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Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit?
    #23452283 - 07/18/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

hi there,

went out and found a couple of loose patties that had cubes growing from visible mycelium on the outside. one of the patties had a cube that looked a little dry and the other had a cube that looked like it was still growing up.

i placed both of these patties in a tub, on a piece of foil, with the mycelium side up, and have been misted the tub a few times over the last ~48hrs. right now the tub is in a warm, dark place, with the lid closed.

the tub and lid were washed with soap and water, then wiped dry, and wiped down with alcohol. the spray bottle im using was cleaned with soap and water, then filled with tap water.

totally newbie here, not sure if this is even worth pursuing, advice??

Also here are some pics of the patties,



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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23452409 - 07/18/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This was literally just talked about in "the worst threads" thread.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23446497#23446497


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23452414 - 07/18/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i was about to say the same thing, supa! haha


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23452429 - 07/18/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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the tub and lid were washed with soap and water, then wiped dry, and wiped down with alcohol. the spray bottle im using was cleaned with soap and water, then filled with tap water.




Because a pile of shit you found outside needs a clean place to be, right? :lol:
Doubtful it will do much or anything, what you could do is look into agar and clone a wild fruit. Then Follow a current bulk tek from this site to grow a box full of them.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23452483 - 07/18/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fair enough, I'm sure this is worthy of a "worst of" post to most, below are some more specific questions


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i placed both of these patties in a tub, on a piece of foil, with the mycelium side up
Right now the mycelium is facing up, though they were found mycelium down. Did I screw up, or does it even matter?

have been misted the tub a few times over the last ~48hrs.
been trying to keep the walls and lid moist that there is always water beading on the walls and lid, do i need to worry about draining water that collects in the bottom of the tub?

right now the tub is in a warm, dark place, with the lid closed.
Is this correct? at what point, if any, should they get light? should I crack the lid to allow airflow? I want to be sure the environment is humid enough but I don't want to "choke them out", if that's even a thing

Also here are some pics of the patties,






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h0ldthedoor said:
the tub and lid were washed with soap and water, then wiped dry, and wiped down with alcohol. the spray bottle im using was cleaned with soap and water, then filled with tap water.




Because a pile of shit you found outside needs a clean place to be, right? :lol:
Doubtful it will do much or anything, what you could do is look into agar and clone a wild fruit. Then Follow a current bulk tek from this site to grow a box full of them.




That was my first thought, but feeling so bad for all the little mushies that never got to grow up (cannot tell you how many dried up little baby mushies were out there), figured it would at least be a fun project to help a few grow up under better conditions (than super-high heat with little rain)


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23452509 - 07/18/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Problem as I can see it is that that literal shit cake is filled with all kinds of contaminant organisms. Once you put that in a tub inside, shit like bacteria and trich won't have mother nature holding them down. We sterilize everything and inoculate with sterility for a reason. If this worked like a charm we would just be throwing some hydrated un-sterilized grains outside and poured a contaminated as fuck LC all over it and once it colonizes, brought it inside.

Best chance that thing has is if you threw it outside again and watered it whenever it's looking dry. Probably won't work even then but definitely better than keeping a ticking time bomb in your grow area.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23452546 - 07/18/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What you said has resonated with me. I will keep them going just as an experiment with no real expectations of success. Also, I see your point about "if this worked like a charm". My intentions were good, just wanted to give the little guys a shot at growing up since the conditions have been brutal. Outdoors is not a reliable option, higher probability they would be eaten/trampled/dry up.

Got some cube spore prints, may give it the old college try after doing more research.

Thanks for the help! :smile:


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23452584 - 07/18/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

outdoors is still a more reliable option than indie with that.. even with the "higher probability" of being eaten/trampled/dry up.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23452851 - 07/18/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You could always just mix it into a bigger bed of dung outside, bury it in soil/straw or something. That's probably what I would do. Dung is so easy to get and this is probably gonna be shitty anyways. Go big or go home.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23453224 - 07/18/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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hi there,

went out and found a couple of loose patties that had cubes growing from visible mycelium on the outside. one of the patties had a cube that looked a little dry and the other had a cube that looked like it was still growing up.

i placed both of these patties in a tub, on a piece of foil, with the mycelium side up, and have been misted the tub a few times over the last ~48hrs. right now the tub is in a warm, dark place, with the lid closed.

the tub and lid were washed with soap and water, then wiped dry, and wiped down with alcohol. the spray bottle im using was cleaned with soap and water, then filled with tap water.

totally newbie here, not sure if this is even worth pursuing, advice??

Also here are some pics of the patties,





I don't get why you tried to sort of sterilize a tub that you were planning to put cow shit from a field in lol

Also it needs to breath and indirect light if fruiting


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23453786 - 07/18/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't get why you tried to sort of sterilize a tub that you were planning to put cow shit from a field in lol

Also it needs to breath and indirect light if fruiting




Practice, I suppose.

Thanks for the tips, I just moved the lid to allow some air in and out and gave it an incandescent light source.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23456025 - 07/19/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

mrmazdarx9 said:
I don't get why you tried to sort of sterilize a tub that you were planning to put cow shit from a field in lol

Also it needs to breath and indirect light if fruiting




Practice, I suppose.

Thanks for the tips, I just moved the lid to allow some air in and out and gave it an incandescent light source.



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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23458623 - 07/20/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome, thanks mrmazdarx9!!

In the AM and PM, I've been taking the lid off and spraying the tub and fanning and misting the patties themselves. There are medium to large water droplets collecting on the walls and on the lid. There was some puddles in the edges of the tub, but those have been wiped up (standing water in the tub is not a good thing?).

So far I can see a few fresh pins and the mycelium looks healthy. I'll see about grabbing some pics today.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23458652 - 07/20/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

maybe suck that corner water up with a paper towel


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Fruit Cakes]
    #23458661 - 07/20/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah man let's have a look how its doing


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23460105 - 07/20/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23472228 - 07/24/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Here's what they look like now,

Had to remove one patty from the tub due to mold. I cleaned the tub, sprayed some bleach/water and then ozium in the room and added some perlite to the bin before placing the other patty back in the tub. The remaining patty looks pretty happy, though.



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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23472234 - 07/24/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shrooms :thumbup: thank you cows


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23472591 - 07/24/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Decided to break off the moldy bits from the patty and give it another chance. Here it is in a small flower pot with some perlite in the bottom. I have some clear plastic covering the pot with room for airflow.



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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23472732 - 07/24/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I really hope you wore gloves.
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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: HamHead]
    #23472737 - 07/24/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I really hope you wore gloves.
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Of course

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23472777 - 07/24/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

if you take a patty from outdoors and put in a tub indoors it will most likely contam.
just leave it outside.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23472783 - 07/24/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If it does that's fine, this is more of an experiment to see what happens than anything else.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23472795 - 07/24/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

dude you have cow shit in a tub in your house, come on, at least TRY the pf-tek?


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23472812 - 07/24/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Jars were inoculated this morning.

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23472927 - 07/24/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:woot:

that's a great reason to get that soon-to-be mold farm turd out of the house :wink::thumbup:


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23472970 - 07/24/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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:woot:

that's a great reason to get that soon-to-be mold farm turd out of the house :wink::thumbup:




The cow patties are indoors but not in the house. The jars are on top of the fridge right now chillin'.

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor] * 1
    #23475916 - 07/25/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Some pics taken a few minutes ago



(formerly) Moldy patty



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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23475948 - 07/25/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've actually been curious about this and the reversal. I wonder if anyone has fertilized their land with cow shit and successfully grown Cubes on their property.
If this somehow works out for you, what is your plan with the patty?


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23475972 - 07/25/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No real plans for it, ill care for it so long as it wants to go for, then once its done all its going to do ill put it out in the woods.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Guywho_is]
    #23475986 - 07/25/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've actually been curious about this and the reversal. I wonder if anyone has fertilized their land with cow shit and successfully grown Cubes on their property.
If this somehow works out for you, what is your plan with the patty?



Yep farmers although they aint trying to grow them
we only get libbys no cubes but thats no bad thing


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23476357 - 07/25/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Before you start breaking off more mold chunks from that cow pattie, you should know that doing that is scattering mold mycelium fragments throughout your house. They are microscopic and can float around for weeks if not months. When one lands on your nice clean cakes that you started, it will start to grow and if it's trich, it will literally eat the mushroom myc and become a big green mess.

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23476382 - 07/25/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You may have better luck with a tissue sample to agar than a spore print. Should check out my signature for the basics. There should be a reference to pasty plates in there.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23476470 - 07/25/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Before you start breaking off more mold chunks from that cow pattie, you should know that doing that is scattering mold mycelium fragments throughout your house. They are microscopic and can float around for weeks if not months. When one lands on your nice clean cakes that you started, it will start to grow and if it's trich, it will literally eat the mushroom myc and become a big green mess.

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:woot:

that's a great reason to get that soon-to-be mold farm turd out of the house :wink::thumbup:




The cow patties are indoors but not in the house. The jars are on top of the fridge right now chillin'.

:hahyeahwoo:




The mold was never in the house, anything that touched the mold got tossed with the mold itself. Clothes got tossed in the washer and took a shower.

I know it's possible this could turn out
:boatfail:

But im hoping it doesnt.

YaMoonSun, I am considering trying agar too. Still need to check the asian stores to see if its available.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23476502 - 07/25/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Didn't see that it wasn't inside. Carry on. Hopefully you see a gram or two for the trouble.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23481401 - 07/27/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quick update, yesterday morning the patty that never had mold, had a small fruit that grew quite a bit the night before. The patty that did have mold, grew a little bit but not as much as the other.

Last night, the fruit on the mold-free patty looked prime for picking. clipped it about a half-inch from the base with scissors and immediately began a spore print with the cap. This morning I tried to see if the spore print looked good, and you can tell there is a nice deep dark print on the foil  :drunkdriver2:

Unfortunately, this morning when I checked the other patty, I noticed it's growth was still "stunted" compared to the other one. I flipped it over, lo and behold the mold came back. I grabbed a plastic bag and very slowly and deliberately placed it in the bag and threw it in the garbage straightaway. I would have thrown it in some dirt, but needed to get to work.

Now it's just the mold-free patty and it seems to be content and still mold-free. There's another mushy on it that may be ready in the next day or so, and two on the bottom that are trying to make their way out.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23481418 - 07/27/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

it will more than likely also mold over pretty soon. kinda doubt you will get anything more out of it, honestly. it would have probably been better off left outside. when things grow outside, they have access to more beneficial bacteria and other kinda stuff that helps them not get so many contams and whatnot. i dont really have any specifics to how it works, but that is how i understood it, and have seen explained before.

that's what we were trying to tell you in the beginning.  but at least you had fun, and got a couple mushrooms from it =p


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23481718 - 07/27/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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you had fun, and got a couple mushrooms from it =p




That was all this was ever about, having fun. :smile:

I agree the mold may spread throughout the room. Though, the moldy patty was in with the mold-free patty for a little bit before being moved. I fanned and fanned with both patties in the same tub, one with mold and the other right next to it.

Do I really believe there is a good chance or zero chance that the mold-free patty is not contaminated? No, obviously. However, it is worth noting that it has been a few days since they were separated and the mold-free patty still looked noticeably healthier than the other when it was disposed of. Which makes sense, as the moldy patty probably had a lot of food that would have been consumed by the shrooms, lost to the mold. I am curious to see whether or not any mold appears on the remaining patty by the end of the week.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23484701 - 07/28/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Probably. Some molds eat mushroom mycelium as their food source.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23488382 - 07/29/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A significant portion of the mycelium and fruitbody, nutrient/moisture support system is located in the dirt under and around the cow patty, once you separate it from it's connection to the ground a large percentage of the fruiting potential is lost.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #23488558 - 07/29/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quick update,
The patty has produced two new fruits, each ~5-6g fresh. The first fruit produced a very deep dark print and the second is printing now. There is a third pin that looks like it has potential to become another fruit. Pics will be added to this thread this evening, possibly earlier, time permitting.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23488577 - 07/29/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

just remember to use agar with those prints this time :wink:


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23488590 - 07/29/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yup yup!!


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor] * 1
    #23502823 - 08/02/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here are the rest of the pics (the patty in the tub had to be removed once mold showed up on the bottom)

If nothing more, two good spore prints came of this little experiment  :offthehook:



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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23502855 - 08/02/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck yeah, got your sterilized foil inside your sterilized container ready to go?


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    #23502937 - 08/02/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No, the spore prints from those fruit have already been collected. Next time sterilized materials will be used, if nothing more than to reduce the contaminates present during collection. Though, with these agar plates going, hopefully cleaning and isolation will result in a nice mono culture.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23503321 - 08/02/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a little late to the party. Nothing new to me. Typically it would be because I was doing something nasty with my cock that's for you shhh guys, but I have no excuse. But maybe i might have a j in my shirt pocket.
Anyways, op, good to see this thread. These guys are just jealous cause they don't live where we do.
I gathered hpoo one time when it was a little moist from rain, and violà, cubes popped up in my shredded tub of .

Pasty, that poo is adding no more mold spores than what's already moving around in his house. Ha ha. You know that. Shroomery people are just nasty.

So filthyknees and I put some cow poo in a zip lock the other day. The entire chunk of cpoo is covered in the most beautiful Rhizomorphic growth I've ever seen.

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: azur]
    #23503329 - 08/02/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Pasty, that poo is adding no more mold spores than what's already moving around in his house. Ha ha. You know that. Shroomery people are just nasty.




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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23503346 - 08/02/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:haha:
You and I both know what we're both saying
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    #23503355 - 08/02/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: HamHead]
    #23503392 - 08/02/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I really hope you wore gloves.
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Why?  If the cpoo was growing cubes, it was already broken down enough to be a few steps away from being soil. Gloves are for sterile work and for pussies. Not ordinary chores.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: azur]
    #23503403 - 08/02/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm a little late to the party. Nothing new to me. Typically it would be because I was doing something nasty with my cock that's for you shhh guys, but I have no excuse. But maybe i might have a j in my shirt pocket.
Anyways, op, good to see this thread. These guys are just jealous cause they don't live where we do.




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    #23503409 - 08/02/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: azur]
    #23504410 - 08/03/16 04:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I might as well insert my sustainable harvesting tek here aagain because the more people who know it the better. So In Iquitos Peru there is this one highway that goes to another town that has cow fields. When I first got there it produced amazingly, Cubes, Pancyans, and Pantrops. Then after years of overharvesting it produced virtually nothing. There was one cow field next to the ayahuasca retreat I worked at and it was kinda popular and totally wiped out . So I started doing this, I took the old mushrooms I was nt going to use and put them in a ottle of water and shook it up, I then went looking for cow crap that is just losing it's greenish,yellowish color and turning brown, poke a hole with a stick sprinkle in a few drops and close the hole with yor foot, I found more mushrooms this way too. I also used the blades of grass that were covered in spores and put spores in the cows watering trough within six months production was back to normal. So take some of these spore prints with you next time you go harvesting...


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #23509286 - 08/04/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the tips lenny, during the last harvest two 10cc spore syringes were given back to the field. A few CC's of spore solution were squirted in areas most favorable for mushies; all areas were already producing fruits, included shade, excessive moisture and plenty of decaying organic material. It remains to be seen whether this had any effect, this thread will be updated once the "fertilized" areas have been checked again. :smile:


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23511593 - 08/05/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It would be even more likely to see something if you dropped the spores in a cow water trough. The spores are said to germinate inside the cow's stomach. 

You could get faster results if you dropped some spores in an LC or a grain jar and once colonized, threw that outside.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23511706 - 08/05/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

In a clean, maintained water source, it may be beneficial to add spores. Unfortunately, these water sources are laden with algae growth and are not cleaned on a regular basis. Spores could be added, but would inevitably end up getting caught in the algae and baked in the sun. Once a LC or LI is going, it will be brought out and given back to the field as you suggested. Thanks for the tips!!

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23519404 - 08/07/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Then maybe yo can be a bit of a jerk and tip the trough over spilling it's contents all over the place then adding spores ensuring that they have to refill it with fresh clean water? Or intentionally take spore prints on blades of grass which you then dry cut up and throw them in the trough insuring that some of the spores will stick to the grass, also even if spores get caught in the algae, wouldn't the cows digestion system digest the algae and liberate the spores?


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #23519413 - 08/07/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

All that needs to happen is the cows need to somehow eat the spores. Mixing them in the water supply is an easy way to achieve this. But it's not the only way of course.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23519425 - 08/07/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How do we know this?
Have any non shroomery links on the natural life cycle?


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: azur]
    #23519509 - 08/07/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah yeah yeah you had cubes pop up in hpoo once. But the life cycle of coprophilpus fungi is pretty well understood and is consistent across many species not just cubes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophilous_fungi


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    #23520000 - 08/07/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:
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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: azur]
    #23520042 - 08/07/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There is actually all kinds of good info. I remember reading a paper somewhere once where they were trying to determine if succession was possible with some species so they were trying to sterilize the plant matter as substrate and introduce certain spores to it.

IIRC the result was inconclusive but I remember being compelled that the sample was just small and that it was possible. They were just using plant matter (excluding grain) so nutes was going to be an issue from the start. Of course successive species are often ones that colonize quick and don't often need a large colony to sporulate. Imperfect fungi fit that bill pretty good.

I get the impression most higher fungi (especially ones that create a large sporopcarp) need to get a jump on things. They require the most available substrate to produce the needed hyphae. Not to say it can't happen that way, nature is a complex system.


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23520048 - 08/07/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well I'm off to buy some land in fl and some cows. Later mofos


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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: azur]
    #23521274 - 08/08/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Kept this going.. This past weekend the last patty was taken outdoors under a mature, shady tree. A hole about one foot by one foot and about 6" deep was dug, the patty was mixed in with the dirt taken from the hole, then the dirt+patty was used to fill the hole back in. The area had a good layer of dead leaves and the spot will be watered at least twice daily.

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Re: Fruiting cow patty viable for more fruit? [Re: azur]
    #23521279 - 08/08/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23521280 - 08/08/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23521302 - 08/08/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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