chosternian said: Would building up a tolerance by taking a dose of one seed and increasing the dosage +1 everyday till i reach up to 10 or more seeds also increase my tolerance to the nauseating alkaloids in the seeds
Yes it does, and the tolerance of the nauseating compounds lasts longer. So theoretically you can diminish nausea by microdosing one or two seeds for a few days before you take your large dose.
But I don't think it's a good idea to take raw ergots on a daily basis.
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Re: Hbwr cwe questions [Re: Pandemoon]
#23466297 - 07/22/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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But I don't think it's a good idea to take raw ergots on a daily basis.
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Yea I hear the vasocinstrictive can persist for more than a week; so those effects would accumulate with repeated dosing.
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Re: Hbwr cwe questions [Re: Pandemoon]
#23469845 - 07/23/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, i read about iso alcohol extraction and will try that instead, i found that the cwe with garlic still got me sick just not as much but i think it has to do with the flavoring ans smell the garlic gave the solution. I also will try microdosing. Are there any ways to obtain the sickening alkoloids by themselves? If so i plan on microdosing these alkaloids instead of taking the whole seed and building up my tolerance to the lsa unintentionally
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cannabis murders nausea
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With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: Hbwr cwe questions [Re: Blazeyy]
#23472037 - 07/24/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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most nausea yes. even shroom nausea is totally cured by one toke but when i got morning glory nausea weed barely helped. it took 2 hours for it to stop on its own. this is just my experience. nitrous also helps shroom body loads and anxiety really well (short term) but i havent tried it with LSA.
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True, depends on strain too ak' is decent and mango, some don't work for nausea for me, i think it's very hit n miss when it works it obliterates it but sometimes can do the opposite, i wouldn't wanna try seeds personally i mean i guess it's cheap n that but nausea and tripping isn't good, gotta have everything perfect imo or as close to perfect as possible, but i suppose a normal dose of lysergamides is different..
Then again.. i've only ever had 1p-lsd which is nearly identical though, i found it pretty gentle in comparison to psilocybin so maybe it's not as bad.. just don't like the idea personally cause the worst times ive had have been throwing up on mushrooms.. but each to their own n all that.
Good vibes either way to anyone doing this but i don't think you can avoid nausea looking at these seeds
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: Hbwr cwe questions [Re: Blazeyy] 1
#23477689 - 07/26/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea i can no longer imagine the taste without feeling a little sick cx i did a crude extraction using klean strip acetone on 50 seeds and after around 2 hours i filtered the solution let evaporate and added acetone back into the seed mush and am letting sit for a couple of days. The evaporated solution left a sort of oily resedue after being scraped off my pyrex dish. It contained no acetone smell but had a strong hbwr smell to it. I capsuled the scraped off material and after about an hour a noticable oil layer was forming. Im guessing this would need to be defatted to eliminate all nauseating compounds. I used a srynge and pulled out about 1/5 of what was collected and capsled. After 45 mins i noticed some vasoconstriction and a slight body high. An hour later i noticed slight cevs and had no problem walking around as i had no nausea or stomache pains. Im not sure if its just me but my pupils seemed to be only slightly dialated. It could have to do with potency but i wont know as im usually to sick on the seeds alone to be able to check dialation. Im still a little skeptical as i only had slight indicators that couldve been placebo. I will try adding lemon juice and smoke some weed to enhance the lsa
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Add a fresh peppermint sprig with cold vodka and some extract maybe some lemon juice then shake well to dissolve and react; dose while it's still cold. Bonus round (s): Try the same thing with cumin seed or cinnamon instead of peppermint and compare effect.
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Ive been wondering about the cumin seeds, do i need to do any kind of extraction or can i just ground up the seeds and add them to make lsh? also would ground up cinamon work instead of the extract?
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Let the cumin or cinnamon sit in the vodka over a couple days then filter and lightly acidify. Finally mix this tincture with the MG seed extract and make the mixture very cold before strongly shaking.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
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I tried the garlic clove cold water extraction and used 11 seeds. It definitely gave me nausea and I ended up puking. It was a pleasant experience, other than trying to not puke. The taste is horrendously awful in my opinion. Only way Ive never puked from hbwr is by crushing them into a pulp and putting them on your tongue for 15 minutes, swallowing very little or no saliva. Good luck!
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Herbgrower12 said: I tried the garlic clove cold water extraction... The taste is horrendously awful in my opinion.
Haha you kids and your dramatic taste buds. Go and eat a cacti, wash your mouth out with Ayahuasca and then tell me these seeds taste bad.
Personally I like to eat 30-40 in a CWE, although these are Indian variety which I understand are less potent. They make me less sick every time I take them, despite the fact I have increased dosage every time.
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