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Jkgtturbo
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ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland
#23449404 - 07/17/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi, I picked these today in Dublin, Need some identifying the type thanks. Habitat: Grows:Dublin Ireland,pasture,100ft alt, grows on grass, reindeer dung.
Gills: Color dark brown to blackish, attached/ yes, gills/pores, etc.
Stem: Length 4cm average, diameter, color some cream some brownish, texture is smooth, hollow/solid ?, thin stems.
Other information: Scent of the mushroom is like the type you get in the grocery store, attached a few pictures and Thanks in advance.


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LeningradCowboy
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23449426 - 07/17/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes you have picked some liberty caps, but there is all so other mushrooms in pictures.
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Jkgtturbo
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Hey thanks for the quick reply cowboy, any idea how I can determine which is which thanks.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23449461 - 07/17/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They're not in the best condition, but I don't see a single mushroom there that I'd say is one.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23449469 - 07/17/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The 2 slightly down from the centre of the first picture, which are much paler i colour than any of the others are not liberty caps one bit, the others dont look likely
Edited by Spiggle (07/17/16 10:33 AM)
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Jkgtturbo
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: elprawn]
#23449488 - 07/17/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously not 1, any idea where I'm going wrong? Thanks
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LeningradCowboy
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Spiggle]
#23449492 - 07/17/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Semilantecea has a nipple....all so the color of stem is good indicator in this one.
Do not throw those away....there are couple of others but most of those are liberty cabs.
lucky you! there is heavy trip on your hands.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Spiggle]
#23449499 - 07/17/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can you see any in the group so I know what to go for next time? Thanks
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23449502 - 07/17/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jkgtturbo said: Seriously not 1, any idea where I'm going wrong? Thanks
The habitat sounds about right, though you might be a bit early in the year for them. Mind you, they have been found at this time of year before.
I would try to get pictures of them in better condition from now on.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: elprawn]
#23449517 - 07/17/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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To me there are quite a few panaeolus species, not many liberties, first the stem of liberty cap will not feel super floppy like those top picture: bottom middle to bottom right, and same for example with the second pic down shroom in the top right side, that is panaeolus you can see the stem texture and apperance.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Spiggle]
#23449526 - 07/17/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The more i look the less convinced I am, the best way to learn what is what is just practice, you'll familiarise yourself over time
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LeningradCowboy
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: elprawn]
#23449531 - 07/17/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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3 row (middle) from right 5 first are liberty cabs.... # 7 on same row is not a liberty cab....down from there in lowest row are some fakes as well.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: elprawn]
#23449538 - 07/17/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cool, the grass was recently cut so possibly damaged then, time of year is early alright it's been very wet and damp.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23449557 - 07/17/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good too see determination! I cant wait to get back bending in the fields
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LeningradCowboy
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23449562 - 07/17/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is early, but not uncommon.
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Spiggle]
#23449602 - 07/17/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Totally determined I was lol got sunburned too haha
So am I dumping this lot or what should I do with them?
I'll prob leave it for another month or so before I go back picking again see if I've better luck. Thanks for all the help btw
Edited by Jkgtturbo (07/17/16 11:23 AM)
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23449681 - 07/17/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice, I definitely see some libs there, but like others have said not all of them are.
last year was my first season and i found this book to be an invaluable resource:
http://www.lycaeum.org/w/images/5/58/Magic_Nordic_Liberty_Cap_Photographer's_field_guide.pdf (not sure why the link isnt working fully but just copy and paste )
btw, think you might have the first Irish libs of the year on shroomery
Edited by mycameteur (07/17/16 11:59 AM)
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: mycameteur]
#23449850 - 07/17/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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mycameteur said: Nice, I definitely see some libs there, but like others have said not all of them are.
last year was my first season and i found this book to be an invaluable resource:
http://www.lycaeum.org/w/images/5/58/Magic_Nordic_Liberty_Cap_Photographer's_field_guide.pdf (not sure why the link isnt working fully but just copy and paste )
btw, think you might have the first Irish libs of the year on shroomery 
Cheers I'll definitely give that a read Thanks
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Jkgtturbo]
#23450036 - 07/17/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd separate based on bluing and toss the rest. I only see a few. Could even error on side of caution and toss all. Not a big loss. Checking in the field for a gelatinous pellicle is a good way for someone new to not to end up with a mixed sac like that. A potentially dangerous situation. When going on pellicle to ID be aware Stropharia semiglobata has a similar slime, shares habitat. Quite different Gill structure (wide spaced), non stirate cap and a slime cased stem differentiate.
Edited by Saunterer (07/17/16 02:19 PM)
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Re: ID request, liberty caps Dublin Ireland [Re: Saunterer]
#23450060 - 07/17/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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