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Mike O. Phile
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Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ?
#23447254 - 07/16/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kia ora shroomers, I found these a few metres away from some subs, growing in a pine litter, woodchips and grass mix. I couldn't get habitat shots as the light was dying but it was pretty typical sub territory. doing a spore print now.
the stems are grayish, thin, tough, and bluing at the base. the caps range from quite yellow to gray, with prominent bluing on a couple of caps, to bluing only on the rim of another couple. there is a definite nipple on the caps. gills are light gray.
what have I got here? worth going back for another look today? 



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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23447303 - 07/16/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm not seen a lot of NZ species, perhaps something close to P. makarorae wait for a few more opinions
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Blazeyy]
#23447328 - 07/16/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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mycena are known to blue, but they are not active I hear... Wait for TI to do his thing tho
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Mike O. Phile
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Blazer420]
#23447334 - 07/16/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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cheers for the responses, I've only picked subs before so feeling quite excited at the possibility of something else to hunt too. from what I know of p. makarorae (from reading on here) I think these might be too fragile. But then again I thought libs grow in grass and these weren't, so I'm confused!
if they're mycena i'll cry
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23447345 - 07/16/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I don't think it's Psilocybe given the texture of the stipe and the colour of the gills. But it's still really interesting, and still possibly active (not every psilocybin-containing mushroom is in the Psilocybe genus.) You might have something very rare and cool
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Matai] 1
#23447348 - 07/16/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry to break the news but those are Mycena
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Blazeyy
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Matai]
#23447353 - 07/16/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Blazer420 said: mycena are known to blue, but they are not active I hear... Wait for TI to do his thing tho 
They do look exactly like mycena gills to me as well but i can't tell if it's just flash or not, some macros would be nice close ups of the gills n stem etc, it's gotta be either mycena or psilocybe but just got zero field experience in NZ so really hard for me to say, the stipe is pulling me away from mycena but the gills pulling me towards mycena, will be interested to know what it turns out to be anyway.
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doctorghosty said: Sorry to break the news but those are Mycena
There we go
Edited by Blazeyy (07/16/16 05:13 PM)
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Mike O. Phile
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: doctorghosty]
#23447367 - 07/16/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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guess I'll stick with the subs then ghosty
yeah Blazey the cap on one seemed to scream psilocybe, but I am very inexperienced. Only had the camera phone and unfortunately they're now drying out while I attempt to get spore prints (they were already pretty dried out by the time I got them home).
and cheers Matai, I haven't found a bluing mycena before. It would probably be a really stupid idea to eat them anyway, right? that spot was good luck anyway though, I found my biggest sub yet there.
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23447387 - 07/16/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mike O. Phile said:
It would probably be a really stupid idea to eat them anyway, right?
tbh everything for me seems to have an issue cept psilocybe, active conocybes made me trip n feel sick at the same time, pan. species are decent but i always get a headache afterwards with the weaker ones, especially oliv's, gymnopilus with what little i was sent was very nauseating and really weak even at quite a high dose, never tried any others but you can see where it's going lol the only perfect one for me has been really strong pan complex which blue heavily (copelandia species) or psilocybe species.
Rest make me ill or feel odd in some way which isn't ideal when you're experiencing hallucinations, anyway least we got it cleared up, i'd stick to the subs they're one of the strongest especially fresh, there's a few more species of psilocybe where you live, the one i mentioned is one of them which is supposed to be nice and grows in the same area as subs but yeah i'd stick to them subs as they are way up there in potency especially when fresh
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Blazeyy] 1
#23447430 - 07/16/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah I want to enjoy whatever trip I have! and I like subs. Ate some fresh last night and watched Spirited Away once the guests had gone home
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Mike O. Phile
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23447728 - 07/16/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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could these be mycena amicta? http://mushroomobserver.org/21846?q=dOB
as they dry, the blue intensifies, looking much like the psilocybin bluing on sub(aureginosa)s. unfortunately they had dried a bit too much before I got them home and obtaining a print is proving difficult.
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23447803 - 07/16/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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would need microscopy n dna doing mate to pin it down
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23448004 - 07/16/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mike O. Phile said: could these be mycena amicta? http://mushroomobserver.org/21846?q=dOB
as they dry, the blue intensifies, looking much like the psilocybin bluing on sub(aureginosa)s. unfortunately they had dried a bit too much before I got them home and obtaining a print is proving difficult.
Yes, it's either that species or a very closely related one, the spore print is white.
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Mike O. Phile
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: inski]
#23450303 - 07/17/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanks Inksi these are not active, is that correct?
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23450725 - 07/17/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting.
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Blazer420
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23450929 - 07/17/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mike O. Phile said: thanks Inksi these are not active, is that correct?
I dont think any mycena species are active bro.. If there are some, then lol.
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Re: Possible liberty cap type bluing psilocybe, Christchurch NZ? [Re: Mike O. Phile]
#23451532 - 07/17/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mike O. Phile said: thanks Inksi these are not active, is that correct?
Yes, these are not active.
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