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Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD)
    #23445313 - 07/15/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Recently I took an LSD trip on what to me is a small dose (110ug or so) and to be brutally honest the experience was quite underwhelming. The majority of information you will read about harm reduction and LSD states that it's better to start off with a lower dose (which makes perfect sense) and work your way up. I believe this - my first trip was on only 100ug or so and it was a beautiful experience.

Since then I've been working my way up in dosage, taking more and more each time, going deeper and deeper into the psychedelic experience. So what I'm wondering, for those of you who have taken a wide variety of dosages, do you prefer tripping on a lower or higher dosage? During my most recent trip, I felt like it was such a wasted experience. I had what many would consider quite heavy visuals, strong auditory hallucinations, and some euphoria. But I feel like it's now much harder to appreciate the effects of 100ug after tripping on and thoroughly enjoying LSD in dosages as high as 400ug. When I'm on a lower dosage, all I can think about is how amazing music sounds once I pass the 200ug threshold, how clear and colorful the visuals can get, and how I can feel connected with the earth and with god.

Does anyone else feel this too? Am I alone here? Am I doomed to taking five strips for the rest of eternity? Maybe I just need to take a long break from psychedelics. Anyways, I'd appreciate hearing your opinions! :smile:


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: 3Beatles9]
    #23445336 - 07/15/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I find that with 300+ug I can consistently have strong experiences. Anything under that and I can find the trips underwhelming at times. I've had some of my best trips on 400-500ug.

However, if I'm looking to just have a nice trip with friends or whatever, then 80-150ug feels just right.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: jds]
    #23445337 - 07/15/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

When I started using lsd I liked low doses. Now I don't want to take less than 250UG+ for a good trip. You get used to the effects and they get a little boring


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LSDollar]
    #23445494 - 07/15/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've tripped a vial of dos, a hit or two.. two good hits is all anyone really needs, if not your stuffs weak... 300 mics have most outta sight outta mind


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: thelastoneleft]
    #23445521 - 07/15/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I like my doses right around 1 mg. Ive done various dosages and 1.5 is too much too fast for me, its enjoyable but not as rememberable. More of an extended dmt hyperspace (obv not exactly the same but reminiscent of)


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23445534 - 07/15/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Years back, I did religious doses (12 hits of something called window pane one night).  I found I only need those experiences once in a blue moon.  I find lower doses nice for a psychic top up and can be tolerated on a more regular basis than attempting rapture every time out.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: KenInVic]
    #23445555 - 07/15/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Years back, I did religious doses (12 hits of something called window pane one night).  I found I only need those experiences once in a blue moon.  I find lower doses nice for a psychic top up and can be tolerated on a more regular basis than attempting rapture every time out.




Believe it or not Owsley Stanley, said over dosing was 300 mics, not the ideals of actual overdosing though. As I said have taken a vial around 100 hits 80-110 mics.. average it to 100 for math purposes 10,000 mics. The average tripper without a tolerance is going to black out off 5-6 hundred mics.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: KenInVic]
    #23445562 - 07/15/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its true the doses getting upto and past 1mg can be fully of amnesia.

But i def enjoy 650ug to 1mg the best.

Ive been usually eating 8 hits of 110ug blotter and its been just stellar.


As ive taken a longer time off my trip will prob be 6 hits.  But i really like the feel of a heavy lsd trip.

Owhen you take less i find the side effects are more pronounced, maybe because the ego hasnt beenshattered.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23445564 - 07/15/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What do you mean about what owsley said?

His barrels if i remember correctly were around 280ugs


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: thelastoneleft]
    #23445565 - 07/15/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Years back, I did religious doses (12 hits of something called window pane one night).  I found I only need those experiences once in a blue moon.  I find lower doses nice for a psychic top up and can be tolerated on a more regular basis than attempting rapture every time out.




Believe it or not Owsley Stanley, said over dosing was 300 mics, not the ideals of actual overdosing though. As I said have taken a vial around 100 hits 80-110 mics.. average it to 100 for math purposes 10,000 mics. The average tripper without a tolerance is going to black out off 5-6 hundred mics.




To say the least, the 12 hits of window pane was just a bit fucked up.  I know I was somewhere, not where that was though.  Never did it again for 40 years.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: KenInVic]
    #23445570 - 07/15/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Did i read that correctly you ate a vial?


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23445590 - 07/15/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Did i read that correctly you ate a vial?




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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: thelastoneleft]
    #23445624 - 07/16/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How long did you trip for?

Do you remember any of the peak?

How long till you could sleep?

What was the come up like?

Can you tell me about the trip?


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23445688 - 07/16/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Damn reading these posts makes me so pumped for my next trip. I'll try 750 next. What is it like? My highest is 400ish, do the effects top off at a certain point or does it get even better?


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: 3Beatles9]
    #23445741 - 07/16/16 01:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nope, they get stronger past 400


But expect some amnesia from the peak, unfortunately its hard to remember everything


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23445877 - 07/16/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone is different, to each their own, but me personally? I prefer higher doses if you consider five strips and up higher. I've gone up to ten hits that were deffinitely the best hits I've ever had and even as laid out as I was I still had a completely rockin time. I even did a quarter of some bomb ass boomers and a ten strip and this was me that night
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Just pure good times, always know where I am and what's going on. I've read more than a couple times that it's better to dose high than low if what you're going for is "the psychadelic experience". Also waiting more than two weeks to have another experience hasn't made 100 ug much stronger, in my experience. Rock on good Sirs
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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Spinz McGrinz] * 1
    #23445926 - 07/16/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Im taking the first tab ive had in nearly 3 years next weekend! So excited wish me luck fellars!!!


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Rainman13]
    #23445966 - 07/16/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

High Dose Usually 300 Micrograms which tends to be alot for Most...But Thats My Sweet Spot!:seriousthumbsup::trippinbawelz::mindblown:


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: superbob57] * 1
    #23446124 - 07/16/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I find too low of a dose to bring on more floppy drunken body loads. I prefer to dose in the range of 175 to 350 mics depending on how hard I want to trip.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: 3Beatles9]
    #23446598 - 07/16/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

200 to 250ug is the dose.

For me only taking 1 good hit (100 mics) is like only taking a half eighth of shrooms so I tend to shoot for double that or more.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: 3Beatles9]
    #23447014 - 07/16/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Damn reading these posts makes me so pumped for my next trip. I'll try 750 next. What is it like? My highest is 400ish, do the effects top off at a certain point or does it get even better?




I've done a few trips in the 700-800ug range. They were mindblowing, but expect a very chaotic come up and peak. Don't expect to be functional in any way.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23447036 - 07/16/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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200 to 250ug is the dose.

For me only taking 1 good hit (100 mics) is like only taking a half eighth of shrooms so I tend to shoot for double that or more.



i tend to find myself feeling underwhelmed if i take 100 mics. Around the 5 hour mark i usually feel like i should have taken more.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: jds]
    #23447198 - 07/16/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Depending on tolerance and other drugs taken at the same time.

Usually i get visuals that wrap around me, a distinct feeling of being able to see everything with my eyes closed. I can see through my hands and my body at this point and its a totally different world with the lights out than with the lights on. The headspace is much different than at say 300 mics.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23447274 - 07/16/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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i tend to find myself feeling underwhelmed if i take 100 mics. Around the 5 hour mark i usually feel like i should have taken more.




ya I find low doses of LSD good for other things but not for tripping or having a full blown psychedelic experience. For being creative or relaxing or getting in touch with nature 100ug is a splendid dose but if I want some other dimensional shit I need to take 200.

At least with half an eighth of mushrooms I can still sit and enjoy the trip. Even if I only take 1 gram I'll still be occupied for several hours by it whereas 70 to 110ug of LSD I kind of need something to do..I can't just sit and watch the trip unfold like I can with comparatively low doses of mushrooms.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23447296 - 07/16/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Same here, its good for a more social setting like having a few friends over. Tho when i pair it up with mdma 100 mics can get pretty intense at times.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23447392 - 07/16/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Haha some of you guys are the exacr opposite of me i take lsd and find a place to sit and chill


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23447497 - 07/16/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i generally sit and chill too on lsd but i do enjoy moving around. Higher doses i sit for alot of my trip.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23447504 - 07/16/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I dont normally go below 5 100 ug tabs or 2 300 ug tabs


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23447532 - 07/16/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

id like to do a heavier dose some point soon. did 330 ug on canada day and that was very nice. Id like to do another 500 to 700 ug dose. Been like 9 years haha.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23447612 - 07/16/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Haha some of you guys are the exacr opposite of me i take lsd and find a place to sit and chill




I mean that's pretty much what I do. LSD for me isn't as stimulating as a lot of people make it out to be. It's pretty relaxing usually especially when surrounded by nature.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: 3Beatles9]
    #23448183 - 07/16/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have never taken less than a single tab (mine are all pretty consistently 100ug or over) My sweet spot is around 300ug or so, things get insanely profound and the visuals are incredible. You start to loose yourself a bit at 300ug as you melt into the couch and watch the universe slowly melt, very good for meditating and self reflection


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23448381 - 07/17/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree lsd isnt very stimulating in large doses around the peak.


However, i do feel stimulated when im at about 10hours in and start to come down.


What are some good sleep aids for after a trip excluding weed, benzos, and alcohol?


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23448388 - 07/17/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Melotonin always seemed to help, whether it is placebo or not it definitely helps me fall asleep within 20-30 minutes at the end of my acid trips.

I thought LSD was stimulating until my 30th trip or so. Now it feels very natural and I enjoy it a lot more, your trips change as you do


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23448429 - 07/17/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ive dosed well over 30 but we are all different


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LuckeyMA] * 1
    #23449739 - 07/17/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

100 mics is a hell of a lot stronger then most folks give it credit for. For a long time, folks were pumping out 20-50 mic hits & selling them all as 100 mics per. The folks that did lay 80-100 mic hits.... Those were sold as 130-200 mics. And all the customers believed what they were told. Which has left us with a whole generation that has no idea how potent LSD really is. Thankfully, with the advent of the DNM, and increasingly common sending of doses to be tested in a lab, potency has gone back up & people are starting to learn how potent LSD is.

I have a long history with this substance. It's my closest psychedelic ally. I've researched it in depth, and spent some years previously in my life doing the best I could to spread it around the country. During this time I ate a lot. Both by frequency & dose. Tolerance rises rapidly & doesn't completely dissipate as rapidly as many people seem to think.  Therefore my preferred doses fluctuated greatly. When I was involved in that work, I took a lot. There was a time when my preferred doses were in the milligram range. Nowadays, not even close. 100 mics is a strong dose. Take that with zero tolerance & it's not underwhelming at all. Today I won't take more than ~200 mics. Blows me away every time, and I get as much if not more than I did from my milligram & multi-milligram doses of the past. On very rare occasions I'll take as low as ~50 mics.....occasions where I'm just looking for some enhancement....and even that gets me higher than expected.

People put way too much focus on dose. Seems like every one wants to have the strongest doses, or take the most. Cocks & tape measures & the like. Problem with that is that it ignores a very important fact; psychedelic experiences are a confluence of factors.  Obviously it's the drug that catalyzes the experience. But the experience itself is impacted by myriad factors; where you are, where your head is at & has been at in recent weeks/months, how much sleep you've been getting, the quality of this sleep, recent diet, hydration, stress/lack of stress, the interaction with some random stranger at the grocery store, the weather....the tiniest details. They all add up. It really blows my mind that with the decades we've had to explore these substances, all these factors are still ignored by the majority of psychedelic users.

My preferred dose these days is moderately strong to strong; 100-200 mics. I don't do it often, so when I do it's an event. Makes my spunion years seem like a waste. Which they were. But I'm happy with where I'm at today, and I doubt I'd be here if I'd lived a different lifestyle when I was younger.

LuckeyMA - not exactly a sleep aid, but I've found that K greatly enhances the comedown phase + makes it much more relaxing.....and I fall asleep quicker than I would otherwise.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23449774 - 07/17/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What are some good sleep aids for after a trip excluding weed, benzos, and alcohol?




Opiates or melatonin


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23450105 - 07/17/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What are some good sleep aids for after a trip excluding weed, benzos, and alcohol?




Opiates or melatonin




Melatonin or DPH  :lookatit:


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: 3Beatles9]
    #23461382 - 07/21/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm a bit of a noob with LSD my highest dose is 3 tabs and that was my second time. I took 2 tabs my first time. Never done just 100 ugs. But I Hate feeling like I could've wanted more in the morning. So I take more and I'm usually pleased


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: 3Beatles9]
    #23461416 - 07/21/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I prefer high dose in all psychedelics. I just don't get anything out of low dose.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: nooneman]
    #23461642 - 07/21/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

300ug gives me the LSD experience I want. Synesthesia, the works. Didn't like going higher though. Less isn't enough.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: YeOlde]
    #23461793 - 07/21/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

theres a sweet spot with LSD I find its different for everyone. Some people are fried from 150mics and some feel they need 250 or more to really get the full effects they are looking for.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23461921 - 07/21/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I gave my friend 300 mics for his first tab. I was gonna tell him to cut it in half but decided he should just eat the whole thing. He said he had an amazing time. He didnt have any expectations other than its different


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23461975 - 07/21/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thats the best way to go into it i find. When people build shit up or tell you its going to be "this way" then you can almost get underwhelmed or even psych yourself out. You could start getting paranoid thinking how your experience is nothing like what your friends describe and then endup having a bad trip. I remember times when i would feel like i was stuck forever or that I broke my brain and was permanent fried hahahaha. That was when i was like 17ish tho and fairly new to psychs


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23462010 - 07/21/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It depends on my tolerance at times. At one point in my life I would take 3-4 hits on a normal night of tripping but now that ive been out of the game just getting back into hanging with Lucy again I would prolly take no more than 2 100ug tabs in a night. It all just depends on where I wanna go to that night and how far I want to go :wink:


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23463681 - 07/21/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah there is a sweet spot for :lsdabc: Seems to be around 300-400ugs for me!:seriousthumbsup::trippnballs::trippinbawelz::manofapproval:


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: superbob57]
    #23463960 - 07/21/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

200-300 mics for myself. Wife likes more of a 100-150 trip.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: dcthestar]
    #23507950 - 08/03/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know how relevant this post is, but to the question about sleep after taking a vial.. You will sleep easier than a average to moderate dosage, you will wake up a little fucked up for about a week, you will not be tripping just little out of it. I was not a novice tripper taking that amount though.


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Re: Do you prefer low dose or high dose? (LSD) [Re: thelastoneleft]
    #23507954 - 08/03/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I find 200-300ug is enough for a nice trip, more if I want an intense experience.


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