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CactiSam
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Angel Destroyer
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Re: Kratom Extract? [Re: CactiSam]
#23446765 - 07/16/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You could try a polar non-polar extraction if you have some chemical knowledge
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musiclover420
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Maybe try getting some 99% iso or something similiar and freezing it for a few days then try soaking your extract in it while still cold.
Then filter out the solids and evaporate, not sure how efficient that would be but in theory it could help clean out a lot of plant matter/ chlorophyll.
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CactiSam
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Well my concern is not soo much about plant material, but just wandering what steps I should take to clean this up the rest of the way.
Since it has been sitting up for a year, I was a little concerned about mold or other things that might have contaminated the extract (although this is a long shot I truelly believe...just being a little paranoid)
I think I am just going to add some more everclear, heat up until a constancy that is workable, then filter and reduce again.
I am not really interested in A/B or ISO, I guess I just wanted some thoughts on if it is still OK (I am fairly sure it is) And how you would go about making sure all the un-wanted liquid is "purged"
Thanks again!
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Angel Destroyer
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I would much rather see it in crystal form
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CactiSam
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The more I think of it, I might just try an A/B if I can get everything locally.
I have never did it, but am fairly certain I can do it safely.
And this seems like a really good time to try it out and learn a little bit, as I really have nothing to lose here.
Crystals extract would be interesting
Any links of a procedure that I could get some good ideas from?
And what % of kratom is alkaloids? I was guessing 10-20%
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom Extract? [Re: CactiSam]
#23447023 - 07/16/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some things to think about, the extra water present in everclear (unless you have 95% or something) will pull more impurities through, especially if hot.
If you want as clean an extract as possible 99% frozen iso is one of the easiest/ best things to try.
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I am not really interested in A/B or ISO, I guess I just wanted some thoughts on if it is still OK (I am fairly sure it is) And how you would go about making sure all the un-wanted liquid is "purged"
AS long as it doesn't smell or look funky it should be fine, the alkaloids may have degraded over time though. Is the "un wanted" liquid water? Or alcohol?
If it is water that has sat for a year you should probably toss it, I doubt lemon juice would be enough to allow it to keep that long but I could be wrong.
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Angel Destroyer said: I would much rather see it in crystal form
See what? Kratom alkaloids? That is bound to be wasteful as kratom has at least 25+ alkaloids so even if you managed to extract down to crystals you most likely would end up with a fraction of all the goodies present in the plant material. So in the process you would lose most of the medicinal effects and synergy that makes kratom so great, not worth it at all IMO unless your like an opiate fiend or something.
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And what % of kratom is alkaloids? I was guessing 10-20%
If that we're true some kratom leaf powder would be 1/5th - 1/10th alkaloids which I think people would have noticed 
Some of the alkaloids in kratom are considerably potent so I imagine many of them occur in relatively small amounts. It probably varies a ton too.
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The actives in Kratom will degrade when exposed to air, and you increased their surface area, then exposed them to air for a year, so I wouldn't put any more work into them until you test to make sure you're not just wasting your time.
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Re: Kratom Extract? [Re: healing]
#23447388 - 07/16/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why not just eat powdered kratom from waulity source. Take 3-7 gs and smoke Christmas trees and honey oil (;
You dont need to extract it. Its potent in itzelf.
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom Extract? [Re: Broly]
#23447410 - 07/16/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Broly said: Why not just eat powdered kratom from waulity source. Take 3-7 gs and smoke Christmas trees and honey oil (;
You dont need to extract it. Its potent in itzelf.
My main interest in extracts is mainly around isolating certain alkaloids to get a specific effect. IE a stimulating or sedating extract.
But I agree completely, just taking a few grams throughout the day even keeps me feeling great especially with some herb and or oil
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