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Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey
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Apparently not as big news as the truck attack though scanning US media.... 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/
Turkey has declared martial law, Istanbul has been isolated and shut down to outside traffic, all airports closed, tanks on the street, jets flying overhead.... shit's going down, facebook, twitter, and other social media blocked, clashes between police and military, and Erodgan says everythings okay....
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Believe it or not you can still book a holiday to Turkey from here!
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Litto]
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Seems like bigger news. Every cable outlet is on it, even the financial ones.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Yeah man, this seems to be second class news to the terror attack in France here in the UK too. Watching the news now. This is some crazy shit!
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Litto]
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Litto said: Believe it or not you can still book a holiday to Turkey from here!
My mom goes to Antalya every year.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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This is possibly a good thing. Erdoghan was supporting both ISIS and Al-Qaeda linked militants in Syria. He was also personally profiting billions of $$$ off stolen oil from Daesh while at the same time waging a civil war in his own country against the Kurds, and even risked war with Russia by shooting down their plane. He was a madman, plain and simple.
If the new government in Turkey is sane and pursues a policy of peace, it could completely change the situation in Syria ... especially if Turkey finally stops supporting the jihadist terrorist groups.
Wow, this is some serious shit.
Hoping for the best.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: chopstick]
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chopstick said: This is possibly a good thing. Erdoghan was supporting both ISIS and Al-Qaeda linked militants in Syria. He was also personally profiting billions of $$$ off stolen oil from Daesh while at the same time waging a civil war in his own country against the Kurds, and even risked war with Russia by shooting down their plane. He was a madman, plain and simple.
If the new government in Turkey is sane and pursues a policy of peace, it could completely change the situation in Syria ... especially if Turkey finally stops supporting the jihadist terrorist groups.
Wow, this is some serious shit.
Hoping for the best.
I'm hoping that those are the actions the army is rebelling against and that the outcome is positive as well...
However it's such a delicate situation it's hard to say. If it becomes too prolonged it may see an influx of foreign fighters and an immense complication of the situation akin to Syria.... and if any sort of civil war flares up in Turkey the ensuing humanitarian crisis will make Syria look like nothing whatsoever, and thus in turn probably further fuel right wing isolation/nationalist sentiments in Europe.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
#23444325 - 07/15/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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10:33pm Foreign Office advice: avoid public places and remain vigilant We are aware of the current developments in Turkey. We are urgently seeking more information. Until the situation becomes clearer, we advise you to avoid public places and remain vigilant.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Litto]
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They shut down all social media after erdogan used FaceTime to call into a tv station.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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What an interesting time we live in.
It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
#23444399 - 07/15/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who is they? The government or the military or the police or rebellious citizens or foreign agents or terrorists?
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Patlal] 2
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Patlal said: What an interesting time we live in.
It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
Lol. People think the President runs the world
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Patlal] 4
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Patlal said: What an interesting time we live in.
It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
Oh yeah, it was all super dandy with bush and 9/11, afganistan & iraq invasions, and the global economic depression
Maybe look at how one thing actually leads to another? Shit happening 60 years ago and everything inbetween has set the stage for what's happening today. No single actor can come close to claiming responsibility.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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The president sure thinks the president runs the world
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Ras Rising]
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11:07pm Boris Johnson: 'very concerned by events in Turkey' Britain's new Foreign Secretary tweets:
Mr Johnson's great-grandfather was an opposition figure in the late Ottoman period, who was lynched during Turkey's War of Independence in the early 1920s.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Patlal]
#23444487 - 07/15/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". .
Nah, just supposed to keep the US stable.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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I am betting this is Russia pushing NATO into war. Brash move.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Patlal]
#23444501 - 07/15/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said: What an interesting time we live in.
It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said: I am betting this is Russia pushing NATO into war. Brash move.
It's possible. But I would doubt it, they aren't poised to win that war.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
#23444510 - 07/15/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They could do too much allies with China. Things looks bad all around the world. Shit is boiling!
Turkey is a front line for US nuclear forces.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
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Yet here we have idiots in the US claiming that they experience the same shit in our "police state"
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy] 1
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Morel Guy said: They could do too much allies with China. Things looks bad all around the world. Shit is boiling!
Turkey is a front line for US nuclear forces.
I don't think China is particularly interested in aggressive conflict with the US at this moment. Their economy relies on us... Russia on the other hand has been economically ailing for much of the last 8 years. I think this is mostly a locally initiated action, a lot of people in Turkey are pissed off about just about everything the Erodgan administration has been doing.
Russia does have an interest in creating tension between the US and Turkey to weaken that alliance though, so they will tread carefully but purposefully.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Tanks have opened fire near the Turkish parliament building, Reuters reports, following similar reports from NTV and local journalists about gunfire in Ankara and Istanbul.
Protesters have heard Erdogan’s call to take to the streets, though, and some are chanting “shoulder to shoulder against the coup”. Others have squared off with military forces who’ve closed bridges and streets. In one video, a policeman and military officer argue in a crowd in the street; in another, cars jammed in traffic honked horns in unison as people mill among them. In a third, a crowd sings and lifts up a huge Turkish flag.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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It is not a uprising by the people but the military. China would very much go to war. Those in ?Charge in ?China could care less about us buying cheap junk.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Ras Rising]
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I think it's a bad personal/karma move to ask unarmed and unorganized civilians to sacrifice themselves. Politically it can be supportive.
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Morel Guy said: It is not a uprising by the people but the military. China would very much go to war. Those in ?Charge in ?China could care less about us buying cheap junk.
Hahah uhhh I don't think that's a very realistic prognosis...
They would lose almost 2 trillion in trade instantly upon war with the west.

Trust me they aren't actually that interested in following Russia's path. They -do- care about their economy.
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For fucks sake, let Turkey into the EU and lets fight this nightmare together.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Coup's in Turkey have a much different flavor than in the west as well - there have been about 6-7 military coups in Turkey since its inception. It's sort of tradition
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Like gravy potatoes and Turkey.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Asante]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said: It is not a uprising by the people but the military. China would very much go to war. Those in ?Charge in ?China could care less about us buying cheap junk.
of course they do, the economy is entirely what China cares about,just like every other country
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Turkey getting into wrong hands would be very bad news people.
I'm with the Turkish people all the way with this.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Asante]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Ezuma]
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Lol, we owe China a lot of money that will never be payed without war. It's not consumer goods but them giving us money to fight them!
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Turkey has been in the wrong hands for a decent amount of time. Turkey should have been kicked out of NATO for there roles in Syria.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: trekie]
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We don't know if gas was purchased in exchange for intel. Possibility
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That's what I assume the military is stepping in to end.
They've taken positive action before to aid in the direction of the government... in 97' there was an islamist prime minister starting to fuck shit up that the military removed as well.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Asante]
#23444587 - 07/15/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm with the Turkish people all the way with this.
That is good, but are you certain that all Turkish people are even on the same side?
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
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Patlal said: What an interesting time we live in.
It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said: Lol, we owe China a lot of money that will never be payed without war. It's not consumer goods but them giving us money to fight them!
It's a coup because the leader of turkey is on the verge of a dictatorship. It's not that complicated.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Patlal]
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There's nothing we can do. You're the ones with the army
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There's nothing we can do. You're the ones with the army
Get an army. 
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Patlal]
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NBC reporting that soldiers have begun firing upon civilians
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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There are reports of the Army fighting the police. 
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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That's not good if it's true... It seems the military is pretty split by this event - and I would assume the pro-government forces are the ones firing on civilians in panic.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Asante]
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That's not good if it's true... It seems the military is pretty split by this event - and I would assume the pro-government forces are the ones firing on civilians in panic.
It is true. There's video of it on CNN
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It's a coup because the leader of turkey is on the verge of a dictatorship. It's not that complicated.
Gotta be more to it or they would have simply killed the leader. Seems a bit too perfect with him being out of the country at the time. US bases in Turkey are on their highest alert. Doesn't appear to be a US led coup.
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He's not out of the country. He's on vacation. That's how most coups happen. This is pretty textbook.
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That video isn't fully clear we don't know who was on the bridge and who fired at whom.
Fighter jets are shooting down helicopters.... 20 cops killed storming a special forces base.....
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: trekie]
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This is kinda how the Turkish government was designed. The military has some authority to overthrow non democratic governments.
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I'm with the Turkish people all the way with this.
That is good, but are you certain that all Turkish people are even on the same side?
No, but the majority of all people in any nation are Good people, and its on their side that I am on.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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To early for me to know but who's text book is what I wanna know.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
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anyone else watching the stream on https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara ?
Shits intense, hearing huge sporadic bouts of gunfire and people chanting... something
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yes i posted that forever ago.
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So how does article 5 apply to coups?
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: trekie]
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So apparently the Turkish is constitutionally obligated to intervene if Islam is trying to take control of the government or if the Prime Minister doesn't respect the democracy of the country (dictates).
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Turkey has had a LOT of coups and failed coups. There was a failed one just a couple years ago. For Turkey, this is business as usual. Every couple years/decades, they have a coup. Some are successful, some are not, it'll be interesting to see how this one goes.
I personally think it would be a good thing if they got rid of Ergodan, but he was democratically elected and he'd (probably) hit a term limit eventually. They could have waited him out instead of doing a coup. The problem with coups is that you never know what you end up with. A military junta for sure, but in the long run nothing is guaranteed. Might stay military run forever, might go completely dictatorship, or might become a secular democracy. Zero certainty, everything is up in the air.
At least with waiting out Ergodan less people die and there's more certainty.
But, I would be happy if they forced Ergodan out. The man is a dictator who suppresses free speech, freedom of the press, and dissent in general plain and simple. I just worry about what will happen after he's gone. It would be very easy for someone even worse to replace him.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Patlal]
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We're getting images of some injuries among pro-coup protesters on the Bosphorus Bridge in Istanbul.
Many of them are too graphic to display. Live images broadcast at about 01:10 local time (23:00 GMT) appeared to show a number of people being shot on the bridge.
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The gunfire has been pretty heavy for periods from the sounds of it.
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See, it's those darn guns again, koods.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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I'm sure a lot of it is warning fire, with some of it being shootings.
Dude can't hide for too long, seems like they have the entire city closed in.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Turkey is NATO.
NATO Article 5 states an attack on any NATO nation is an attack on ALL NATO nations. If Turkey were attacked by, say, Syria, NATO would be bound to intervene on Turkey's behalf.
But seeing as how this is an internal regime change (in a nation where coups happen every decade) by an army that the US traditionally supports, I expect theyll let it happen without intervention.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Depends on the new Governments position on remaining in NATO and regarding US bases within their borders.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
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There is active bombing gojng on in ankara. Apparently the Turkish parliament has been bombed by the Air Force.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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Why did they schedule the coup when the leader was on vacation?
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I hadn't heard that he was on vacation, but that's actually smart because it disrupts the chain of command and you can prevent him from reentering the country much easier than you could find him if he hid in the country.
Controlling the border and airports is much easier than a house to house search.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
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Cause Putin gave them a ring
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: nooneman]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
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I can actually think of two leaders just off the top of my head who were found in holes: Saddam and Gaddafi. Well Gaddafi was found in a sewer drain pipe (which I think is a perfect ending for him), but that's a kind of hole.
I wonder how common it is for dictators to be found in holes
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
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It's easier to take power without the head of the military there to actively guide counter-efforts.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Asante]
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I'm with the Turkish people all the way with this.
That is good, but are you certain that all Turkish people are even on the same side?
No, but the majority of all people in any nation are Good people, and its on their side that I am on.
Most people of all nations are peaceloving nonviolent people.
What is a 'good' person? Are most people 'good'? I think it's more complicated. People always think of the nice individuals they meet, well a population isn't that.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: nooneman]
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I wonder how common it is for dictators to be found in holes 
Hitlers supposed body was found in a shell hole
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Asante]
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I'm with the Turkish people all the way with this.
That is good, but are you certain that all Turkish people are even on the same side?
No, but the majority of all people in any nation are Good people, and its on their side that I am on.
Most people of all nations are peaceloving nonviolent people.
Agreed, BUT, there comes a time in life in situations like military coups/revolts, full on war, etc., that the line is drawn in the sand, and a side is picked, even amongst the Good people.
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Patlal said: What an interesting time we live in.
It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
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It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
Why don't you do it... Oh right, because you're Canadian
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It seems the world has gone to shit since Obama took over... Russia stole Crimea. ISIS surged, European countries are building fences around each other to stop immigration rom Syria. The UK bailed on the EU, North Korea became a nuclear power, Iran got offered a an amazing deal, now the Turkish military is pulling the plug on the government...
And here I thought the US presence around the world was supposed to keep the world "stable". Too much inaction from the President.
Why don't you do it... Oh right, because you're Canadian
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They ended WWI ffs, they have no excuse for this fatuous browbeating. Get your shit together, Canada.
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LOL.
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LOL.
Yeah. They can talk about this when as many of them have have died as people from the US have in global matters.
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Al Jazeera is reporting that the Coup has failed, still some sporadic gunfire. President Erodgan reported as due to land at Istanbul airport.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: deucedbi9]
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Al Jazeera is reporting that the Coup has failed, still some sporadic gunfire. President Erodgan reported as due to land at Istanbul airport.
In b4 SAM coup
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Most of the streams were nixxed as well... I think they're mostly manipulating information to keep the citizenry in the dark and from organizing on a larger scale.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
#23444947 - 07/15/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bloodthirsty much?
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He's an Islamist who will turn turkey into a full dictatorship if he isn't defeated right now. Kill him dead
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
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koods said: They need to kill erdogan and get this over with.
Can't they just taze him.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
#23444960 - 07/15/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Sun King]
#23444965 - 07/15/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is the whole Turkish military on board with this (meaning a majority of the military leaders) or is this just a smaller division with lots of resources? Can't really figure that out with what I'm watching.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: PatrickKn]
#23444968 - 07/15/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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State media TRT has been bombed
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
#23444982 - 07/15/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is really confusing.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods] 2
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Why kill Erdogan?
Exile him. Or if you have legitimate war crime beef, try him in the Hague, and THEN exile/imprison him.
You know why they kill these leaders so swiftly? Because they dont want guys like Erdogan spilling secrets (like that the West is funnelling arms to ISIS through Turkey into Syria).
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445022 - 07/15/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dunno if this has been posted, its a stream of CNN turkey's empty newsroom:
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Apparently they fled or something? I'm not entirely sure, found the link on 420chan.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: propensity]
#23445035 - 07/15/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The military took over the studio
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: propensity]
#23445038 - 07/15/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ex-CIA director Woolsey just said there is a rumor going around Turkey that since the coup is so disorganized and sloppily executed that it might be a plot by Erdogan to give him the OK to "crack down".
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: mycosis]
#23445055 - 07/15/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead] 1
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half a world away.. fucks to give. zero. ...
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: mycosis]
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mycosis said: Ex-CIA director Woolsey just said there is a rumor going around Turkey that since the coup is so disorganized and sloppily executed that it might be a plot by Erdogan to give him the OK to "crack down".
I dont see it.
It makes him look vulnerable if anything.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
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If erdogan survives turkey will become another Islamic state
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: koods]
#23445190 - 07/15/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How so?
A coup attempt in favor of a secular government will certainly not embolden him, nor gain him popularity, regardless of the outcome.
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445285 - 07/15/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: How so?
A coup attempt in favor of a secular government will certainly not embolden him, nor gain him popularity, regardless of the outcome.
He's already using the incident very vocally as an excuse to purge the military
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: mycosis]
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mycosis said: Ex-CIA director Woolsey just said there is a rumor going around Turkey that since the coup is so disorganized and sloppily executed that it might be a plot by Erdogan to give him the OK to "crack down".
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
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It seems silly now that Europe was actually thinking of letting turkey join Europe. I think is sad that turkey, a country that was suppose to be secular, is being turned Islamist because of its president. It seems the coup is not going to work now.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: ShiVersblood]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Plain]
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Plain]
#23445831 - 07/16/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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But it will make the president paranoid as shit and make him go on a stalin-style rampage inside his govt
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
#23445897 - 07/16/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope gold and/or silver rally again.
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Stealth1Vampire said: It seems silly now that Europe was actually thinking of letting turkey join Europe. I think is sad that turkey, a country that was suppose to be secular, is being turned Islamist because of its president. It seems the coup is not going to work now.
I don't think there is any separation between religion (Islam) and state in Turkey any more. Says a lot about the Muslim population there cheering Erdogan in Istanbul this morning, after the coup was declared as failed. They clearly have no time for their own human rights, freedoms, or democracy. Welcome to Islam!
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Bubbles85]
#23446024 - 07/16/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Turkish President Erdogan appears in Istanbul to denounce army coup attempt
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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has flown in to Istanbul, after an army group said it took over the country.
He was seen surrounded by cheering supporters, saying in a live TV speech that the coup attempt was an "act of treason" and the army must be cleansed.
Sixty people died during overnight clashes, many of them civilians, and 754 soldiers were arrested, officials said.
Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said the situation was largely under control.
He has ordered the military to shoot down aircraft being used by coup plotters.
Earlier, one of the helicopters being flown by forces involved in the coup attempt was shot down over the capital Ankara.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Bubbles85]
#23446025 - 07/16/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Turkey has gone full-blown islamist. In the past, military coups in Turkey were generally successful in removing power hungry dictators. Not this time.
Turkey will continue supporting Daesh and continue supporting the other radical islamist terrorists in Syria. And Erdoghan has the support of a large amount of his population to do this.
His people are so arrogant, they cheer as a power-hungry, Daesh-supporting dictator takes over their country, and commits all sorts of brutal atrocities and warcrimes.
Turkish soldiers who supported the coup are being beheaded in the streets, Daesh-style, by Erdoghan's islamist supporters.
Very, very sad.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: chopstick]
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chopstick said: Turkey has gone full-blown islamist. In the past, military coups in Turkey were generally successful in removing power hungry dictators. Not this time.
Turkey will continue supporting Daesh and continue supporting the other radical islamist terrorists in Syria. And Erdoghan has the support of a large amount of his population to do this.
His people are so arrogant, they cheer as a power-hungry, Daesh-supporting dictator takes over their country, and commits all sorts of brutal atrocities and warcrimes.
Turkish soldiers who supported the coup are being beheaded in the streets, Daesh-style, by Erdoghan's islamist supporters.
Very, very sad.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: mycosis]
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Looks like the coup failed.
Tons of video of citizens and police beating the everloving shit out of these soldiers.
The soldiers on the bridges have surrendered, the soldiers at media outlets have surrendered.
The soldiers holding the airports surrendered. The Top general in the country was held hostage but released and his hostage takers arrested.
Parliament is holding a mid day session despite being bombed a few hours ago.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Plain]
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The coup was probably a plot by the government to take down anyone who opposes them and to appear stronger as a community. Sad to see just how brainwashed the people of Turkey really are. Literally all it took was their ISIS supporting president doing a facetime chat saying to the people go fight in the streets against the coup. Prior to that, the streets were empty aside from police and the coup.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: lood_dood]
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I'm sure she's fine now lol.
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Shroomopotamus said: The coup was probably a plot by the government to take down anyone who opposes them and to appear stronger as a community. Sad to see just how brainwashed the people of Turkey really are. Literally all it took was their ISIS supporting president doing a facetime chat saying to the people go fight in the streets against the coup. Prior to that, the streets were empty aside from police and the coup.
Yeahhh I donno about that, I think a lot of people seriously want him removed.
And the people who died and were arrested in this are probably going to face extreme punishment.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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why did the military surrender so easily and so fast if they are just going to be executed for treason?
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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I highly doubt military generals were willing to attack the capitol city on an order, knowing that there would be punishments for doing so. This seems like a real coup attempt, not a government construction.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: ShiVersblood]
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Probably because they didn't want to slaughter their own people.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: chopstick]
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chopstick said: His people are so arrogant, they cheer as a power-hungry, Daesh-supporting dictator takes over their country, and commits all sorts of brutal atrocities and warcrimes
if that's what the people want then why shouldnt they have it
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I don't think they do rly though, I think the supporters are just much more emboldened than the opposition. After all they have the dictator-god on their side. Isn't it usually like that?
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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I'm surprised the coup failed, the vast majority of Muslims don't support Isis or sharia or Muslim extremists, yet they are clearly supporting a regime that does, just doesn't make any sense
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Lots of videos of dead soldiers in liveleak. Seems like a legit coup attempt
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it's a false flag to convince congress to let the US invade Turkey so the world supply of Turkish Delights and Snow Mobiles is not jeopardized
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: mycosis]
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Meanwhile a couple military armories that were "left unattended" were "robbed".
No doubt an influx of Turkish weapons will be found on the dead bodies of Isis fighters in the next few months.
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Turkey has arrested 6,000 people after a failed coup, with President Erdogan vowing to purge state bodies of the "virus" that caused the revolt.
Mr Erdogan's top military aide Col Ali Yazici is among those now in custody.
The overall death toll for the weekend violence has risen to 290, the foreign ministry said. More than 100 of those were participating in the coup.
Security forces are reported to have met resistance from some coup plotters who were being arrested.
Warning shots were fired at Istanbul's second largest airport, and also at a military base in central Konya province, unnamed officials said.
"We will continue to cleanse the virus from all state institutions, because this virus has spread. Unfortunately like a cancer, this virus has enveloped the state," Recep Tayyip Erdogan told mourners at a funeral in Istanbul for victims of the coup.
Mr Erdogan broke down in tears while speaking at the funeral of a close political ally, his campaign manager Erol Olcak, and his teenage son. He said he would take the country forward in "unity and solidarity".
The president repeated an accusation that cleric Fethullah Gulen was behind the plot, and called for him to be extradited from the US. Mr Gulen strongly denies any involvement.
Emotions are running high as funerals for those killed during the coup plot are held. President Erdogan was among those mourning in Istanbul for the brother of one of his closest advisers.
"My glorious nation has given the best response to the coup plotters," Mr Erdogan said in a televised speech frequently interrupted by chants of "God is Great!" Whenever he made a reference to Fethullah Gulen, the roar of boos would come from the crowd.
Turkey has been through a dramatic 48 hours, on a scale even this country - with a turbulent past of three previous coups and a further two military interventions - had never seen before. And it is not totally over yet.
As more than 6,000 have been detained and the expectation that numbers could rise further, one Twitter user commented "this is an opportunity for the governing party to cleanse out all opposition to the presidential system".
Mr Erdogan's critics wonder if he could he make use of the latest events as leverage to push harder for a constitutional change that would further enhance his powers.
line People are rallying in cities including Istanbul and Ankara, to show support for the government.
Mr Erdogan told a crowd that Turkey would consider reinstating the death penalty. He said: "In democracies, decisions are made based on what the people say. I think our government will speak with the opposition and come to a decision.
"We cannot delay this anymore because in this country, those who launch a coup will have to pay the price for it."
Capital punishment was abolished in 2004 as part of Turkey's bid to join the European Union. Nobody has been executed in the country since 1984.
Among the latest arrests to be reported was the commander of Incirlik air base in the south used by US-led coalition jets for raids against the so-called Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria. Unnamed officials said Gen Bekir Ercan Van and 10 other soldiers had been detained for their role in the coup.
Also on Sunday, more than 50 senior soldiers were detained in the western province of Denizli, including the garrison commander.
Those arrested on Saturday were reported to include Gen Erdal Ozturk, commander of the Third Army; Gen Adem Huduti, commander of the Second Army; and Akin Ozturk, the former Chief of Air Staff.
One of Turkey's most senior judges, Alparslan Altan, has also been taken into custody
President Erdogan has called on the US to extradite Fethullah Gulen, 75, who heads the popular Hizmet movement and is said to count military chiefs and mid-level bureaucrats among his followers.
Once allies, Mr Erdogan has long accused Mr Gulen and his supporters of plotting against him.
US Secretary of State John Kerry said of any extradition, that Turkey should "present us with any legitimate evidence that withstands scrutiny".
Mr Gulen has denied any involvement in the coup. He has been in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania for the past 15 years, and said: "I don't even know who my followers [in Turkey] are." He suggested Mr Erdogan may have staged the attempted coup himself in an attempt to tighten his grip on power.
Mr Kerry strongly rebuked a Turkish minister who suggested Washington was behind the coup. He said "utterly false" insinuations were "harmful to our bilateral relations".
US President Barack Obama has joined other world leaders in calling for all parties in Turkey to "act within the rule of law".
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Speaking of weapons showing up in weird places...did anyone else hear about one of the guns used in the Paris attacks being linked to weapons sold by the US government in the Fast and Furious operation?
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Someone just told me about this today. It's a shame all those innocent people will be hurt because a dictator won't stand down.
I have a bizarre suggestion...let's all get together and take back what is rightfully ours! COME ON FELLOW SHROOMERS!
WHO'S WITH ME? 
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I have a bizarre suggestion...let's all get together and take back what is rightfully ours! COME ON FELLOW SHROOMERS!
WHO'S WITH ME? 

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That's a gay couple that adopted an African refugee.
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Nice try
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The world, each continent, country, state and city and town.
Take it back.
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Black president, gay marriage accepted, atheism on the rise, muslim migration, hispanic population increasing, black lives matter, white people no longer the population majority..
A coincidence white people are just now rallying behind slogans like "take our country back?"
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I don't give a shit about any of that, I just want Cascadia seperate from the rest of the devolving nation 

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The Ecstatic said: Black president, gay marriage accepted, atheism on the rise, muslim migration, hispanic population increasing, black lives matter, white people no longer the population majority..
A coincidence white people are just now rallying behind slogans like "take our country back?"
A coincidence of what made the US into the superpower it is? No. Why ruin a proven winning formula? Do you really think flooding the US/EU with third world people is going to maintain that status quo? No, we will just turn into 2nd world status as people like yourself can celebrate "cultural diversity" as we go backwards.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: I don't give a shit about any of that, I just want Cascadia seperate from the rest of the devolving nation 

Viva las junglistas
hallelujah motherfucker who needs canada if I can be part of Cascadia
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: Ezuma]
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Merkel tells Erdogan death penalty not compatible with EU membership http://in.reuters.com/article/turkey-security-germany-idINKCN0ZY1B5
Not that they'd ever get in anyway...
Democracy is like a train, he said; you get off once you have reached your destination. Education is another field in which the party’s ideological bent is increasingly evident. As mayor of Istanbul, Mr Erdogan once said he would like every state school to become an imam hatip, a vocational high school with an emphasis on religious training. When such schools first opened in the 1950s, the idea was to supply mosques with preachers. When the AK party took power, they accounted for barely 2% of Turkey’s students. Following a series of reforms, that proportion has risen fivefold, to more than 1m students. Some 1,500 non-religious schools have been converted to imam hatips. Thanks to a well-endowed charity run by Mr Erdogan’s son, these schools are often better equipped than ordinary state ones. Some parents now find they have no choice.
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The Ecstatic said: Black president, gay marriage accepted, atheism on the rise, muslim migration, hispanic population increasing, black lives matter, white people no longer the population majority..
A coincidence white people are just now rallying behind slogans like "take our country back?"
A coincidence of what made the US into the superpower it is? No. Why ruin a proven winning formula? Do you really think flooding the US/EU with third world people is going to maintain that status quo? No, we will just turn into 2nd world status as people like yourself can celebrate "cultural diversity" as we go backwards.
Weird how 100 years ago unskilled immigrants were what made our nation the great melting pot it is.
What changed?
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
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In the case of Mexicans I guess people perceive they don't come here to become a part of the society - they come to make money and send it home.
Whether or not that's entirely true, or only partially I'm not sure.
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The fact that you give credence to the idea that it might be "entirely true" says a lot.
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The Ecstatic said:
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The Ecstatic said: Black president, gay marriage accepted, atheism on the rise, muslim migration, hispanic population increasing, black lives matter, white people no longer the population majority..
A coincidence white people are just now rallying behind slogans like "take our country back?"
A coincidence of what made the US into the superpower it is? No. Why ruin a proven winning formula? Do you really think flooding the US/EU with third world people is going to maintain that status quo? No, we will just turn into 2nd world status as people like yourself can celebrate "cultural diversity" as we go backwards.
Weird how 100 years ago unskilled immigrants were what made our nation the great melting pot it is.
What changed?
The US isn't "the great melting pot" that you make it out to be, bringing in immigrants from the same region, with the same religion, with the same values, with the same genetics isn't such a "melting pot".
"What changed?"
Bringing in unskilled third world people into an advanced economy that already has a surplus of labor that is mandated to provide social services for everyone inside of the country. That's what changed!
The US needed the immigrants of 100 years ago, today we do NOT need hardly any immigrants for any reason.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: The fact that you give credence to the idea that it might be "entirely true" says a lot.
i've known/worked with quite a few Vietnamese people who came to this country only for education and work, many of them leaving their wives/families. They would send back as much of their paycheck as they could while maintaining a barely-above impoverished lifestyle in the US.
granted, they were paying taxes, and then paying fees to transfer the money to Vietnam.
that being said, what's true in some situations is certainly not true in all situations
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Just to reiterate what I've been saying for years, and to get the thread back on topic:
Fuck Turkey.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: The fact that you give credence to the idea that it might be "entirely true" says a lot.
Well I know for a fact it literally isn't I suppose
But is it 60% true? 80%?
At certain statistical point it for most intensive purposes is 'entirely true'
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Entirely would somewhere approaching the entirety.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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Intents and purposes*
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I have intensive purposes!
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Yeah, illegals don't send any money home, it's all spent here paying taxes and paying for goods and services that "make our economy stronger!" 
http://immigrationreform.com/2014/10/29/illegal-immigrants-send-home-50-billion-annually-but-cost-taxpayers-more-than-113-billion/
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http://immigrationreform.com/2014/10/29/illegal-immigrants-send-home-50-billion-annually-but-cost-taxpayers-more-than-113-billion/
Sure, when you milk the taxpayer dry there's plenty of money to send to Mexico, that wall is getting higher everyday.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: qman]
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I hope he's aware you have to build it 40 feet underground too
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Sophistic Radiance said: Just to reiterate what I've been saying for years, and to get the thread back on topic:
Fuck Turkey.
Isn't the attempted armed overthrow of a democratically elected government considered treason?
The penalty for treason is death. Off with their heads!
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: LobsterSauce]
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Goin' full stalin on their asses 
The question is, how much longer will they remain in NATO? Obviously EU integration is very far out the door right now.
And once they aren't part of NATO how soon until Russia starts to prod deeper at their ancient rival? The US may retain support of them akin to saudi - but I imagine being liable to defend them in event of their own provocations is unacceptable.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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based on the fallout and how many people have been arrested/displaced from jobs, it seems more and more likely this was a staged event
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It's politically convenient for cleansing the government of rivals, but I can't imagine why those involved would put themselves in the position to stage it, knowing the ramifications it would hold for them in the end. All the officers and even foot soldiers complicit in staging it would have needed a motivating factor to do so, and I just don't see it.
Granted, it's weird how ineffective it was in the end. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's helpful for Erdogan's party to have staged a coup offensive. It divides the people, sure. But also opens the door for more protests, motivated lone assassins and crumbling international relations. It's helps his case as much as hurts it.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: PatrickKn]
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you make some good points, as well
this could also be the long-con. high payout, new opportunities. you can't have everyone involved already out of prison, otherwise it would be more suspect.
it's not uncommon, within organizations, for people to take the fall for a share of the profits or have security for loved ones
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: PatrickKn]
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He might have smelled it coming and got ready for their first move before pulling the trigger.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: The question is, how much longer will they remain in NATO? Obviously EU integration is very far out the door right now.
so the EU wanted to bring ISIS sympathizers into the union which would open the borders to all the other nations for unrestricted travel and all turkey had to do was open their borders to ISIS
but the UK is racist because they wanted no part of that shit
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so the EU wanted to bring ISIS sympathizers into the union which would open the borders to all the other nations for unrestricted travel and all turkey had to do was open their borders to ISIS
but the UK is racist because they wanted no part of that shit
Negotiations were started on 3 October 2005[6] and out of 35 Chapters necessary to complete the accession process, 15 have been opened and 1 has been closed.[7] The membership bid has become a major controversy of the ongoing enlargement of the European Union.[8]
The EU has also been engaged in a visa liberalisation dialogue with Turkey including a "Roadmap towards the visa-free regime".[9] Provided Turkey meets the final five conditions imposed by the EU, it will be granted visa free travel to the Schengen Area.[10]
Current major opponents of Turkey's accession are Germany (though the migrant crisis has resulted in compromises) and EUC president Jean-Claude Juncker. France supports it[citation needed] and so too did the United Kingdom, despite the UK's then-Prime Minister, David Cameron, suggesting otherwise in 2016.[11] Both the European S&D and the European People's Party are against Turkey's membership. Outside the EU, the United States has long been one of the primary supporters of Turkey's membership.[citation needed]
We'll be waiting quite some time before anything like that happens.
Erdogan needs to get swoggled first and order restored before their application can be considered.
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Re: Ongoing Millitary Coup in Turkey [Re: LobsterSauce]
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LobsterSauce said: Erdogan needs to get swoggled first and order restored before their application can be considered.
so once order is restored the EU will allow unfettered access to the rest of europe for the purposes of terrorism and rape from all of those ISIS militants receiving turkish passports
good to know
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so once order is restored the EU will allow unfettered access to the rest of europe for the purposes of terrorism and rape from all of those ISIS militants receiving turkish passports
good to know
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If we are both still here when Turkey get full EU membership, then I'll buy you a coke.
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