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SvampebobFirkant
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kinshino] 2
#23444552 - 07/15/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha thanks for all the answers guys. Sorry I made the new thread, I just thought it could be beneficial and interesting for many others to read about different opinions on when to start trying psychadelics.
The drugs are flushed out, and I just ordered the parachute jump for next saturday.
I do still live at home, and this whole thing has made me and my mom realize, that it might be time for me to move out and start my life properly. The reason I haven't moved out yet, is because I own my own car, and can't afford both having my own place and car, however I have now realized, I'd rather want to move out.
In some ways I believe my dad is right as he has a lot of experience with all kinds of drugs, and basically seen his whole circle of friends dying from drugs, and when he tried it, it really messed with his head. However it sounded like he has tried some really high doses for a first time, he had full on crazy hallucinations, and couldn't tell the difference between reality and drug etc.
Anyways, this hasn't changed my opinion, and I know I will still try out LSD one day, but for now, until I get a proper setting, I will lay the thoughts about it away.
Thanks!
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23444633 - 07/15/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Save it and take it later. I don't think you're too young but don't overdo it. Stat small a d just familiarize yourself with the drug. I have to admit that my trips have become far more introspective and meaningful over the years. It might just be from experience but I feel that as you mature you have more of an understanding of yourself and life which may make it easier to understand what you experience in a psychedelic trip.
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nssurge said: Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.
It's not. I know that may sound like the "right" or moral thing to say in your head but it's really just a bunch of BS. Chemicals are chemicals. Experiences are experiences.
Don't give me you're bullshit neuroscience. Drugs, even the blessed serotonin agonists. Are 2D experiences in comparison to the vibrancy of life experience. Now this isn't to say phycedelics and the expererience surrounding there use isn't valuable or any less real. It's just nothing different than things such as...Romantic relationships, deaths, travel, work ect. The tapestry of life is rich and vibrant, enjoy it.
You're dad sounds wise, but all fathers are overprotective of their young. Do what feels right
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: nssurge] 1
#23444868 - 07/15/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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nssurge said: Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.
It's not. I know that may sound like the "right" or moral thing to say in your head but it's really just a bunch of BS. Chemicals are chemicals. Experiences are experiences.
Don't give me you're bullshit neuroscience. Drugs, even the blessed serotonin agonists. Are 2D experiences in comparison to the vibrancy of life experience. Now this isn't to say phycedelics and the expererience surrounding there use isn't valuable or any less real. It's just nothing different than things such as...Romantic relationships, deaths, travel, work ect. The tapestry of life is rich and vibrant, enjoy it.
You're dad sounds wise, but all fathers are overprotective of their young. Do what feels right
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23444916 - 07/15/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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nssurge said: Youl realise when your older life experiences like that are far more valuable than drugs.
It's not. I know that may sound like the "right" or moral thing to say in your head but it's really just a bunch of BS. Chemicals are chemicals. Experiences are experiences.
Don't give me you're bullshit neuroscience. Drugs, even the blessed serotonin agonists. Are 2D experiences in comparison to the vibrancy of life experience. Now this isn't to say phycedelics and the expererience surrounding there use isn't valuable or any less real. It's just nothing different than things such as...Romantic relationships, deaths, travel, work ect. The tapestry of life is rich and vibrant, enjoy it.
You're dad sounds wise, but all fathers are overprotective of their young. Do what feels right
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: nssurge]
#23444921 - 07/15/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That meth in your avatar looks niiice
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Eminence]
#23444994 - 07/15/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, at least you're one of the few people who have open minded parents like that.
Don't lie to them and say you flushed it down the toilet. Your parents have given you the courtesy of not shielding you from the truth or different paths of life. Don't spit in their faces by lying about something like this.
I think 19 is too young to delve deep into the psychedelic experience, but go ahead and dip your toes in it. There's nothing wrong with experimentation and the only way you'll know if it's for you is if you try it. Took shrooms once when I was 16 and I knew I was hooked. I didn't dive into the ocean until I was 20, and I am now 26.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: LRG]
#23445177 - 07/15/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I first time took acid, lost my virginity, and jumped out of an airplane.. in that order. Acid was the most profound of these but thankfully my parents were out of sight and mind.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: SoloTrip]
#23445312 - 07/15/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took shrooms at age 13. Again at age 14, and 15. I didnt use psychedelics again until I was 19 and it has been semi-regular usage the last 3-4 years. I think you should be very careful but IMHO you are just fine.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: LSDollar]
#23445556 - 07/15/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im 30. I've been an opiate/heroin addict since 18-19.
Honestly the change in maturity that happens in that span of time is so profound that its probably imposible to explain it.
If I was face to face... I would tell my 19 year old self that Im too young fot pyschedelics. Not because of any negative experiences or anything. In fact the early trips were the best.
But I would just because Im a little bit different now than I was then. And of course, even though it was coming from ME- my 19 year old self would never listen hahaga
Thats the position your Dad is in. He's telling you that because he feels ita his duty as a parent. But I doubt he thinks he will get thru to you.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: mushpunx]
#23445598 - 07/16/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ahh well your minds still developing at that age... but it's up to you. You will be surprised how much you mature from 19-25
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In some ways I believe my dad is right as he has a lot of experience with all kinds of drugs, and basically seen his whole circle of friends dying from drugs, and when he tried it, it really messed with his head. However it sounded like he has tried some really high doses for a first time, he had full on crazy hallucinations, and couldn't tell the difference between reality and drug etc.
It's okay kid the drugs can wait. Your dad did not lose his mind and no he did not have "crazy hallucinations" to where he couldn't tell the difference between reality and the drug don't buy into that crap for one second. He obviously lied to you because he cares about you and doesn't want you taking powerful illicit drugs so good for him
But whatever you do don't actually believe that crap he told you about it "messing up his head", he completely made that all up I can guarantee that. Anyways have fun with the chute.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kinshino]
#23445690 - 07/16/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kinshino said: Just lie and say you threw the acid out then go parachuting while on the acid. Win/Win 
Seriously??
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Jeff Vader]
#23445993 - 07/16/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kinshino said: Just lie and say you threw the acid out then go parachuting while on the acid. Win/Win 
Seriously??

I was joking... Are you serious?
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Here's my advice. Stop being so open with your parents about drugs. It's very clear to me that your mum and dad aren't that cool or relaxed with it.
Prohibition in general is the problem with this as it creates a moral obligation to your parents. It puts the "This is wrong" mentality in the back of your parents minds and it will always be there no matter what happens.
This doesn't apply to every parent of course but it does with yours from what I've read (your mums "shock" and dads "reluctance").
Find a safe environment perhaps with a close friend and do it there. Don't tell them about it.
I had a recent argument with my mum about LSD and I'm a 29 yr old man. My mum knows I've done every drug and been a heroin addict and even with all this she still come out with some stupid crazy bullshit about how I shouldn't have introduced a friend to it (21 yrs old).
I told her it was a nice experience for my friend and we had a good time but she just kept on coming out with nonsense. When I told her we went outside for a walk around nature and enjoyed the beauty of it her response was "Oh but you're not normal, people can tell your on it". It was just utter nonsense and bullshit. We were just walking with my dog you know. Nothing unusual.
It's funny cos she wouldn't have batted an eye lid if I told her we'd drunk ten pints of beer and gone outside...imagine the actual carnage?
It's just ignorance caused by prohibition and mums and dads being parents.
Providing you do have LSD it's actually ironic your dad wants you to do something that carries an actual risk of death as opposed to something that doesn't.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Kinshino]
#23446327 - 07/16/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kinshino said: Just lie and say you threw the acid out then go parachuting while on the acid. Win/Win 
Seriously??

I was joking... Are you serious?
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: Jeff Vader]
#23446434 - 07/16/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't do acid that's terrible! Let's go jump out of a plane where people actually die!
Joking, parachute jump sounds bad ass.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: YeOlde]
#23446454 - 07/16/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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YeOlde said: Providing you do have LSD it's actually ironic your dad wants you to do something that carries an actual risk of death as opposed to something that doesn't.
Exactly. His dad wants him to do something that's actually risky. Parachuting is way more dangerous than acid even if you're just a kid.
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Re: [Help!] My dad thinks I'm too young for LSD [Re: AuroraBorealis88] 1
#23446502 - 07/16/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I was in my late teens, living at home, I kept my parents in the dark. As far as they knew, I was clean. I got caught with weed one time, so they knew about that - but had no clue that I was constantly getting high and tripping in my room. They knew nothing about my private life. I was unofficially engaged to my girlfriend and my parents had never even met her.
I kept my private life private because I knew what they would say and I didn't want to hear it. IMO, that's part of growing up. You have to manage your own affairs. As you get older your personal life should not be open to debate with your mom and dad - unless you really want it that way.
My parents were in mild shock when, in my mid-40's, I confessed to all the stuff that went on in my room. But it was very liberating.
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