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DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come
    #23451380 - 07/17/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Federal government now says no deadline for announcement

The Drug Enforcement Administration flaked on its self-imposed deadline to announce whether to reschedule marijuana, and now it’s not clear when a decision might come.

In April, the DEA told lawmakers in a letter that it was reviewing information on rescheduling and “hopes to release its determination in the first half of 2016.” That hope ended when June did, and a DEA spokesman in Washington, D.C., told The Denver Post late last week that there is no update on the administration’s contemplations of rescheduling.

Earlier this month, DEA spokesman Russell Baer told the tech news website aNewDomain, “We aren’t holding ourselves to any artificial time frame.” Even after the DEA announces a decision on rescheduling, that decision could still be subject to further review and litigation.

All of this counters a purported scoop touted by the Santa Monica Observer as “groundbreaking,” in which it quoted an unnamed, chardonnay-sipping “DEA lawyer” saying that the administration would move cannabis to Schedule II in August.

Marijuana is currently listed under Schedule I, which means the federal government considers it to have no accepted medicinal value and a high potential for abuse. As part of the most recent petition to reschedule cannabis, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has reconsidered marijuana’s medicinal value and abuse potential. That department has sent a recommendation to the DEA, which has not disclosed what the recommendation says.

There’s a recent history of the federal government taking longer than promised on marijuana issues. After voters in Colorado and Washington legalized cannabis possession and use in 2012, then-Attorney General Eric Holder said the federal government would announced its response, “relatively soon.” The response didn’t come for another eight months.

Whatever the time frame, some federal lawmakers appear to be getting restless.

On June 30 — the last day the DEA had to hold to its previously hoped-for deadline — U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York sent the DEA a letter asking, “that you take immediate action to remove ‘cannabis’ and ‘tetrahydrocannabinols’ from Schedule I.” The letter was co-signed by U.S. Rep. Jared Polis, a Democrat from Boulder.

Among other details, the letter mentions a proposed DEA rule in 2010 that would have placed drugs that mimic the FDA-approved drug dronabinol — a synthetic form of THC marketed as Marinol — into Schedule III. According to the proposed rule, that rescheduling would “include formulations having naturally-derived dronabinol” from cannabis plants.

According to the letter, drug companies that produced competing products objected and the proposed rule was never implemented.

“By proposing that natural generic equivalents be rescheduled to Schedule III, the DEA acknowledged that this substance has a medical use, regardless of whether it is synthetically made or natural,” the letter states.

Rescheduling purified components of the cannabis plant, though, is still a long way from rescheduling marijuana as a whole. And only time — an indeterminate amount of time — will tell whether that happens.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: trampis]
    #23451700 - 07/18/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see it happening until more states put pressure on the DEA that means more states legalizing and allowing for the recreational sale/use of marijuana. Even then it could come down to a Supreme Court vote. If the States win then it will simply be up to the State to determine whether they want legal marijuana or not and if most of them do then the federal government would reschedule it. This of course would cause a whole bunch of issues for states that already have regulation in place.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: tdubz]
    #23451855 - 07/18/16 04:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Agreed. These dudes have been breaking promises for too long, dont hold your breath for their reply.

Its already at the tipping point, but yes, its a matter of other states legalizing OR having very open MMJ programs (like california, which id say to any resident is basically legal. Only that you need a cali state ID), and eventually this will "single out" the DEA, who will have even less reason, resources, etc.

Isnt it in everyones best interest that they just be ordered to focus on real drugs? Its not even like the prison industry is making much money off of weed busts these days (pretty sure most states' weed arrests are down?). Seems like a case of just being sore losers to...society.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: Fractal420]
    #23451950 - 07/18/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

"So you want to reschedule the one drug that is the most widespread globally and brings in the majority of our money, and you made the deadline the end of June? How did I miss that meeting?"

months later......


"We aren’t holding ourselves to any artificial time frame."

You're right bro, because we all live forever :mindblown:


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: tealeaf]
    #23451954 - 07/18/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shhh "they" don't want you to know that.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: tdubz]
    #23452515 - 07/18/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It won't happen, because by necessity they would need to re-try thousands? Millions maybe? of people who are incarcerated in order to not look bad politically. Even so re-scheduling to class 2 would effectively give the government more legal teeth through other outlets like the FDA effectively ending the open markets that exist in legal states. Rather than cops and guns, courts and fines would be used on everyone.... except a few government sponsored corporations.

IMHO this is all irrelevant posturing because in a few weeks to a few months from now, world war 3 will start and escalate. The dream will be over, and the nightmare will begin. I will say they did a great job of crying wolf to numb everyone so when the real deal starts hardly anybody will notice, let alone prepare for it.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: Eywa_devotee] * 1
    #23453146 - 07/18/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is what happens when you continue to paint you way into a corner with fresh coats of paint.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: tealeaf]
    #23453369 - 07/18/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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tealeaf said:
"We aren’t holding ourselves to any artificial time frame."





Funny how government agencies are the only ones who can pull that shit. Any business or employee that pulls shit like that immediately is fired or loses business and/or reputation.

It's also absurd how their internal standards and goals are more important than lying to the public, and then we are supposed to turn around and respect them. When someone pulls that shit on me in real life, when they say they're going to do something by x date, and they don't, they are immediately cut out of my life if its anything of reasonable import. As far as I'm concerned everyone at the DEA is a fucking rotten husk of a human being that solely survives by leaching off the suffering of other people.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23453616 - 07/18/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eywa_devotee said:
It won't happen, because by necessity they would need to re-try thousands? Millions maybe? of people who are incarcerated in order to not look bad politically.




If needed, certain sentences could be pardoned in a blanket.
Hardly a new idea.

I think its just as likely they'll let any such charges stick when legalization finally happens.


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Re: DEA flakes on self-imposed marijuana rescheduling deadline, unclear when answer will come [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23455587 - 07/19/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I will be willing to reconsider my responsible self ownership, at a date of my own choosing. I may or may not follow through, as that is my prerogative.


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