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[Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD
    #23444102 - 07/15/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everyone, so things got in between me and my friend, we were supposed to try lsd for the first time today. He backed out, and I went home with it. I told my mom about it, as we're very open about things in my family, and she was in shock, she wanted med to tell my dad, to see what he says about it.

I'm 19 BTW.

My dad has tried basically most known drugs out there throughout his life, because he wanted to try everything once. He did LSD when he was 25, and shrooms when he were 32, and told me that he knows he cannot make me choose, but he just thinks I'm way too young, and I definitely should wait some years. I just don't want to, because I want to try this out now...

If I take the lsd and flush it out in the toilet, he said he will give me a parachute jump, to challenge my mind and body in another way.

Do you think 19 is too young? I feel like I'm ready, and I want to try it, but I do get his point, I just don't feel the same way as he does.

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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23444115 - 07/15/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You made another post for this?

So....your options are to flush down the acid and take a parachute jump instead...or take the acid?

And you want help with this...?

You already showed your mom the benefits of acid, so I would assume you've already tried to show your dad the benefits....so you're trying to somehow twist his brain into thinking you're old enough to take it? or?

Like I said in your first post, maybe you shouldn't do it at your parents house when they don't want you to?


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23444118 - 07/15/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I started experimenting with Ayahuasca when i was 22. I don't think 19 is too young, if you feel like you wanna do it, do it.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Sabnock]
    #23444125 - 07/15/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think he's too young either. But his thing is he's trying to do a full trip at his parents house, while they're there, and they don't like the idea.

I'm not saying to get rid of the acid and not to do it, I'm just saying find a better place at a better time instead of being impatient and just feeling like it's such a good idea to trip on acid for the first time around your parents.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #23444146 - 07/15/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's hard to put a set number on how old someone should be before they try any drugs. I would say drugs are best reserved for when your brain is fully developed, and that's just a base requirement. Some people are just too immature to really responsibly use them even after that stage. With that said, I feel like 19 would be a fine age for me personally, which really was only a few years ago, but I first tried shrooms at 13..and I think I turned out fine, so :shrug:


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23444170 - 07/15/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's some interesting options. For me I would jump out of a plane if given the chance. I've had lots of people offer me acid. Never had anyone offer to take me parachuting. I did however take my first acid at 18.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23444190 - 07/15/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't worry you are not too young and really? A parachute jump? Tell him in the most respectful way to fuck off.

How the hell is he gonna replace consciousness expansion with a damn chute jump? Sounds like they have an immature and unrealistic attitude about it.

Also I know people who are open with their families about stuff like this and even people who's parents are fine with them experimenting with psychedelics but they don't go and fucking tell them before they do it. Everyone I know who was open with their parents about psychedelics and shared with them everything still didn't tell them about taking acid or shrooms until AFTER THEY TOOK THEM.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
    #23444194 - 07/15/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just eat it. Most people try drugs against their parents wishes. Its really not a big deal your parents are supposed to tell you not to do drugs . I know that Some people have parents who introduced them to weed but thats not the norm IME.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #23444197 - 07/15/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eminence said:
It's hard to put a set number on how old someone should be before they try any drugs. I would say drugs are best reserved for when your brain is fully developed, and that's just a base requirement.




That is completely ridiculous though. The brain keeps developing until the mid to late 20s and by that time most people have already had their fun with drugs. They've only seen real significant problems in the people who started before the age of 18.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23444228 - 07/15/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i would take the parachute jump, cause that would be incredible :awesome:

Ask your Dad what age is OK to take Acid, and ask him how long you can live in your parents house.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23444243 - 07/15/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It has more to do with your psychological state than your age, although I would not recommend getting heavy into tripping at your age. Trying it once is unlikely to cause any serious issues though, but it's not a good idea to take it around people who are against the idea of you doing it.

But don't blame your parents, like someone else said they are supposed to tell you not to do it. Reason being, if they said yeah do it and then something bad happened, they would look like bad parents.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23444248 - 07/15/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't worry you are not too young and really? A parachute jump? Tell him in the most respectful way to fuck off.

How the hell is he gonna replace consciousness expansion with a damn chute jump? Sounds like they have an immature and unrealistic attitude about it.

Also I know people who are open with their families about stuff like this and even people who's parents are fine with them experimenting with psychedelics but they don't go and fucking tell them before they do it. Everyone I know who was open with their parents about psychedelics and shared with them everything still didn't tell them about taking acid or shrooms until AFTER THEY TOOK THEM.




Actually according to Timothy Leary, the experience of being weightless/free fall you would have jumping out of a plane supposedly expands consciousness because it frees the mind from the usual constraints of gravitation and activates a higher circuit of consciousness. I have never done it so I cant speak from experience, but that was one of Leary's theories.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23444252 - 07/15/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

white people problems.
Go parachuting for free, sounds amazing
Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.
But parachuting on acid though.....


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: nssurge]
    #23444261 - 07/15/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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nssurge said:
Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.




It's not. I know that may sound like the "right" or moral thing to say in your head but it's really just a bunch of BS.
Chemicals are chemicals.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #23444262 - 07/15/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually according to Timothy Leary, the experience of being weightless/free fall you would have jumping out of a plane supposedly expands consciousness because it frees the mind from the usual constraints of gravitation and activates a higher circuit of consciousness. I have never done it so I cant speak from experience, but that was one of Leary's theories.




Hmm that is interesting. Sounds too unnatural for me though.

Psychedelics are much safer than parachuting


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23444280 - 07/15/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eminence said:
It's hard to put a set number on how old someone should be before they try any drugs. I would say drugs are best reserved for when your brain is fully developed, and that's just a base requirement.




That is completely ridiculous though. The brain keeps developing until the mid to late 20s and by that time most people have already had their fun with drugs. They've only seen real significant problems in the people who started before the age of 18.




The "right age" to do drugs isn't the same everyone, that's why I said its hard to tell someone if they're too young or not, so the best bet for a broad answer, excluding all other factors, is to wait til your brain is fully developed. I'm not saying it's wrong or bad to do it before then for everyone, I sure didn't.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #23444288 - 07/15/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There's plenty of LSD out there, but there aren't too many opportunities for parachute jumps though! Take the jump!

Besides, I don't think you should go against your parents' wishes if you're living at home. If you're living by yourself it's different, but if it's their house, you should follow their rules and suggestions.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #23444306 - 07/15/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was talking about your second sentence. I agree though that the age is different for everyone and is honestly way more dependent on your mindset than some number or age.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Matai]
    #23444341 - 07/15/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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There's plenty of LSD out there, but there aren't too many opportunities for parachute jumps though! Take the jump!

Besides, I don't think you should go against your parents' wishes if you're living at home. If you're living by yourself it's different, but if it's their house, you should follow their rules and suggestions.




this is solid

also, your first parachute jump will sure af expand your mind.  those first few seconds as you roll out at 14k feet - no other feeling quite like it.

take the jump offer and trip some other time.  besides, you need to wait on your test kit to arrive


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: LuzaW]
    #23444364 - 07/15/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just lie and say you threw the acid out then go parachuting while on the acid. Win/Win :thisisgonnabegood:


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kinshino] * 2
    #23444552 - 07/15/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Haha thanks for all the answers guys. Sorry I made the new thread, I just thought it could be beneficial and interesting for many others to read about different opinions on when to start trying psychadelics.

The drugs are flushed out, and I just ordered the parachute jump for next saturday.

I do still live at home, and this whole thing has made me and my mom realize, that it might be time for me to move out and start my life properly. The reason I haven't moved out yet, is because I own my own car, and can't afford both having my own place and car, however I have now realized, I'd rather want to move out.

In some ways I believe my dad is right as he has a lot of experience with all kinds of drugs, and basically seen his whole circle of friends dying from drugs, and when he tried it, it really messed with his head. However it sounded like he has tried some really high doses for a first time, he had full on crazy hallucinations, and couldn't tell the difference between reality and drug etc.

Anyways, this hasn't changed my opinion, and I know I will still try out LSD one day, but for now, until I get a proper setting, I will lay the thoughts about it away.

Thanks!


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23444560 - 07/15/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You just earned 5 mushrooms sir


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23444633 - 07/15/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Save it and take it later. I don't think you're too young but don't overdo it. Stat small a d just familiarize yourself with the drug. I have to admit that my trips have become far more introspective and meaningful over the years. It might just be from experience but I feel that as you mature you have more of an understanding of yourself and life which may make it easier to understand what you experience in a psychedelic trip.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23444790 - 07/15/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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nssurge said:
Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.




It's not. I know that may sound like the "right" or moral thing to say in your head but it's really just a bunch of BS.
Chemicals are chemicals.
Experiences are experiences.




Don't give me you're bullshit neuroscience.
Drugs, even the blessed serotonin agonists. Are 2D experiences in comparison to the vibrancy of life experience.
Now this isn't to say phycedelics and the expererience surrounding there use isn't valuable or any less real. It's just nothing different than things such as...Romantic relationships, deaths, travel, work ect.
The tapestry of life is rich and vibrant, enjoy it.

You're dad sounds wise, but all fathers are overprotective of their young. Do what feels right


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: nssurge] * 1
    #23444868 - 07/15/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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nssurge said:
Quote:

AuroraBorealis88 said:
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nssurge said:
Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.




It's not. I know that may sound like the "right" or moral thing to say in your head but it's really just a bunch of BS.
Chemicals are chemicals.
Experiences are experiences.




Don't give me you're bullshit neuroscience.
Drugs, even the blessed serotonin agonists. Are 2D experiences in comparison to the vibrancy of life experience.
Now this isn't to say phycedelics and the expererience surrounding there use isn't valuable or any less real. It's just nothing different than things such as...Romantic relationships, deaths, travel, work ect.
The tapestry of life is rich and vibrant, enjoy it.

You're dad sounds wise, but all fathers are overprotective of their young. Do what feels right





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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23444916 - 07/15/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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nssurge said:
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AuroraBorealis88 said:
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nssurge said:
Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.




It's not. I know that may sound like the "right" or moral thing to say in your head but it's really just a bunch of BS.
Chemicals are chemicals.
Experiences are experiences.




Don't give me you're bullshit neuroscience.
Drugs, even the blessed serotonin agonists. Are 2D experiences in comparison to the vibrancy of life experience.
Now this isn't to say phycedelics and the expererience surrounding there use isn't valuable or any less real. It's just nothing different than things such as...Romantic relationships, deaths, travel, work ect.
The tapestry of life is rich and vibrant, enjoy it.

You're dad sounds wise, but all fathers are overprotective of their young. Do what feels right





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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: nssurge]
    #23444921 - 07/15/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That meth in your avatar looks niiice :yesnod:


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #23444994 - 07/15/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, at least you're one of the few people who have open minded parents like that.

Don't lie to them and say you flushed it down the toilet. Your parents have given you the courtesy of not shielding you from the truth or different paths of life. Don't spit in their faces by lying about something like this.

I think 19 is too young to delve deep into the psychedelic experience, but go ahead and dip your toes in it. There's nothing wrong with experimentation and the only way you'll know if it's for you is if you try it. Took shrooms once when I was 16 and I knew I was hooked. I didn't dive into the ocean until I was 20, and I am now 26.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: LRG]
    #23445177 - 07/15/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I first time took acid, lost my virginity, and jumped out of an airplane.. in that order. Acid was the most profound of these but thankfully my parents were out of sight and mind.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23445312 - 07/15/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I took shrooms at age 13. Again at age 14, and 15. I didnt use psychedelics again until I was 19 and it has been semi-regular usage the last 3-4 years. I think you should be very careful but IMHO you are just fine.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: LSDollar]
    #23445556 - 07/15/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Im 30. I've been an opiate/heroin addict since 18-19.

Honestly the change in maturity that happens in that span of time is so profound that its probably imposible to explain it.

If I was face to face... I would tell my 19 year old self that Im too young fot pyschedelics. Not because of any negative experiences or anything. In fact the early trips were the best.

But I would just because Im a little bit different now than I was then. And of course, even though it was coming from ME- my 19 year old self would never listen hahaga


Thats the position your Dad is in. He's telling you that because he feels ita his duty as a parent. But I doubt he thinks he will get thru to you.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: mushpunx]
    #23445598 - 07/16/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ahh well your minds still developing at that age... but it's up to you. You will be surprised how much you mature from 19-25


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23445618 - 07/16/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In some ways I believe my dad is right as he has a lot of experience with all kinds of drugs, and basically seen his whole circle of friends dying from drugs, and when he tried it, it really messed with his head. However it sounded like he has tried some really high doses for a first time, he had full on crazy hallucinations, and couldn't tell the difference between reality and drug etc.




It's okay kid the drugs can wait. Your dad did not lose his mind and no he did not have "crazy hallucinations" to where he couldn't tell the difference between reality and the drug don't buy into that crap for one second. He obviously lied to you because he cares about you and doesn't want you taking powerful illicit drugs so good for him:thumbup:

But whatever you do don't actually believe that crap he told you about it "messing up his head", he completely made that all up I can guarantee that.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kinshino]
    #23445690 - 07/16/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Just lie and say you threw the acid out then go parachuting while on the acid. Win/Win :thisisgonnabegood:




Seriously??

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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Jeff Vader]
    #23445993 - 07/16/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Just lie and say you threw the acid out then go parachuting while on the acid. Win/Win :thisisgonnabegood:




Seriously??

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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23446070 - 07/16/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Here's my advice. Stop being so open with your parents about drugs. It's very clear to me that your mum and dad aren't that cool or relaxed with it.

Prohibition in general is the problem with this as it creates a moral obligation to your parents. It puts the "This is wrong" mentality in the back of your parents minds and it will always be there no matter what happens.

This doesn't apply to every parent of course but it does with yours from what I've read (your mums "shock" and dads "reluctance").

Find a safe environment perhaps with a close friend and do it there. Don't tell them about it.

I had a recent argument with my mum about LSD and I'm a 29 yr old man. My mum knows I've done every drug and been a heroin addict and even with all this she still come out with some stupid crazy bullshit about how I shouldn't have introduced a friend to it (21 yrs old).

I told her it was a nice experience for my friend and we had a good time but she just kept on coming out with nonsense. When I told her we went outside for a walk around nature and enjoyed the beauty of it her response was "Oh but you're not normal, people can tell your on it". It was just utter nonsense and bullshit. We were just walking with my dog you know. Nothing unusual.

It's funny cos she wouldn't have batted an eye lid if I told her we'd drunk ten pints of beer and gone outside...imagine the actual carnage?

It's just ignorance caused by prohibition and mums and dads being parents.

Providing you do have LSD it's actually ironic your dad wants you to do something that carries an actual risk of death as opposed to something that doesn't.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kinshino]
    #23446327 - 07/16/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Jeff Vader said:
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Just lie and say you threw the acid out then go parachuting while on the acid. Win/Win :thisisgonnabegood:




Seriously??

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I was joking... Are you serious?




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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Jeff Vader]
    #23446434 - 07/16/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't do acid that's terrible!
Let's go jump out of a plane where people actually die!

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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: YeOlde]
    #23446454 - 07/16/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Providing you do have LSD it's actually ironic your dad wants you to do something that carries an actual risk of death as opposed to something that doesn't.




Exactly. His dad wants him to do something that's actually risky. Parachuting is way more dangerous than acid even if you're just a kid.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23446502 - 07/16/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

When I was in my late teens, living at home, I kept my parents in the dark. As far as they knew, I was clean. I got caught with weed one time, so they knew about that - but had no clue that I was constantly getting high and tripping in my room. They knew nothing about my private life. I was unofficially engaged to my girlfriend and my parents had never even met her.

I kept my private life private because I knew what they would say and I didn't want to hear it. IMO, that's part of growing up. You have to manage your own affairs. As you get older your personal life should not be open to debate with your mom and dad - unless you really want it that way.

My parents were in mild shock when, in my mid-40's, I confessed to all the stuff that went on in my room. But it was very liberating.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 3
    #23446503 - 07/16/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you are living at home, you have to have better sense of boundaries and personal privacy.

personally I do not think jumping out of a plane is that good an idea, but it's your family and your space, and I want the acid if you are throwing it away.

finishing school is most important, and getting out of the house comes after that, or before if it flows.

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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23446515 - 07/16/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So basically OP you fucked up by telling your parents but it doesn't matter anymore because it's already too late and who knows maybe it was meant to be.
However that was a major mistake mentioning that to them. Of course they're gonna say no, it's fucking Acid after all..

Even if they are "open" about these things (which they don't seem to very much be) you don't just go and say you're gonna take acid. Like I said earlier even people who I know who were open with their parents never told them about acid or DMT or whatever until after they did it. You're telling them beforehand which makes them feel like they have an obligation to steer you away from the acid because that would tehcniqually be more "responsible". And the reason I'm telling you all this isn't just for the acid but just for the sake of handling things a little bit differently from now on when you engage your parents about drugs. Telling people really anyone that you're "going to take acid" not "I have taken acid" is a little off putting in itself. Even just telling people you're gonna try shrooms in the near future will warrant a few odd reactions and weird looks easily.

Also why is it that you want to take acid anyways? Is that what you have the best connection for? If not then I would honestly suggest shrooms but w/e.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23450614 - 07/17/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's nice to read all these comments, hearing about other peoples stories.

Well, things has "settled" down, and my mom has went from shock to being angry at me for telling, and that pissed me off, here's the reason why:
My big bro had been smoking weed for around 3-4 years without my mom knowing, and my mom HATES weed, she is disgusted by anything related to weed, then one day, the only reason she found out, was because my big bros friends dad, which they smoked with occasionally, told her in the grocery store like it was nothing, because he thought my mom already knew. Well she didn't, and I've never seen her so dissapointed and abandoned before, because my big bro kept it from her.
Since then, my mom told me she wanted to know when I tried smoking weed for the first time, and I assumed this went with everything, so that's why I told her about the LSD.
I do see now that I shouldn't have done it, however I'm getting a free parachute jump (lol), and we have come to the conclusion, that it's time for me to move out. I want to live my own life, without the boundaries of my mom, and not just because I want to try LSD, I just want to feel like a grownup at last.

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So basically OP you fucked up by telling your parents but it doesn't matter anymore because it's already too late and who knows maybe it was meant to be.
However that was a major mistake mentioning that to them. Of course they're gonna say no, it's fucking Acid after all..

Even if they are "open" about these things (which they don't seem to very much be) you don't just go and say you're gonna take acid. Like I said earlier even people who I know who were open with their parents never told them about acid or DMT or whatever until after they did it. You're telling them beforehand which makes them feel like they have an obligation to steer you away from the acid because that would tehcniqually be more "responsible". And the reason I'm telling you all this isn't just for the acid but just for the sake of handling things a little bit differently from now on when you engage your parents about drugs. Telling people really anyone that you're "going to take acid" not "I have taken acid" is a little off putting in itself. Even just telling people you're gonna try shrooms in the near future will warrant a few odd reactions and weird looks easily.

Also why is it that you want to take acid anyways? Is that what you have the best connection for? If not then I would honestly suggest shrooms but w/e.




Yeah I realise I have been very naive of some sort, because all I know about LSD and other psychadelics, is what I have read online, even though I have spent the over 50-60 hours researching on everything, and reading about peoples experiences, I had come to the conclusion that for the most part, LSD is actually pretty acceptable, because it basically only has upsides and no actual downsides, as long as you don't have a weak psyche, and you are in a good place in your life. But ofcourse as a parent you can never think of it like that, it doesn't matter what I show my mom about facts, studies and such.

The reason I bought LSD, is because even though I tried contacting everyone I knew, no one could get shrooms sadly.

But now when I move away from home, I can just grow them myself, I've read a lot about it in here, and it seems like an interesting hobby :grin:


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23451837 - 07/18/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23453257 - 07/18/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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hopefully you can stay in school until your spelling and grammar come up.



Wow, what is your problem? English isn't my mother language, and I don't really bother spellchecking, because it doesn't matter.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23453271 - 07/18/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've seen so many people on here with WAY worse spelling than yours. Your spelling and grammar seem fine to me, I didn't even see anything wrong but then again I'm also not going through every single word trying to make sure you spell it right either.

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hopefully you can stay in school until your spelling and grammar come up.




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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23453552 - 07/18/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I started taking acid when I was 14


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: GiBBz]
    #23453582 - 07/18/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Personally op I agree with your father and think he cares about you immensely. Whichever way you choose be honest with him it sounds like you have a solid relationship and you him and yourself to keep it.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: pineninja]
    #23453609 - 07/18/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What is it exactly that you "agree" with him about? Do you just agree with the fact that he's being protective? Because I definitely agree with that but is it that or is it the content of what he's actually saying that you agree with because I didn't hear anything remotely accurate or agreeable in that sense.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23454377 - 07/18/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What is it exactly that you "agree" with him about? Do you just agree with the fact that he's being protective? Because I definitely agree with that but is it that or is it the content of what he's actually saying that you agree with because I didn't hear anything remotely accurate or agreeable in that sense.



The exact reason why my dad thinks I'm too young for LSD, is because my mind haven't yet matured, and I have not yet created my own identity. He said that you will change a lot from when you're 19 till you're 25, and you have a lot to yet discover and find out about yourself. He thought that if I did LSD, I might not mature the way I'm supposed to be.

I don't think it's true at all, but I can't say for myself, only from what I have read, that many people who tried psychedelics has turned their lives into something better, but he thinks it will turn into something worse.

He also said that because of my young age, the LSD can take over in a way, so I can't tell the difference between drug and reality, because all I can refer to are movies and games, and not real life experience, which I will first have obtained when I'm older, so I won't get any spiritual and radical insight of myself.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23454392 - 07/18/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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He also said that because of my young age, the LSD can take over in a way, so I can't tell the difference between drug and reality, because all I can refer to are movies and games, and not real life experience, which I will first have obtained when I'm older, so I won't get any spiritual and radical insight of myself.




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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23454433 - 07/18/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The exact reason why my dad thinks I'm too young for LSD, is because my mind haven't yet matured, and I have not yet created my own identity. He said that you will change a lot from when you're 19 till you're 25, and you have a lot to yet discover and find out about yourself. He thought that if I did LSD, I might not mature the way I'm supposed to be.

I don't think it's true at all, but I can't say for myself, only from what I have read, that many people who tried psychedelics has turned their lives into something better, but he thinks it will turn into something worse.

He also said that because of my young age, the LSD can take over in a way, so I can't tell the difference between drug and reality, because all I can refer to are movies and games, and not real life experience, which I will first have obtained when I'm older, so I won't get any spiritual and radical insight of myself.



Only people who are well into their thirtys or older can have this perspective only people younger would discount or laugh at it.


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    #23454831 - 07/19/16 01:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The exact reason why my dad thinks I'm too young for LSD, is because my mind haven't yet matured, and I have not yet created my own identity. He said that you will change a lot from when you're 19 till you're 25, and you have a lot to yet discover and find out about yourself. He thought that if I did LSD, I might not mature the way I'm supposed to be.

He also said that because of my young age, the LSD can take over in a way, so I can't tell the difference between drug and reality, because all I can refer to are movies and games, and not real life experience, which I will first have obtained when I'm older, so I won't get any spiritual and radical insight of myself.





LMFAO ya that's all a bunch of bs but he's just morally obligated so there's not much else for him to say.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23455120 - 07/19/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think your dad is just trying to keep you off drugs. You will be perfectly able to tell that youre on a drug and decipher the difference between the high and reality. I dont think movies and games have anything to do with your experience unless you are watching/playing games during your trip haha. At 19 you are perfectly able to think deeply about life and yourself. Take a hit when you have a chance to, like if youre able to have a whole day to yourself or with a friend. Ive had some of my strongest trips at 17/18 years old. Id like to do bigger doses again, just need to get my legs back with acid haha.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23455132 - 07/19/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

SvampebobFirkant, I don't think you made a mistake by telling your parents. It sound like even though the conversation didn't go the way you thought it would go, it's still been productive. You've learned more about your parents and they've learned more about you. Whether they agree with what you say is less important than having open communication. In the end both of you're parents will respect you more for being open and truthful with them. It's not all that common at 19 to have an open, truthful relationship with your parents.

Hopefully they will both help and support you in finding you're own place and becoming more of your own person!

The LSD scare tactics are just that. There are some great long term studies you can look up about psychedelics changing your personality if you want to research it on your own. My dad told me at 18 that if I was going to try hallucinogens to take mushrooms because LSD will change your DNA. It was some crazy scare tactic someone told him long ago and it scared him. I thanked him for the advice, but took LSD when I thoght I was ready anyway. I'm pretty sure my DNA is fine :smile:


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23456545 - 07/19/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Take it and go parachuting.

WAIT! Don't do that! Man that was a close call, you almost forgot to put your goggles on.


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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23461379 - 07/21/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just do it when they are sleeping if it's such a big deal and you want it that bad


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