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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain]
    #23449277 - 07/17/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Another shooting directed at officers juat taken place





3 dead, 7 wounded

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain]
    #23449284 - 07/17/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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BTW, I have been complaining about the unjust drug laws for over 30 years, maybe before you were even born.  The cops on the street aren't lawmakers, they are nothing more than pawns.  It's the US public that is at fault, not the cops.




Law enforcement are the number one lobby group against reforming drug law. They are not pawns, they are actively fighting for the status quo,


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23449286 - 07/17/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I know im gonna be watching this shit all day


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods]
    #23449357 - 07/17/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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BTW, I have been complaining about the unjust drug laws for over 30 years, maybe before you were even born.  The cops on the street aren't lawmakers, they are nothing more than pawns.  It's the US public that is at fault, not the cops.




Law enforcement are the number one lobby group against reforming drug law. They are not pawns, they are actively fighting for the status quo,





lobbying isnt making the laws and at any point in time you can actively lobby
congress yourself, you can also run for political office and the very least
you can do is to vote the anti drug electorate out of office

also, dont you support the unions? such as the police union that is the actual
anti-drug lobby that you're now saying is the problem? koods, are you actually
anti drug?

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23449365 - 07/17/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i bet a literal white lives matter parade would be shutdown and shown on CNN as a right wing hate group instantly.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: keyser_soze]
    #23449368 - 07/17/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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i bet a literal white lives matter parade would be shutdown and shown on CNN as a right wing hate group instantly.



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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23450031 - 07/17/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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BTW, I have been complaining about the unjust drug laws for over 30 years, maybe before you were even born.  The cops on the street aren't lawmakers, they are nothing more than pawns.  It's the US public that is at fault, not the cops.




Law enforcement are the number one lobby group against reforming drug law. They are not pawns, they are actively fighting for the status quo,




Yup, they are just as much a part of the problem as anybody else up the line. Sorry.

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Another shooting directed at officers juat taken place





3 dead, 7 wounded




Tragic. We all know guns aren't the problem, though. Maybe if they didn't want to get shot they shouldn't have been cops?
(I'm being sarcastic, BTW, and I am not anti gun at all. Although I do think maybe we should not let suspected terrorists on the no fly list buy them. That kinda seems like a good idea..)

Seriously, though, what do you guys think is the solution to the violence against police? Do you guys think they just need to come down extra hard on BLM or something? Because I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work....

Or do you guys not even care about solutions and you just like complaining about how unfair it is that you can't have your white lives matter protest?

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #23450116 - 07/17/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Although I do think maybe we should not let suspected terrorists on the no fly list buy them. That kinda seems like a good idea..)





should we let deny people that drink a beer on occasion a driver's license?


I could agree with the terrorist watch list if it didnt completely eliminate due
process so if they want to come up with a list of convicted terrorists that
shouldnt be allowed to buy a gun then I'm all for it


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Seriously, though, what do you guys think is the solution to the violence against police? Do you guys think they just need to come down extra hard on BLM or something? Because I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work....





I think there should be a law passed that says if you deliberately block
a roadway as a form of protest then you're responsible for you own injuries
and the damage to the vehicles that ran you over for your foolishness. that
would certainly eliminate some of the BLM issues

cops know about the dangers of the job, they dont deserve any special treatment

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Or do you guys not even care about solutions and you just like complaining about how unfair it is that you can't have your white lives matter protest?






what solutions did you offer?

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23450143 - 07/17/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I actually pretty much agree with all that.

And I'm also not sure about denying people the right to own guns if they are on the terrorist watch list.

Of course it seems like a good idea in theory, but oftentimes those types of laws end up getting used in the wrong way it seems.

I really have no idea what the solution is, besides decriminalization of all drugs.

Obviously that wouldn't fix all the problems, but I know that would be the solution to my own personal issues with the police. I know I don't speak for everybody on that, though.

It sure seems like it would at least help deescalate a lot of this tension between cops and citizens, though.

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #23450150 - 07/17/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The better solution, instead of banning people on the no fly list from getting them, would be actually finding terrorists and stopping them BEFORE they strike, the Orlando shooter was identified before he went shooting and the FBI was remiss to do anything.

Surely a guy who pledged his support to Isis and threatens to kill his coworkers family shouldn't just be let go to go about his business.

If we ban gun buying from people on the no fly list, they will use trucks, or pressure cookers, or anything else they can get their hands on to kill people.

Personally, I'd rather stop them before they strike than be reassured that "they won't use a gun" to commit mass murder


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23450164 - 07/17/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The better solution, instead of banning people on the no fly list from getting them, would be actually finding terrorists and stopping them BEFORE they strike, the Orlando shooter was identified before he went shooting and the FBI was remiss to do anything.

Surely a guy who pledged his support to Isis and threatens to kill his coworkers family shouldn't just be let go to go about his business.

If we ban gun buying from people on the no fly list, they will use trucks, or pressure cookers, or anything else they can get their hands on to kill people.

Personally, I'd rather stop them before they strike than be reassured that "they won't use a gun" to commit mass murder




I couldn't agree more. It is unbelievable to me that a guy that went to the shooters mosque FUCKING TOLD THE FBI that he was sketch and they didn't do anything.

Why the hell are we giving up all our freedoms to help them find fucking terrorists if they aren't going to do shit when they find them?

edit: I know they can't just arrest people with no real evidence. But can't they at least keep a closer eye on him or something? Maybe at least somehow be notified if he recently bought some guns or something?

I can't help but wonder if the cops would be doing a better job of stopping terrorists if they weren't trying to stop drug use...

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #23450220 - 07/17/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/17/politics/cleveland-police-baton-rouge-security-open-carry/

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"We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something -- I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN.




Wow. Can you guys believe this shit?

Maybe if you don't want to be a cop in a state where people have the right to carry guns, you should quit your job.

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #23450237 - 07/17/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I actually pretty much agree with all that.

And I'm also not sure about denying people the right to own guns if they are on the terrorist watch list.

Of course it seems like a good idea in theory, but oftentimes those types of laws end up getting used in the wrong way it seems.





apparently it takes nothing to get put on a terrorist watch list these days,
simply having a different political view, blogging about conservative politics, 
and being a firearm owner can all get you placed on a watch list if someone
decides to claim you're a danger and you may have no idea that you're on a list
because no one is required to ell you, getting your name removed is apparently
proving to be a special challenge. these things completely eliminate due process
and screw millions, you can see a small part of it on how people are placed on
no fly lists

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I really have no idea what the solution is, besides decriminalization of all drugs.




I believe in legalization, decriminalization still allows for monetary
sanctions and confiscation and in most cases allow for criminal penalties
for repeat offenders. it wont fix the BLM problems because if you look,
most of these people were doing shit unrelated to drugs and the legal
status of drugs had nothing to do with their reactions to being confronted
by the cops and based on the statistics, white people are even dumber about
this shit than blacks


here's a solution. stop policing the predominately black areas, stop
investigating black on black crime, stop arresting blacks for crimes
against other blacks and tell them "this is what you wanted, you
handle it because it's a black thang"

https://www.itsablackthang.com/

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #23450241 - 07/17/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ramsey Orta, Who Filmed Eric Garner's Death, to Serve 4 Years in Jail

Violence is never the answer but these cowards are begging for it.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23450246 - 07/17/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ramsey Orta, Who Filmed Eric Garner's Death, to Serve 4 Years in Jail

Violence is never the answer but they are begging for it.




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On Wednesday, Orta took a plea deal on weapons and drug charges



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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23450266 - 07/17/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Obviously they couldn't have done it on "looking at officers on duty" charges, that's bullshit.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23450480 - 07/17/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Obviously they couldn't have done it on "looking at officers on duty" charges, that's bullshit.




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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23450519 - 07/17/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

a man pleads guilty to weapons charges and you're babbling about cops on duty?

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23450518 - 07/17/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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There's a Shroomery member here who I won't name, who is facing court charges because a cop framed him. Apparently this cop had seen him hanging around the Philadelphia drug corners picking up drugs every now and then, and popped him to try to search him shortly after he thought he had picked up.

When the cop found nothing, the cop actually sprinkled crack on him to frame him. And now he is being charged with some BS crime for picking up crack.

I was like, "What? Sprinkled crack?" Yo that's like a bad comedy skit. Dave Chapelle and other comedians talk about that shit all the time, WTF :crankey:





I dont believe it




Cops have been caught framing people specifically with crack cocaine

He's apparently trying to fight the charges, via evidence like lack of his fingerprints on the baggie of crack. If he had picked it up, there should be his fingerprints all over the bag, presumably. But it's really an uphill battle and dependent on luck whether you are found guilty or not guilty.




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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23450523 - 07/17/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ramsey Orta, Who Filmed Eric Garner's Death, to Serve 4 Years in Jail

Violence is never the answer but they are begging for it.




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On Wednesday, Orta took a plea deal on weapons and drug charges







That's not the story. The story, is that he has been harassed non-stop ever since he has filmed that incident. The cops knew who he was, and targeted him, until they caught him with something. That, or they possibly planted evidence on him to incarcerate him.

If you read into the story more, you'll find that Orta refused to eat while in Rikers' Jail, because he claimed that they were trying to poison his food in prison. He was also charged with domestic assault against his wife, a charge that his own wife says is false and was fabricated by the police to take him to jail.

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