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Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms?
    #23445438 - 07/15/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can you fly, create landscapes in your head like in a lucid dream?

Can you have control over what you wanna see and materialize whatever you want? Like a sexy hot girl for example?


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Gaspard]
    #23445460 - 07/15/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No, not really.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Staplerhead]
    #23445481 - 07/15/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

no


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: thelastoneleft]
    #23445487 - 07/15/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yeah shrooms dont really work like that, you can have some control over navigation in some areas of the experience but It has a mind of its own and wants to drag you along for whatever ride it feels like. :S


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23445499 - 07/15/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

your not going to be able to control a shroom trip, just enjoy it


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: SleepyE] * 2
    #23445502 - 07/15/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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yeah shrooms dont really work like that, you can have some control over navigation in some areas of the experience but It has a mind of its own and wants to drag you along for whatever ride it feels like. :S




IMO, shrooms are like a guided journey. Acid, on the other hand, feels a lot more "lucid" in that you can control and influence the trip a lot more. It's also a lot more clearheaded and less "mystical" compared to shrooms. Shrooms, to me, feel like awakening an ancient being, and you are at its mercy.

Like someone once said, acid asks the questions, shrooms provide the answers.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: jds]
    #23445531 - 07/15/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There's this video where a girl says she can go back in time and visit whatever memory she wants.

I never tried super high doses but I found it kinda weird, since i've never seen anything other than fractals.



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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Gaspard]
    #23445965 - 07/16/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

At super high doses if you lie down and shut your eyes you will slip into this weird place in the middle of nowhere. You will forget who and where you are, you will be shown some things and you will see some stuff. its crazy dude.... Like a dream almost!


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Rainman13]
    #23446455 - 07/16/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can you have Shroom-like experiences with Lucid dreaming is the real question.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Rainman13]
    #23446526 - 07/16/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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At super high doses if you lie down and shut your eyes you will slip into this weird place in the middle of nowhere. You will forget who and where you are, you will be shown some things and you will see some stuff. its crazy dude.... Like a dream almost!






What are the craziest things you have been shown?


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23446530 - 07/16/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you have Shroom-like experiences with Lucid dreaming is the real question.




Shrooms is a weird thing, you might be able to recreate the visuals aspects of a shroom trip in a dream, but not the psychological one.

Dreams are very weird too but in a different way, in a lucid dream you can totally visit places where you will be memerized how the hell your mind can create things that are so real and vivid(textures,sounds,smells etc.)like you could be typing in your computer right now and there wouldn't be any difference between that and real life.



An interesting thing about "Non Lucid Dreams" is that you also forget who you are, you only become lucid when remember who you are and realize you are in the dream world.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23446591 - 07/16/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you have Shroom-like experiences with Lucid dreaming is the real question.




I've done coke in my dreams and it actually felt like coke. Recently though I for the first time ever had a trip that I took some psychedelic (i think shrooms) and was tripping but I barley remember it.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23446644 - 07/16/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Lol shrooms isn't like you can actually imagine something and it just appears lol the 'visuals' are basically just feelings I guess? You feel like there's a hot girl so you might imagine a hot girl lol but you can do the same sober lol you can think of your mom and you can see her in your head correct? And visuals aren't things you can touch lol you'll come back into this universe  after you move lol you can't just go up to a visual and start punching it

A person who asks this obviously got their idea of shrooms from brian on family guy :ooo:


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23446712 - 07/16/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Are you comparing dreams to simply imagining things in your head because it's a little more than that.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23446730 - 07/16/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Apparently you've never had a lucid dream, in the dream world things are just as real as real life(you can see, touch, hear, smell)you become totally immersed in whatever reality you're in and unaware of your real physical body.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Gaspard]
    #23447024 - 07/16/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There have been times where on a high dose shroom trip I would be in different landscapes, like one time i was walking in a jungle. It was like a dream or just a very vivid scene playing out in my mind. I was laying down with my eyes closed during my whole time too so maybe that affected the direction of the trip.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Gaspard] * 1
    #23447264 - 07/16/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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At super high doses if you lie down and shut your eyes you will slip into this weird place in the middle of nowhere. You will forget who and where you are, you will be shown some things and you will see some stuff. its crazy dude.... Like a dream almost!






What are the craziest things you have been shown?



Well ive only had one really high dose and this only happened to me once... Ummm I just died (not physically of course!!!) and then its hard to explain after that. hard to recall because it was 4 years ago too... I just rememer being taught all these things about cultures..... Like cultures of mushrooms... Cultures of people. Like how we are like a culture in a way. Like mold taking over a sustrate. The earth is like a sandwich and we are slowly eating it and we are growing exponentially. One day we will eat too much! I was shown so much more that night but this is honestly the best i can come up with right now!


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Rainman13]
    #23447882 - 07/16/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have very little control over what happens in a trip. however. the one time i did a "heroic dose" of a little over 7g i went way beyond my normal type trip and was able to time travel, learn different languages, and at one point i held the entire universe in my hand and crushed it. at that point i realized that i should probably remake it so i did. all of this was of my own free will, at least that's what i thought at the time. it didn't seem like i was just riding the wave.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Gaspard] * 1
    #23447976 - 07/16/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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At super high doses if you lie down and shut your eyes you will slip into this weird place in the middle of nowhere. You will forget who and where you are, you will be shown some things and you will see some stuff. its crazy dude.... Like a dream almost!






What are the craziest things you have been shown?




On lsd it was bubbles of existence bubbles being on the same level of existence and some containing other bubbles and each one being contained by other bubbles as far up and down as i could travel. That is to say that if i looked at the bubbles in my hands i would see the life forms they contained and the universes inside. And if i looked out i was a part of a different bubble. I was shown how to change my vibrational frequencies to be in that state at any time

On mushrooms i discovered the meaning of life, and what big bang and panspermia theory are and what parts are correct and what is not


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23456823 - 07/19/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've seen Aliens and had the experience of giving birth to a baby and seen other very crystal-clear things on mushrooms that were very bizarre. Usually on any Psychedelic the hallucinations are very distinguishable from dream-like visions. But I have to say, very High doses of mushrooms can give you some very clear, realistic visions. Close to dream-like, but you're completely conscious obviously.

I remember a lucid dream I had a long time ago where I was in a forest and saw this giant glass house. And I saw this lady with long blonde dreadlocks walk out of it and she walked towards me and put her hand on my heart. I felt fantastic and the next day after I woke up I went to school and felt totally amazing and at peace with myself. People at school actually thought I was stoned or something. It felt similar to the feeling you have after a really strong 2CB trip. Funny too that often on 2CB I've had the same experience of some magical looking being touching my heart and opening me up to my emotions. Really weird.

That was a fleeting experience though, and usually Psychedelics and dreams are pretty distinct from each other. But I've had a few experiences where dreams and Psychedelics have seemed very similar.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: mctaveesh] * 1
    #23456941 - 07/19/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've only experienced something like that on a relatively high dose, though "lucid" isn't the word I'd use to describe it.

Usually mushrooms are extremely mental for me with visuals being restricted to neon fractals, mushroom fractals, diving down fractal tunnels, that sort of thing.

The time that I'm referring to Some friends and I had bought some that turned out to be wayy more potent that what we were used to. Near the peak I couldn't speak coherently and was having a huge amount of anxiety about cops, jail, etc. (I was a teenager camping in a tent at a State Park, give me a break.)

I went into the tent to lay down with another friend who seemed to be in the same boat. Almost as soon as I closed my eyes I was flying through this (Obviously Asian) mountainous landscape. No fractals, no distortions, just the most over-saturated, drop-dead gorgeous, Imax quality landscape, and I was flying through it. This continued for the 20 minutes or so that I had my eyes closed, with the landscape changing occasionally, but it was always this golden-hued heartbreakingly beautiful environment, and I was just observing it from above, beside myself with awe.

Psychedelics surprise me almost every time I take them. Using words to describe the experience is like using morse-code to describe Mozart.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Larch]
    #23457079 - 07/19/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Right. I love how Psychedelics can surprise you. Getting those breathtaking, overwhelming visions can be uncommon but in a way it makes it more special.

On high doses of shrooms I always get amazing beauty. But those clear, amazing visions are like rare jewels.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23457299 - 07/19/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Intention of the trip is important. For the OP your question is valid but the wording needs revision IMO.

I would ask - Is it possible to peek into alternate dimensions? Is it possible to come to understand the reality outside our normal range of perception? Is it possible to start to understand the things we normally deem impossible? Is it possible to understand ones self without ego? All the answers to those questions are yes.

Although just munching a bunch of shrooms with your buddies for fun, probably wont open those doors. Intent, setting, purpose, preparation. Those are all pre coursers to achieving the elevated state of mind that will guide you down that type of path.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Gaspard]
    #23457575 - 07/19/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have had similar experiences to this - one in which I found myself face down on the floor of my bedroom for what had to have been an hour.

A strange, celestial being of light was showing me the architecture and technical mechanics of their world. There were no words, yet somehow I could understand the things that were being shown to me: great, shining silver pistons beneath layers of steel, incredible byways made of air and glass. It was muddied and all happened very fast. When I came out of it, I was absolutely in shock at what I had seen.

The rest of the evening was one of the greatest trips I've ever had.


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Re: Is it possible to have lucid dream like experiences with shrooms? [Re: Gaspard]
    #23457632 - 07/19/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you fly, create landscapes in your head like in a lucid dream?

Can you have control over what you wanna see and materialize whatever you want? Like a sexy hot girl for example?




Not so much.  But I've had visions: among those flying over the nearby landscape to a field about 15 miles away where the mushroom spirits said there would be liberty caps growing.  And when I drove there the next day (never been there before) indeed there were liberty caps growing...


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