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McChiru
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Not sure anymore...
#23449016 - 07/17/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
so i recently started to discover some green spots on the substrate and i was pretty positiv that the substrate was contaminated. After a while the mushrooms started to turn green under the caps, the green spots started to spread and i was about to toss it. But i noticed how fast the mushroom were growing and some of the green spots even disappeared. So im still positiv that they are contaminated, but not 100%. I would like to hear your opinion on them.
Top right corner you can see the green stuff. Thats basically all over the cake:

Again at the corner of the cake. And the mushrooms:

The green line at the edge of the caps:

Unhealthy looking mushrooms and green line under the caps + green mycelium

Open cap and green mycelium at the lower right corner

Substrate, you can't really see the green mold(?) but it's way more than you can see in the picture :/

Green rings around the caps and deformed mushrooms:

fking fly on the mushroom. I think thats where the contam comes from. I've seen a few flying around in my FC a few days ago. I completely cleaned the FC, but i think they laid eggs or something in the substrate or something:



tried to get as many pictures as possible to give you a good view.
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Re: Not sure anymore... [Re: McChiru]
#23449050 - 07/17/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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In every pic you have bruising man. Blue mycelium is bruising. Molds are so distinct, they're literally fuzzy/sandy/granular.
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Kush_Zombie
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I don't see shit
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i was thinking bruising too... but then what is that line around the bottom of the cap in the fourth picture, second shroom from the bottom? kind of an odd way to bruise
Edit: but if it was green mold, you would be sure of it
Edited by SpinScratch (07/17/16 08:22 AM)
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McChiru
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You are sure that this is bruising? I had to lift the cake once but i did not touched it everywhere. Actually only 4 spots. Hmm so you wouldn't thorw it away? Even eat them? And whats about these green lines? Oh and also i'm sorry for posting in the wrong forum.
EDIT: Hm okay so im just concerned about the green rings. Thanks guys!
Edited by McChiru (07/17/16 08:24 AM)
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Re: Not sure anymore... [Re: McChiru]
#23449119 - 07/17/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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McChiru said: Hmm so you wouldn't thorw it away?
no.
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McChiru said: eat them?!
yes.
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mupetmower
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look like it is just bruising, and splitting caps from possibly being too dry.
lots of those srhooms with open caps are ready for harvest.
but it is kinda weird because usualy when you see stems have those brown stripes like that, it seems it is usually from being too wet, but then you have splitting caps which i thought was usualy from being to dry haha. doesnt look like vert, which could split caps. im still noob, so idk. but the "green" appears to just be bruising.
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Re: Not sure anymore... [Re: McChiru]
#23449149 - 07/17/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay great Thanks! And the green rings? Any idea?
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mupetmower said: look like it is just bruising
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Mad Season said: In every pic you have bruising man. Blue mycelium is bruising. Molds are so distinct, they're literally fuzzy/sandy/granular.
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As many said, they look dry. I would assume it has something to do with the veil breaking and causing it to bruise slightly due to dehydration somehow which gave it a green-ish blue ring.
Just a guess.
But even if it was mold, it's harvest time for some of those and almost harvest time for the others. With it being green, it would more than likely be trich IF it was a mold, which to my understanding is edible and pretty much everywhere around you anyways so wouldn't effect your trip anyways (to my understanding).
But it's not mold so..
enjoy.
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if you are really that worried, make a tea with them..? dont some people do that with suspect fruits? maybe i made that up in my head =p
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mupetmower said: if you are really that worried, make a tea with them..? dont some people do that with suspect fruits? maybe i made that up in my head =p
Maybe the hot water kills off anything suspicious? I've never really made the tea before so I'm not sure how hot the water is when it touches the mushrooms.
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yeah idk.. i mean people make tea all the time, obviously. but i feel think i have seen a few different people say that it does sorta kill off(or maybe just somehow filters out) suspect things, like maybe some types of mold/bacteria. but again, im not 100% sure about it.
oh, but im pretty sure they just bring the water to a boil, then pour it over the ground/chopped/diced fresh mushrooms, then use a coffee filter(or similar) to strain the chunks out.
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Yeah, that probably definitely kills off everything then.
I had a bunch of little pins from previous grows laying around at the bottom of my dehydrator and in this little container I have (along with a couple of bigger mushrooms but not many) and everything weighed out to a little over 30g.
I grinded up the 30g really fine, melted some chocolate, threw them into the chocolate and then poured it into some molds to make shroom candies.
Those things turned out waaaaay more potent than I was expecting. My last "microdose" was way more than I wanted for that day needless to say, I haven't eaten anymore of my chocolates just yet. I needed a break.
It's an awesome way to use those really tiny mushrooms but those little tiny mushrooms have a lot of kick in them lol
edit: sorry, I know that's a little off-topic but the different ways of consuming mushrooms brought this to mind.
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Cubes have a yellow hue. Add blue (oxidizing actives) and you get green.
As said, overly dry fruits or getting too zealous with a spray bottle can bruise em
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Re: Not sure anymore... [Re: Snazz]
#23449974 - 07/17/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was lack of water. My bad. Okay thanks guys. And thanks for the tip with the tea. And yeah they were more than ready to harvest, but i didn't want to harvest contaminated mushrooms and spread the mold around. Thanks guys
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Re: Not sure anymore... [Re: McChiru]
#23450055 - 07/17/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Not sure anymore... [Re: Snazz]
#23452184 - 07/18/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's fine, trich has two flavors, a very bright emerald green variety, and grey yellowish green variety. Both have a granulated appearance with liquified mushroom mycelium around them. If actually on the mushrooms it dissolves them to liquid mush. An early warning of a trich infection is the mushrooms will grow, but will stop making spores when fully opened in most varieties. What you have there is just bruising. When you get trich you'll know. It usually attacks after the third flush. If you grow a garden, a trich infested substrate makes a really good soil additive where you want to grow tomatoes and peppers. Makes them grow freakishly well.
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Eywa_devotee said: It's fine, trich has two flavors, a very bright emerald green variety, and grey yellowish green variety. Both have a granulated appearance with liquified mushroom mycelium around them. If actually on the mushrooms it dissolves them to liquid mush. An early warning of a trich infection is the mushrooms will grow, but will stop making spores when fully opened in most varieties. What you have there is just bruising. When you get trich you'll know. It usually attacks after the third flush. If you grow a garden, a trich infested substrate makes a really good soil additive where you want to grow tomatoes and peppers. Makes them grow freakishly well.
So I should be throwing my trich jars onto my plants Do you think this would benefit cannabis plants as well?
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I have a few friends whom use coir bricks with trich for their plants with other additives and stuff i have no clue about. Just found it funny, seeing him using this type of coir with natural trich in it
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