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Love versus hatred?
#23445758 - 07/16/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Which one of these powers do you think is more powerful?
I would put my money on hatred. maybe I am biased because the few points of hatred I have had in my life have been more powerful than the love?
What do ya'll think?
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82] 3
#23445760 - 07/16/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hate is usually a sign of weakness IMO.
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They're the exact same thing.
Both are obsessive, compulsive, unhealthy, full of passion, delusion, biased, life consuming, a wall in front of you and a cage around you, costly, and will become your ultimate demise.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23445767 - 07/16/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: Which one of these powers do you think is more powerful?
I would put my money on hatred. maybe I am biased because the few points of hatred I have had in my life have been more powerful than the love?
What do ya'll think?
I love you topdog82
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: vandago] 1
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vandago said: They're the exact same thing.
Both are obsessive, compulsive, unhealthy, full of passion, delusion, biased, life consuming, a wall in front of you and a cage around you, costly, and will become your ultimate demise.
I don't think you're describing love
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vandago said: They're the exact same thing.
Both are obsessive, compulsive, unhealthy, full of passion, delusion, biased, life consuming, a wall in front of you and a cage around you, costly, and will become your ultimate demise.
I don't think you're describing love
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23445874 - 07/16/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hard to give an answer to such a broad question. Depends on the context really.
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Sophistic Radiance said:
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vandago said: They're the exact same thing.
Both are obsessive, compulsive, unhealthy, full of passion, delusion, biased, life consuming, a wall in front of you and a cage around you, costly, and will become your ultimate demise.
I don't think you're describing love
I don't think you know what love is.
If it's the polar opposite of hate, which it is...isn't it?
Then we are all connected equally through both.
There's no such thing as not hating, that's a delusional concept. Just like living in pure love.
Love is comprise, as is hatred.....you gotta comprise not to rip someone you hate from limb to limb, just like you gotta comprise not to lock someone you love in your basement and give them some space.
They both take up equal space in the mind and the heart though. They both need let go of, and are just as tough to do. They both will stick with you forever depending on the level of whichever you felt.
If you have truly loved then lost then let go, and truly hated then forgave and let go, they are like brother and sister.
Both of em suck.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: vandago]
#23445933 - 07/16/16 04:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hate and love aren't polar opposites. They aren't reflected in one another because they have literally nothing to do with each other.
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None of you fully understand reality. Quite pathetic, really.
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Sophistic Radiance said: Hate and love aren't polar opposites. They aren't reflected in one another because they have literally nothing to do with each other.
I probably don't have the ability to love.
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PeyoteZen said: None of you fully understand reality. Quite pathetic, really. 
Neither did jesus.
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PeyoteZen said: None of you fully understand reality. Quite pathetic, really. 
enlighten us. You do peyote. And practice zen
What have you learned sir?
Also; I never felt true love was obsessive. Lust was. But I think as a relationship between two matures, you respect each others choices
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23445976 - 07/16/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've lusted, and I've loved.
Both are exhausting.
Love is a lot of compromise. It's also very subjective.
I don't believe in this "Love" as a whole, and one, thing. It's dribble to me. There's many forms of it.
I'm also in a really bad mood right now. I don't feel this way everyday/night
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#23445978 - 07/16/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love you Vandago
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: vandago] 1
#23446050 - 07/16/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Being vulnerable enough to love someone and allow yourself to be loved and then getting hurt really really hurts and I think all hate is just a manifestation of pain.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: vandago]
#23446131 - 07/16/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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vandago said: They're the exact same thing.
Both are obsessive, compulsive, unhealthy, full of passion, delusion, biased, life consuming, a wall in front of you and a cage around you, costly, and will become your ultimate demise.
Perfect response. Balance in all things, even the darkness lives in harmony with the light if you choose to see how it is so..
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I don't think I've ever felt pure, true hatred for anything in my life so I can't speak in terms of that
However I have been deeply in love with a girl once upon a time, and like others have said it can be very exhausting when you find all your thoughts revolving around one person and you just can't stop thinking about them even though you want to
Maybe that's not the right way to love and I'll admit to that but at the time I couldn't stop myself from loving her like that, she was just soo amazing and beautiful.. I don't know if I will ever find a girl quite like her ever again but I'm not going to make any effort to look for one because when she cheated on me I was fucked up in the head for months, complete depression followed me after the end of that relationship so I turned to drugs as an escape from the pain of reality and that opened up a whole other can of worms for me
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I hate to say it, I know I'm a cynical pessimist, but I've never seen evidence in my life that hate isn't a 90-95% more enduring emotion. Love comes and goes, except for some very lucky people. Hate is very enduring. Wish it was different world, but it isn't.
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True hate never leaves, you carry it for life. It might seem gone but it effects you, only hiding in the back of your mind in the same way the loss of someone you truly love does. Love and hate are both forms of attachment and vulnerability, without them we become hollow to the world around us. As much as some people lament the presence of such feelings, I feel the pain, desire, and temptation is a discipline we all must face and learn to cope with if we are to develop a mature perception of our lives. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin, a coin that pays for anything. A person who loves too much has the same heart of a person who hates too much. It's been mentioned in this thread, but I think all emotions truly stem from love, even hate. Jealousy, sadness, fear, curiosity.. they're all things we feel in our heart but at the core of it is self love, and the want to love all others as they can of us.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: Patlal] 2
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We only hate because that which we "hate" is what we wish to change, we would love to love it, but it conflicts with us, so we hate it.. Because we care... Because we love
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23446539 - 07/16/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel like hate is the more stressful, and draining emotion - so I guess in That sense, it is more forceful, and more disruptive - like you cant help but pay attention to it. Or can you?
Because then theres love. This calming feeling - like youre wrapped in a blanket of warmth and happiness. You are full of acceptance and forgiveness, and more apt to find positive solutions to whatever happens in life. For this reason, I say love is less forceful (because it doesnt need to be), more elusive (because we tend to mainly exist in a fearful society), but insanely more powerful, like 1000x the torque of hate, and probably more still.
Love conquers all, and is humankinds only hope for getting off this planet alive together, among other things.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: ManianFH]
#23447738 - 07/16/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Love is stronger. There is a saying god loves us more then the devil hates us.
Love is infinite , hatred is destruction. Hating something is on the low end of the enrgy spectrum , vibrating lower , love vibrates faster and higher.
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#23447778 - 07/16/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think hate may be more obvious on the surface, but love goes much deeper - and in its depths, love is more powerful. but it's a subtler power, that takes a certain surrender into it in order to experience
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: deff] 1
#23448820 - 07/17/16 05:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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deff said: i think hate may be more obvious on the surface, but love goes much deeper - and in its depths, love is more powerful. but it's a subtler power, that takes a certain surrender into it in order to experience 
ya that last part is true. I can deff agree with that (if you see what I did there ). Especially the part about surrendering. Love weakens the ego and in a context its healthy and promotes grwth. hatred can't help someone grow at all
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23449641 - 07/17/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Love vs Hate? Which is stronger?
Is that even a thing in your life? 
Love can take a black hole as large as a universe and punch it out in all directions in a fraction of a second.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: Asante]
#23449650 - 07/17/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What if i love to hate which one wins?
Juss fuckin around I love you people.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: Plain]
#23449775 - 07/17/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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niether is more powerful theyre both equally important n u cant have one without the other duh
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pirate-blues said: Being vulnerable enough to love someone and allow yourself to be loved and then getting hurt really really hurts and I think all hate is just a manifestation of pain.
if love makes u vulnerable it also makes u stronger
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Love > hatred any fucking day. Love is the ultimate expression of humanity. Not just romantic love, but love in general. To love & be loved is where it's at. Doesn't matter where you're from, what if any religion you practice, what you look like, how much you have.....we're all here on a spinning ball of rock, water, air, and life in the middle of an incredibly vast expanse of space & other stuff. We're all caught up in this thing called life together. We all have more in common than not. More in common then many of us are willing to accept. There is no reason beyond the baser aspects of humanity as to why we can't love each other & get along. Love is the most important thing. Hatred is succumbing to ignorance, ego, misunderstanding & negativity. It's poison to us, and to the world around us. Fuck hate. I'll side with love any day.
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Well since I'm a sith lord both hate and love fuel my power but hate works really well when destroying Jedi. So I'd say hate is more powerful in this sense but love is usually the more powerful one. Both are powerful emotions and have their uses essentially.
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The first legitimate reply this thread has had.
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Sophistic Radiance said: Hate is usually a sign of weakness IMO.
yeah mostly hate comes from fear love is definitely stronger and the nobler of the two
hate however makes for better action sequences and is definitely more compelling in the hollywood format cus it just looks cooler generally
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23451107 - 07/17/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have you ever been high?
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23451325 - 07/17/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think it all depends on the person feeling the emotion. Some people have the ability to forgive and move on because they know hating will only hurt them, others do not. It's a question of which is stronger within yourself...
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23451493 - 07/17/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I do'nt understand the question. Hate is an emotion, love is a current. The opposite ov hate is compassion, the opposite ov love is restriction. Both compassion and hate can dis-solve in love. Love is all ways there and nowhere, it's only hidden by the restrictions we create and fall victim to.
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I would argue that the opposite of love is indifference, rather than hate.
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Jokeshopbeard said: I would argue that the opposite of love is indifference, rather than hate.
Well then you need a dictionary
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: azur]
#23451556 - 07/17/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Show me where it is categorically stated and verified that the opposite of love is hate.
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It won't. But it will define the word indifference
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indifference noun 1. lack of interest, concern, or sympathy.
love noun 1. a strong feeling of affection.
IMO, love and hate are both sides of the same coin, whilst indifference is on the other.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: Ezuma]
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Sophistic Radiance said: Hate is usually a sign of weakness IMO.
yeah mostly hate comes from fear love is definitely stronger and the nobler of the two
hate however makes for better action sequences and is definitely more compelling in the hollywood format cus it just looks cooler generally
most hate comes from love i told u already. duh
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Jokeshopbeard said: indifference noun 1. lack of interest, concern, or sympathy.
love noun 1. a strong feeling of affection.
IMO, love and hate are both sides of the same coin, whilst indifference is on the other.
what is love?
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Asante said: Baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no more.
way to give the most basic anwser that everyone says. A more fun answer is "I want you to show me" even then doesnt answer the question.
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Shit I can't get them to stop unless I start popping random presses and start dancing it out.
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: Asante]
#23453087 - 07/18/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: indifference noun 1. lack of interest, concern, or sympathy.
love noun 1. a strong feeling of affection.
IMO, love and hate are both sides of the same coin, whilst indifference is on the other.
what is love?
What is a soul? Where does it come from? What is god? What is consciousness? etc, etc.
Don't ask silly questions and you won't get silly answers.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
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Jokeshopbeard said: indifference noun 1. lack of interest, concern, or sympathy.
love noun 1. a strong feeling of affection.
IMO, love and hate are both sides of the same coin, whilst indifference is on the other.
what is love?
What is a soul? Where does it come from? What is god? What is consciousness? etc, etc.
Don't ask silly questions and you won't get silly answers.
ur the one thats being truely silly bout it now lets stop the gamez here bb
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: Asante]
#23453176 - 07/18/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said: Baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no more.
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Jokeshopbeard
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: ur the one thats being truely silly bout it
I've come to conclude that the art of debate is pretty much entirely lost on the Pub.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Love versus hatred? [Re: topdog82]
#23453746 - 07/18/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would have to say love, hate has a tendency to starve pretty fast if you don't feed it, a fleeting emotion
Love I think, is tied into the existence of life itself in a creative sense
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Repertoire89 said: Love I think, is tied into the existence of life itself in a creative sense
That's it right there IMO. I don't pretend to understand it but I feel it more strongly than anything I've ever felt.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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That's it right there IMO. I don't pretend to understand it but I feel it more strongly than anything I've ever felt.
I feel the same way, its not something I understand, but it seems like the more profound spiritual experiences I have had always emphasize that. Can't say I've ever experienced a moment of hatred, fear or anger in such a time
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Repertoire89 said: it seems like the more profound spiritual experiences I have had always emphasize that.
Likewise. I mean the full force of it literally blows my head off when I get deep into such experiences. I often get something like an electric shock shoot down my spine when in the deepest moments of connection.
I know a few friends have felt similar at distinct moments in their existence and they can almost always recount them with near perfect clarity. But there's often so very few in the lifetimes of those I know.
I sometimes wonder if I'm chasing it via meditation and psychedelics; but none the less I seem to feel it with some frequency compared to most based on the accounts of the many other people I have discussed this with.
The kicker is the fact that there's just no understanding it. I don't think there will be this side of death, or enlightenment, if ever.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Every moment is a spiritual experience, but when I meditate, the profound OBE's become increasingly frequent. Its been awhile since I maintained a consistent meditation regimen
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Repertoire89 said: Every moment is a spiritual experience
That's the dream though isn't it? To achieve a state where one is profoundly and constantly aware of this fact. I think it's achievable, although high level of dedication is required...
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Love, of course. Hate cannot penetrate a heart full of love. Likewise....Love is your best shot at defeating hatred. It is like light and dark....light always wins.
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Repertoire89 said: Every moment is a spiritual experience
That's the dream though isn't it? To achieve a state where one is profoundly and constantly aware of this fact. I think it's achievable, although high level of dedication is required...
Part of it yes, though I only know what I believe and have experienced
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How else would you describe the dream aside of that?
To me, the most fitting description came from my teacher while I was on retreat recently. He was explaining that the Buddhist concept/state of 'enlightenment' is one where one realises that the separation we feel is simply an illusion. He's by far the closest human to this state I have ever met too - just being around him fills me with awe - something I've never felt in the presence of another...
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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From my perspective, samadhi is to life, what intonation is to music Without form and structure, intonation lacks its true potential
Samadhi then is the first step, but just as in music, one is never done progressing Intonation may be the most basic musical element, but one can always delve further into the note
Without a doubt the most spiritually advanced individual I have met in person is Muslim Though "Muslim" becomes a broad category with some people
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good job guys i now hate u more than ever u wanted this
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: good job guys i now hate u more than ever u wanted this
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you can always love people that hate you but you can't always hate people that truly love you. so love is more powerful
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: good job guys i now hate u more than ever u wanted this
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why is that good?
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: why is that good?
I thrive on hatred, it nourishes me
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oh well i was just kiddin n stuff dewd u guys are like my family without you i got nuffin left
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